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Pence unloads on Trump: Former VP says
'nothing more un-American than idea that
one person could choose the president' and
he'll always be proud of certifying results
after Trump rebuked him

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Posted By: Imright, 6/25/2021 7:41:38 AM

Former Vice President Mike Pence was proud to certify the presidential election results on Jan. 6 after a deadly riot at the US Capitol, he said in his most direct and pointed departure from former President Donald Trump.Speaking to a crowd at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library on Thursday, Pence said it was his duty under the Constitution to certify the results, and while he made no direct mention of his former boss, he appeared to distance himself from Trump, who still disputes the results of the Electoral College tally. 'I will always be proud that we did our part on that tragic day

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Reply 1 - Posted by: janjan 6/25/2021 7:47:36 AM (No. 825918)
It’s probably pointless to comment on an article from a Brit tabloid.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Come And Take It 6/25/2021 7:47:51 AM (No. 825919)
Heard it all before. Just following orders, did what I had to, etc. You are weak and pathetic, Pence, but the truth is that had the states done THEIR jobs in the first place, it would have never gotten to your doorstep in the first place. The states never had to certify fraudulent election results, and never had to accept all of the ways that the state executive branches circumvented the Constitution by enacting election policies and procedures outside their own legislatures. Every one of those efforts across the US should have been tossed. Then, of course, we had every court in the US lined up to take the coward's way out by refusing to do their actual jobs instead of playing it safe. Pence, you suck, but you are not alone in that. You can go shut the hell up about your role in it. I am sick of you and wish you would have never been the pick in the first place.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: carpathia 6/25/2021 7:48:39 AM (No. 825921)
I absolutely love his name. Former. It’s so fitting, don’t you think?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Daisymay 6/25/2021 7:53:22 AM (No. 825929)
I guess he saw the writing on the Wall. He is way down, almost last, in the Poll for the Next President. He now knows he made the biggest mistake of his career. He made the decision, now he's paying for it. No, Trump voters won't vote for him, EVER! So, I guess now he will go on all the Liberal TV Stations and tell them what a great man he is because he stood up to Donald Trump. Nobody cares Mike! We've moved on!
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Reply 5 - Posted by: qr4j 6/25/2021 7:54:48 AM (No. 825931)
Feh. Feh. Feh.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 6/25/2021 7:57:21 AM (No. 825934)
Enjoy your retirement you spineless twit!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: BillW. 6/25/2021 8:01:18 AM (No. 825940)
Pence, your rebuking the very things that got Donald Trump elected president in 2016 instead an obvious criminal Clinton makes you a Deep-State DC sell out to a Marxist fraud Obiden.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Catfur27 6/25/2021 8:05:04 AM (No. 825946)
I once knew a weakling named Pence Who showed signs of some competence But on Election Day He faded away And is now known as simply "Past Tense"
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Judy W. 6/25/2021 8:08:37 AM (No. 825952)
No matter how much or how sincerely he grovels, Democrats will never like Mike Pence. And conservatives detest him. For all his Bible reading, he forgot the story of Judas Iscariot. Now he has to go hang out with Bill Kristol and and Kellyanne's husband.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: lftrn97 6/25/2021 8:16:09 AM (No. 825966)
Uhhh...apparentl;y one person did choose the president,
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Reply 11 - Posted by: 49 Ford 6/25/2021 8:22:20 AM (No. 825975)
Pence was an excellent VP pick for a man like the Donald, and he served him well for four years. I think his difference of opinion with the president is sincerely held. And I don't think he'll run for the 2024 nomination.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Historybuff 6/25/2021 8:31:14 AM (No. 825987)
But stealing an election is American? Pence’ intelligence has been greatly exaggerated.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Toby Ten Bears 6/25/2021 8:34:45 AM (No. 825990)
Thanks for your input, Judas... Now go get the rope and do the honorable thing.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Ned Scott 6/25/2021 8:35:57 AM (No. 825992)
Talk about an empty suit! Wasn’t it pathetic that Mike Pence and his wife went to see the vastly overrated and over-hyped Broadway play, “Hamilton” shortly after Donald Trump’s election in 2016? And the guy just sits there after the show, listening to the insufferable Lin Miranda lecture him and his wife about “social justice” in America. Yeah, like Lin Miranda would lecture Al Gore and his wife or Joe Biden and his wife about “social justice” in America. Mike Pence should have never gone to see such a piece of liberal bovine excrement in the first place, imo. Of course, who can forget when Vice President Mike Pence decided to go see an Indianapolis Colts game in person, and then walked out in a huff, after some of the NFL players kneeled down during the playing of the National Anthem. Like Mike Pence thought that these jerks were not going to do exactly that? Beam me up, Barry Farber!
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 6/25/2021 8:37:22 AM (No. 825994)
Mike Pants speaks of the election as if he had no part in it - - as if he were an outside observer. Hey, Mr. Jellyfish - - that was YOUR name on the ballot. You were the one who was mugged - - and now your trying to cosy up to your muggers. Mr. Pants is not only an idiot - - he is totally devoid of any dignity or class.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 6/25/2021 8:39:19 AM (No. 825995)
Correction: "You're trying - - - "
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Reply 17 - Posted by: udanja99 6/25/2021 8:42:35 AM (No. 825999)
Never trusted him. I knew what he was when, as governor of Indiana, he caved to the rainbow crowd on the state’s freedom of religion bill. First he signed it, then he unsigned it. If you’re a baker, florist, photographer etc in Indiana, don’t dare refuse to provide a service for an event which is in conflict with your religious beliefs. Your beliefs come in last and the perverts’ beliefs come in first.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Son of Grady 6/25/2021 8:56:48 AM (No. 826013)
Traitor of the People.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: czechlist 6/25/2021 9:00:09 AM (No. 826021)
Like irpt or nit, Pence was following the Constitution when he certified the election results. The States had certified and presented their resuts . Pence was not some Nazi following a tyrants illegal orders. He had no hard evidence to object to the results. I believe the election was a fraud but if the Constitution is not followed we are lost.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: JrSample 6/25/2021 9:00:43 AM (No. 826023)
OK, people. Quit with the group-think. Pence did not have an option. If the VP actually had that authority, in the 2000 election Algore would have just declared himself the winner.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 6/25/2021 9:10:08 AM (No. 826034)
Pence was OK as VP, but I never considered him presidential material. He was too aligned with the GOPe club. I don't much care what he did on January 6th, because as others have noted, the fault was with the states that certified fraudulent election results. I see Pence as too much in the Bush mold - talks conservative to get elected, then governs as globalist liberal. I wish him well - he seems like a nice enough person, but I won't vote for him.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Right Time 6/25/2021 9:25:41 AM (No. 826056)
I doubt that Pence could win an election for Dog Catcher at this point.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Submariner 6/25/2021 9:26:40 AM (No. 826057)
Pence appears to be currying favor from unworthy people.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Kate318 6/25/2021 9:32:35 AM (No. 826068)
Plastic Man shows his true colors.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Jebediah 6/25/2021 9:41:04 AM (No. 826082)
Nice man, and Trump certainly thinks only of Trump at times (a politician at heart, only hasn't learned smooth ways) but I would suspect, after seeing what went on at the election sites and afterwards, most Republicans and Independents think there was enough SIGNIFICANT fraud in the election too question it. It is, obviously, settled science and now we have Waxworks Joe, but Pence should keep this to himself and not be so proud.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: MickTurn 6/25/2021 9:48:02 AM (No. 826092)
Hey Dummy, you knowingly certified ILLEGAL votes. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
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Reply 27 - Posted by: LadyHen 6/25/2021 9:48:03 AM (No. 826093)
Mike who? (Dead to me)
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Reply 28 - Posted by: hershey 6/25/2021 9:55:19 AM (No. 826107)
Sorry that this guy is from my home state....I'd thought better of him but am sorely disappointed...
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Reply 29 - Posted by: WorkableFixative 6/25/2021 9:55:59 AM (No. 826109)
Every time I hear a Rino or a former Trump supporter spew these things about the 2020 election, I picture that their grandchildren are under threat of torture. I can imagine no other fear that would cause a fellow human to crap on this country in front of a microphone.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: MDConservative 6/25/2021 10:16:42 AM (No. 826130)
"The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted." The Constitution does not make the President of the Senate, i.e. the Vice President, arbiter of the votes. That is prescribed in the challenge procedures, which were shut down by Mitch and the boys after the "insurrection". Everyone wants "originalists" to apply the Constitution...which no one bothers to read for comprehension. Pence had no role except that above. Now, if you'd like to take up a case, start with SIX REPUBLICAN state legislatures that stood by despite the allegations of fraud, and blithely certified their state's vote for Biden. If you want to whale on foolishness, start with the Trump campaign going into Federal courts for relief after arguing the legislatures are the rulemakers and arbiters. This was a political issue to be decided by a political, not legal route, per the Constitution. At least one Federal judge (a Trump appointee, IIRC) told the Trump campaign that. But, gee, Trump and his showpony lawyers had this Kraken to unleash...
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Reply 31 - Posted by: MOAB 6/25/2021 10:21:42 AM (No. 826132)
Mike Pence will go down in history as one of the biggest traitors in the history of the United States. He is a disgrace to our party and should be harassed unmercifully every time he is seen in public.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: slipstik 6/25/2021 10:22:05 AM (No. 826134)
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Reply 33 - Posted by: J. Arthur Brown 6/25/2021 10:30:44 AM (No. 826142)
Refusing to certify an uncertain result is "choosing" someone?
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Reply 34 - Posted by: Ribicon 6/25/2021 10:37:16 AM (No. 826145)
The System loves nothing more than a Principled, Reasonable Republican™ who will see things their way when push comes to shove.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: lynngirl122 6/25/2021 10:39:01 AM (No. 826148)
Thirty pieces.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: 49 Ford 6/25/2021 10:50:35 AM (No. 826173)
Very well said, #' 19 & 30.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: larry_bud_melman 6/25/2021 10:57:33 AM (No. 826182)
I would not be surprised to find out that Pence's father was a mailman.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: ARKfamily 6/25/2021 11:00:13 AM (No. 826184)
I call bogus on #19 and #25's comments. Pence did not have to certify the elections results - please take a look at #2's comments. He caved and, as I remember it, he kind of even blamed the protestors for what took place.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: starboard 6/25/2021 11:17:09 AM (No. 826203)
#35 My thoughts exactly. Think Mark Zuckerberg. Also, I didn't care for a VP being tied to his wife's umbilical cord. It should not be allowed to have a leader of a country bring his wife everywhere with him. Grow up! Now we have another one though she's more of a caregiver/ nurse.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: BarryNo 6/25/2021 11:31:57 AM (No. 826234)
Pence, you moron. By doing what you did, you ignored the evidence testified by thousands of Americans that declared there was MASSIVE fraud. Instead of taking an actual look at the evidence, you bulled ahead. In effect, you threw away the Constitutional protections for a photo of, and SELECTED THE PRESIDENT!!! A$$!!
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Reply 41 - Posted by: DVC 6/25/2021 11:37:52 AM (No. 826244)
And, I'll be proud to never support Pence for anything ever.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: idahoskook 6/25/2021 12:12:57 PM (No. 826300)
Never liked or TRUSTED Pence and I see my instincts were right again.
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Reply 43 - Posted by: DVC 6/25/2021 12:48:07 PM (No. 826347)
If, as some suggest, the VP "has no choice"......then please explain exactly WHY the Constitution says that the VP will certify the election? Why have the step at all if it is NOT a possible 'fork in the decision tree'? If no forking is possible, it would not exist. Clearly, the INTENT of having the VP certify the election is to give ONE LAST CHANCE to stop a fraudulent election. IMO, Pence punted his crucial Constitutional role as the last safety check in the system. Pence had a choice, and he chose to support the Deep State fraudulent election. It was easy, and he hoped to get some benefits from the Deep State for supporting them.
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Reply 44 - Posted by: JrSample 6/25/2021 1:48:40 PM (No. 826418)
Article 2 Section 1 Clause 3; The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.
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Reply 45 - Posted by: cold porridge 6/25/2021 1:57:15 PM (No. 826428)
Well, one person DID choose the president idiot Pence, YOU. Instead you should have sent the whole thing back to the legislatures of the states to choose the electors after auditing the elections.
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Reply 46 - Posted by: NeverForget 6/25/2021 2:40:36 PM (No. 826470)
#8 Love it! I like Mike Pence. But when things get really tough, he lacks the backbone to stand up for what is right. He was right to believe he didn't have the authority to stop the fraud. But he was wrong not to stand for the truth that widespread and extraordinarily consequential fraud had taken place. At this point, he should just go about the rest of his life privately and in the private sector and keep his yapper shut.
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Reply 47 - Posted by: Mike22 6/25/2021 2:55:06 PM (No. 826487)
Pence was not asked to never certify the results. He was asked to wait a few days before certifying. Given the very strange events in the disputed states, that was a very reasonable request. At least five democrat run urban areas, seemingly in unison, stopped their legal vote counting operations when it appeared that Trump had won overwhelmingly. Then, in each area, an avalanche of votes for Biden appeared. Legally mandated vote checkers were missing or kept far away from the counting. Boxes of ballots appeared with questionable chains of custody. In some states, more votes than voters. Many people signing affidavits attesting to seeing strong evidence of widespread fraud. So it was requested that Pence DELAY the certification to allow for more investigation, a reasonable request in the circumstances. He was not asked to be the "one man" to decide the election. He was asked for a brief delay so some additional checking of the odd occurrences in the democrat run areas could be performed. His statement is disingenuous and reveals a that there is nothing more than a politician at his core, not the fine upstanding patriot he and his supporters are trying to portray him to be. During the eighties, the Democrats openly advocated having stealth democrats run for office as republicans in overwhelmingly republican districts. Then some of them could, at critical times, find some upstanding, moral, constitutional or whatever reason to vote with the democrats to advance the democrat agenda. Maybe that is Pence. Or maybe he simply has feet of clay. But a man of integrity? That image is not working for me.
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Reply 48 - Posted by: MDConservative 6/25/2021 3:18:34 PM (No. 826509)
#43 and a host of others - You do understand WHAT the President of the Senate is certifying, right? It is the correct count of the electoral votes cast as accepted by Congress. He has zero adjudicating power. While not a parliamentarian, I believe he has no power to unilaterally adjourn the session, either. As you may recall, there is a vote contest procedure that involves the House and Senate, where one chamber essentially protests and the other adjudicates the protest. Once those are protests are settled, the electoral votes are counted and eventually certified. Now, perhaps some of these Constitutional skolers out there can explain which state electoral votes were 1) Not certified first by their respective state legislatures, 2) Called into question upon opening according the rules, 3) Failed to win acceptance by Congress, and thus 4) did not qualify to be certified by the President of the Senate in the accurate count. Anyone? Only Arizona's vote was under protest. The Senate rejected the protest by 93-6. Arizona's electoral votes went to Biden. So, anyone expected Pence to substitute his colored judgement for the Senate's vote? Yeah...right...
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Reply 49 - Posted by: pensom2 6/25/2021 6:03:46 PM (No. 826640)
Profiles in Cowardice. I'm with #45: Pence should have refused to open envelopes and count votes on the grounds of gross irregularity, then sent the matter back to the legislatures of the states to choose the electors after auditing the elections.
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Reply 50 - Posted by: PESSIMIST 6/25/2021 6:54:52 PM (No. 826686)
OK, he's out.
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Reply 51 - Posted by: local500 6/27/2021 7:01:17 AM (No. 827755)
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Posted by Ribicon 6/26/2021 11:24:38 AM Post Reply
The World Health Organization on Friday urged fully vaccinated people to continue to wear masks, social distance and practice other Covid-19 pandemic safety measures as the highly contagious delta variant spreads rapidly across the globe. “People cannot feel safe just because they had the two doses. They still need to protect themselves,” Dr. Mariangela Simao, WHO assistant director-general for access to medicines and health products, said during a news briefing from the agency’s Geneva headquarters. “Vaccine alone won’t stop community transmission,” Simao added. “People need to continue to use masks consistently, be in ventilated spaces, hand hygiene… the physical distance, avoid crowding.
Photos Reveal That Jill Biden’s Dress
That She Was Wearing In Honor Of
“Pride Month” Is A Combination Of A
Shower Curtain And A Shopping Bag Pattern
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Posted by Black Conservative Voice 6/27/2021 8:57:58 AM Post Reply
Jill Biden joined Joe Biden in the South Court Auditorium of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building in Washington as he signed a bill to designate the National Pulse Memorial in Orlando. Joe also delivered remarks on LGBTQ+ Pride month, and the liberal media said that should explain Jill’s decision to opt for her Dolce & Gabbana patchwork dress from the Spring 2021 collection.
Hillary Clinton Spotted Out in New
York City… Looking a Little Rough
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Posted by Imright 6/26/2021 2:44:17 AM Post Reply
It looks like Hillary Clinton has been drinking a little too much Pinot Grigio. 73-year-old Hillary Clinton was spotted in New York Wednesday night…looking a little rough. Bill and Hillary met up with some friends at Fresco by Scotto in Midtown Manhattan Wednesday night. VIDEO: Last month Hillary was spotted using two hands to guzzle a giant glass of wine at a posh NYC restaurant as her hubby flirted with rocker Sting’s wife.(Photos) Trump’s greatest accomplishment was keeping Hillary Clinton out of the White House.
Read this and you won't click 'I agree' ever
again: We're being spied on by phones,
computers, TVs, cars – even the doorbells.
Worse, argues Oxford professor CARISSA
VELIZ, we're doing it to ourselves by giving
away our data
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Posted by Imright 6/26/2021 6:33:33 PM Post Reply
Most of us know that our personal data is being collected, stored and analysed thanks to our relationship with our mobile phones, computers and the internet. But are we really aware of the full extent of the privacy invasions into our daily lives?Let's start at dawn. What is the first thing you do when you wake up? You probably check your phone.By doing that, you are informing a whole host of busybodies – your smartphone manufacturer, app developers and your mobile company, as well as intelligence agencies (if they happen to be watching you) – what time you wake up,
William Barr Speaks 31 replies
Posted by Scottyboy 6/27/2021 8:27:20 AM Post Reply
Donald trump is a man consumed with grievance against people he believes have betrayed him, but few betrayals have enraged him more than what his attorney general did to him. To Trump, the unkindest cut of all was when William Barr stepped forward and declared that there had been no widespread fraud in the 2020 election, just as the president was trying to overturn Joe Biden’s victory by claiming that the election had been stolen.
Dem Rep. Green: CRT ‘Just About Telling
the Truth’ and History ‘That We Don’t Teach
in our Schools’
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Posted by Imright 6/26/2021 5:40:57 AM Post Reply
On Friday’s broadcast of C-SPAN’s “Washington Journal,” Rep. Al Green (D-TX) said that Critical Race Theory “is just about telling the truth about how there is still systemic racism in this country today and that we have to deal with it and how it impacts the lives of people.”Green stated, “Critical Race is about the side of history that we’ve not made known to the public, that we don’t teach in our schools. Slaves were not happy people. We should not in any way glamorize slavery. We shouldn’t sanitize it. We have to tell the truth about what happened in 1619 and thereafter. That’s what it’s all about.
General Insists Military’s Not Woke,
Just Wants to Study ‘White Rage’
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Posted by Black Conservative Voice 6/27/2021 5:30:01 AM Post Reply
After claiming to be “personally” offended over accusations the drag queen-loving U.S. military is woke, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army Gen. Mark Milley said, “I want to understand white rage, and I’m white.” Oh, okay, because that’s not woke at all. This happened during congressional testimony on Wednesday. Then he added this bone-chilling explanation: “What is it that caused thousands of people to assault this building and try to overturn the Constitution of the United States of America?” The implication being it was “white rage.”
Breaking Update: History Made As Final
Arizona Ballot Inspections Completed–
Huge Preliminary Report Expected Monday
When True Number of Ballot Totals
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Posted by Imright 6/26/2021 2:51:33 AM Post Reply
The Arizona Audit officially completed both the hand count and paper evaluation inspections on Friday.The audit workers will now vacate Veterans Memorial Coliseum and prepare to deliver a report to the Arizona Senate.The Gateway Pundit reported earlier that this was taking place but it was made official by a tweet from @ArizonaAudit. (Snip) Earlier this afternoon, volunteers slammed a box closed and cheered in celebration after the final ballots were inspected. TGP reported that the results will be released in two phases:1.) On Monday we may see a preliminary report, which details the accuracy of the number of certified ballots.
Two Black Teens Burn Mentally-Ill
White Man Alive And Kill Him –
The Media Ignores Another Hate Crime
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Posted by Black Conservative Voice 6/26/2021 2:17:29 PM Post Reply
A disturbing story emerged back in March but crucial information about the story is still ignored by the MSM. Two teens in Rochester, New York set a 53-year-old mentally ill man on fire, ultimately killing him. The Rochester teenagers who were accused of setting the 53-year-old man on fire are now facing murder charges after the victim died from his injuries. The boys — ages 14 and 16 — were initially arrested and charged with arson and assault on after allegedly pouring a flammable liquid on Steven Amenhauser and lighting him on fire in his home
What will become of the useful idiots? 28 replies
Posted by Magnante 6/26/2021 3:33:26 AM Post Reply
As the Marxist revolution oozes forward, I occasionally wonder what will happen to the useful idiots when the commies seize absolute power in this once great Republic. I believe that most AT readers are familiar with the term, but for those who need a brief refresher, a useful idiot, as defined by Wikipedia, "is a derogatory term for a person perceived as propagandizing for a cause without fully comprehending the cause's goals, and who is cynically used by the cause's leaders." In my opinion, this definition can be applied to a majority of the young, brainwashed radicals who have no idea about the true history of Marxism
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