US Catholic Bishops OK Steps Toward
Possible Rebuke of Biden
USA Today,
by
David Crary
Original Article
Posted By: Moritz55,
6/18/2021 5:12:00 PM
U.S. Catholic bishops overwhelmingly approved the drafting of a “teaching document” that many of them hope will rebuke Catholic politicians, including President Joe Biden, for receiving Communion despite their support for abortion rights.
The decision, vehemently opposed by a minority of bishops, came despite appeals from the Vatican for a more cautious and collegial approach to the divisive issue. And it raises questions of how closely the bishops will be able to cooperate with the Biden administration on issues such as immigration and racial injustice. The result of the vote — 168 in favor and 55 against — was announced Friday
I'll believe it when I see it.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Northcross 6/18/2021 5:52:50 PM (No. 819906)
Oooh! A rebuke! That will really sting! Catholic politicians are trembling at the prospect. Headline should read "US Bishops prove to all that they are impotent losers."
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
bamapreacher 6/18/2021 5:54:10 PM (No. 819909)
What ever happened to good old Catholic homilies where the priest would tell the people that they were condemning themselves for promoting sin and listing various mortal sins? I guess too many priests are cowards when it comes to talking about hellfire and damnation anymore.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
J-Dog 6/18/2021 5:54:41 PM (No. 819910)
They'd hate to get the dem fake Catholics mad at them because they need to be able to work with them on other issues. So corrupt!!!!
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
pros7767 6/18/2021 6:08:11 PM (No. 819924)
Abortion is only one of the issues that are a problem!
How about encouraging Human Trafficking enabled by his open border policies? Or the overdoses enabled by his policies? Or supporting Marxism through his policies?
Of note, the da*n Bishops should be going after Catholic Charities that are helping the cartels spread these illegals all over the country where they will become human slaves to the smugglers! What is wrong with the Catholic Church? And I'm Catholic!
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
mort 6/18/2021 6:11:15 PM (No. 819928)
I'm so tired of cowards.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Highvoltage 6/18/2021 6:11:36 PM (No. 819931)
If the Catholic Church fails to deny communion to politicians who support a woman's right to choose then can what does their other positions amount? I would say very little. Why am I as a protestant person of Christian faith denied communion at a Catholic Church?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
udanja99 6/18/2021 6:18:58 PM (No. 819936)
Oh, please. Just do it!!!! The next time Xiden stumbles up to the priest for communion, he should be loudly refused and escorted out of the building.
#7, your beliefs about the Eucharist are not the same as Catholic beliefs. If you want to receive the Eucharist in the Catholic Church, do what I did 31 years ago - sign up for RCIA, attend all of the classes, go to confession and then convert.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
jimboscott 6/18/2021 6:24:32 PM (No. 819937)
Catholicism has historically been highly politicized. Popes throughout the ages have demonstrated deeply flawed decisions and poor theology. Jesus would call many of history's popes whited sepulchers.
This is not to say there are not true Christians in the Catholic Church, but many of the teachings are clearly at odds with Biblical theology, Peter being the first 'pope' being front and center as a misreading of Jesus' words about what exactly 'this rock' really means. Hint... it's not a person. It is a revelation of truth that Jesus is the Christ that serves as the basis for the existence of the church. Simon just happened to be the first to realize this truth and as a result his name was changed to Peter. The ROCK is the fundamental statement of the deity of Jesus, not the papacy of Simon.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 6/18/2021 6:57:11 PM (No. 819965)
US Catholic Bishops should probably read the actual scriptures they assay to uphold. Someone in that bunch makes up cliches like. ''It's easier to get forgiveness than it is permission.''
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
mc squared 6/18/2021 7:33:32 PM (No. 819992)
So what? Biden is still the worst impersonator of a president. Even Obola.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Ditto1958 6/18/2021 8:05:04 PM (No. 820018)
No one has to be a Roman Catholic but anyone who does want to be a Catholic should understand that the Church teachings are not guidelines, they're not recommendations, they're not a buffet to pick and choose from. No, they're all right there in the Catechism of the Council of Trent from 1566. And they're not open to discussion or debate from the parishioners. The Catholic Church is not a democracy or even a republic. It's a basically monarchy with a Pope who rules. To me this is concerning that so many bishops our sliding with Biden. Should be zero.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
bad-hair 6/18/2021 8:08:40 PM (No. 820020)
You goes to confession.
The pedophile gives you absolution
And off to communion you go .
What could possibly go wrong ?
God forgives. does he forget ?
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Venturer 6/18/2021 8:54:39 PM (No. 820053)
He and Pelosi should be excommunicated..
By the way why are they after Biden and not Pelosi too.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
RuckusTom 6/18/2021 9:01:47 PM (No. 820061)
Let's see Swiss Guards at the doors of the churches keeping Biden and Pelosi (and quite a few others) out.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Kate318 6/18/2021 9:34:08 PM (No. 820089)
The USCCB capitulates to the Vatican that gets their marching orders from the CCP, the Party of Davos, and Satan himself.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Timber Queen 6/18/2021 11:06:04 PM (No. 820142)
Politics is an innate drive of mankind which cannot be eradicated and is present in every human grouping. Our Catholic bishops are no less politicized than leaders of other religions; from the Lutherans, Methodists and Baptists to Buddhism with a Dali Lama.
Today’s vote approved the drafting of a “teaching document” on abortion to be presented at the November meeting. (Unlike Congress, this document must be done by the appointed date.) The issue of public or any material/moral support for abortion is not limited to elected officials, but also includes the laity; a flock that has been left to decide for themselves about legal abortion for fifty years. Many good Catholics believe abortion is just one of many political issues and they have no right to limit another’s decision. They have received no contrary instruction from their pastors and bishops.
This “teaching document” is to correct that situation by informing all of the laity on the evils of abortion and that any support is a mortal sin. The drafting committee will have Archbishop Cordileone’s pastoral letter, and I’m sure the cadre of conservative bishops already have language prepared for submission. The vote to approve drafting the document was 168 to 55. Only 2/3rds are required to adopt at the November meeting, approximately 150, well under today’s yea vote. The Holy Spirit indeed guides the Catholic Church, but He still has to work with humans, so it’s slow going.
AMDG
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
formerNYer 6/18/2021 11:28:42 PM (No. 820161)
#7 Catholics believe that communion is the actually body and blood of Crist - Protestant's do not.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
MickTurn 6/18/2021 11:37:42 PM (No. 820168)
ExDiscombulate XIden! This is Excommunication along with some rather gruesome middle age Catholic 'Treatment'.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Timber Queen 6/19/2021 1:05:34 AM (No. 820209)
#9 - My comments are based on Matthew 16:13-20.
Christ asked His Chosen Twelve, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?” They replied with many examples from John the Baptist to Elijah, to other named prophets. Simon Peter said in reply, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” Jesus said to him in reply, “Blessed are you, Simon, son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it.”
Simon did not “just happen(ed) to be the first to realize this truth”. Christ calls Simon, “son of Jonah”, the prophet who saved Nineveh from destruction by fulfilling God’s command. Like Jonah, this divine revelation came to Simon by the Father Almighty, “not flesh and blood” – not by his own reasoning. It is because of this revelation from the Father that Christ says, “You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church…” Christ then gives Peter the keys to the kingdom of heaven, along with the power to bind or loose actions on earth (condemn or forgive sins.)
Peter is the ROCK upon which Christ’s Church was built. As evidenced also in the Acts of the Apostles, wherein Peter is the recognized head of the Apostles and the only one able to heal the sick with his passing shadow. Peter was also known as “papa”, father, which in Italian is “pope”.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Harlowe 6/19/2021 3:15:19 AM (No. 820233)
#9~ Correct, Peter’s confession that Jesus is the Christ is the solid foundation, the rock, upon which the Church would be built just as #20 wonderfully explains. (Matthew 16:13-20)
In Matthew 16:19, Jesus said, “I will give you (Peter) the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” In John 20:22-23, “And when he had said this, he breathed on them (the disciples) and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.’”
Indeed, Scripture reveals in Matthew 10:1 that Jesus gave the twelve apostles authority over unclean spirits, cast out demons, and heal every disease and every affliction.
The apostles performed many signs and wonders done among the people and believers even carried the sick into the streets so that, “as Peter came by at least his shadow might fall on some of them.” (Acts 5:15) God also worked “extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, so that even handkerchiefs or aprons that had touched his skin were carried away to the sick, and their diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them.” (Acts 19:11-12)
#18~ “Catholics believe that communion is the actually body and blood of Christ - Protestant's do not.” One Protestant denomination, the LCMS, “believes Scripture teaches the Lord's Supper is a precious gift of God in which Christ gives us His true BODY AND BLOOD (in a miraculous way), TOGETHER WITH THE BREAD AND WINE, for the forgiveness of our sins and the strengthening of our faith.”
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
mifla 6/19/2021 6:30:03 AM (No. 820255)
Even if they create such a document, how is it to be enforced? Politicians can just shop around for a priest that agrees with them.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Ditto1958 6/19/2021 11:11:06 AM (No. 820491)
Catholicism is not an à la cart menu to pick and choose from things that you believe or don't believe in. The Roman Catholic Church is not a democracy, it's basically a monarchy ruled by the pope. Parishioners do not debate and decide Church teachings or policies or rules. The 10 Commandments, the Nicene creed, and the catechism of the Council of Trent are all there in writing, virtually etched in stone for anyone to read. Openly practicing abortion, openly advocating for abortion, openly challenging church teachings he's not, as Joe Biden said, a personal matter. The teachings of the church, with a few rather small exceptions, have not changed for over 1000 years.
Has been Schapiro sales, faxed don't care about our feelings. We are all sinners, none of us are perfect, none of us can 100% live up to the Christ's teachings. But as Catholics, we are not supposed to openly challenge Catholicism teaches us.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
BigGeorgeTX 6/19/2021 2:46:57 PM (No. 820696)
Is there a more gutless group of individuals than woke clergy? They attained their degrees under false circumstances. To them it's not a divine calling, it's just a job.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
mifla 6/21/2021 5:30:52 AM (No. 821891)
This is what happens when the clergy worries about what the secular world thinks.
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