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Indonesia navy finds items from lost sub,
indicating it sunk

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Posted By: mean Gene, 4/24/2021 7:25:10 AM

Indonesia’s navy on Saturday said items were found from a missing submarine, indicating the vessel with 53 crew members had sank and there was no hope of finding survivors. Navy Chief Yudo Margono said rescuers found several items from the KRI Nanggala 402, which disappeared after its last reported dive Wednesday off the resort island of Bali, including parts of a torpedo straightener, a grease bottle believed to be used to oil the periscope and prayer rugs.CORRECTION*


The Chinese commies might have sunk this sub. They positively despise Muslims and want to expand into the ocean near the Natuna islands.

*Source corrected to site style.  Should be spelled out.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: philsner 4/24/2021 7:40:39 AM (No. 765430)
"Had sunk". "Journalism".
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Skinnydip 4/24/2021 7:51:42 AM (No. 765452)
What's a "torpedo straightener"?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: franq 4/24/2021 8:01:29 AM (No. 765465)
Sub technology is pretty advanced. Besides the US and England, I don't think there are other countries that can cut the mustard. Russia? Close.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: GO3 4/24/2021 8:16:32 AM (No. 765484)
France is close just as long as they get out of the habit of colliding with British subs. Russia subs? Things may have improved but I wouldn't get anywhere near those boats.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: BarryNo 4/24/2021 8:19:15 AM (No. 765485)
thinking. Was just thinking the same thing as the poster. Chinese military action. If the ship had just sunk. There shouldn't be a debri field. That indicates a severe hull breach.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: bpl40 4/24/2021 8:19:47 AM (No. 765487)
Honesty is a far bigger issue with AP than proper grammar!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Strike3 4/24/2021 8:45:12 AM (No. 765522)
Sink, sank, sunk. Nice going, AP.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Strike3 4/24/2021 8:48:03 AM (No. 765527)
The Russian subs can go a little deeper than ours but don't always return to the surface. Things change quickly in that technology though.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: BarryNo 4/24/2021 9:24:46 AM (No. 765564)
A large number of these subs are designed by nations like Germany, France and even Israel. They are high quality diesel-electrics they are perfect for coastal defense in that they are smaller and quite, when submerged than nuclear subs. Just as deadly, from a sub-hunter viewpoint. The technology is very tried and true. If one sank it was either due to human error, or enemy action. They need to take a good look at the evidence, considering China's plans for the region.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 4/24/2021 9:35:35 AM (No. 765571)
Strikes me dying in a submarine would be a real nasty way to die.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: mc squared 4/24/2021 9:50:03 AM (No. 765596)
Why do I think finding a torpedo straightener and a prayer rug not unusual?
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Rumblehog 4/24/2021 10:30:56 AM (No. 765642)
"indicating it sunk" Umm, submarines are designed to do that...
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Reply 13 - Posted by: DVC 4/24/2021 12:07:38 PM (No. 765766)
The sub was built in Germany in the late 70s, so over 40 years old. And operated by a third world crew. I won't fly on third world airlines, and sure wouldn't go in a 3rd world sub. These are WW1/WW2 technology, basically, diesel power on the surface, lead-acid batteries for submerged travel. No bad wishes for the crew, but submarines of any kind are a pretty risky business when they are brand new and run by the best American crews.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: DVC 4/24/2021 12:12:01 PM (No. 765769)
#5, the depth there is way deep enough to crush the hull if it sank below design depth. But, I wouldn't put it past the ChiComs. They take the view that they own the South China Sea, and this might just be a warning. In six months, at some 'naval conference' I wouldn't be surprised if a Chinese naval officer just mentions to an Indonesian officer that 'well, we'd hate to see any more of your subs go missing. That whole South China Sea are is a particularly dangerous place for Indonesian subs to visit." Kinda like the Mafia guy, "Nice restaurant you've got here. It'd be a shame if it burned down, cause you didn't buy our insurance."
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Reply 15 - Posted by: DVC 4/24/2021 12:42:21 PM (No. 765814)
#2, probably a fin or rudder.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: GO3 4/24/2021 1:59:36 PM (No. 765885)
A prayer rug wouldn’t be unusual. Indonesia is the world’s largest Muslim country.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Luandir 4/24/2021 3:59:54 PM (No. 765977)
The story appears to have been written by two Indonesian reporters. The language difference should have called for a more competent proofreader.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: NorthernDog 4/24/2021 4:45:28 PM (No. 766005)
They seem to have a lot of problems with transportation in that part of the world. Airplanes disappear, buses go over cliffs, boats & subs sink, and those little scooters often get pancaked.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: DVC 4/24/2021 5:42:47 PM (No. 766045)
#18, I normally drive in any country we visit, but was warned by Indian friends to "never, under any circumstances" drive in India. When questioned why, they said that the traffic was too chaotic for Americans....which I found to be baloney, as far as I am concerned, having driven a lot in Italian traffic in the late 60s and early 70s and THAT is chaotic, easily the same as in India. But the point that made me hire drivers was they said "if there is an accident, it WILL be 'the American's fault' because everyone knows that Americans are all rich, and the police will charge you and jail you until you pay for all damages and injuries" YIKES! OK, then I'll hire a driver. Fortunately, you can get a driver for the whole day for $20 with car, or could a few years ago. Probably similar in Indonesia. Much of the 3rd world is not a place for Americans to drive.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 4/24/2021 6:25:20 PM (No. 766085)
How bout if the Indonesian navy finds items from that Malaysian airliner that disappeared years back???
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