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Posted By: Magnante, 2/25/2021 9:10:53 AM

Our vaccine is experimental, and we, the people, are being herded into a mass drug trial such as the FDA has never before attempted. That is the unembellished truth. Nobody in authority wants to mention this truth. Instead, there’s a long trail of rah-rah news propaganda, about fabulous new stadium-parking-lot vaccine sites (because, what else would a parking lot at a stadium be used for these days?), numbers of doses available, and reports about the elderly in nursing homes doing a dance of joy at getting their jabs and maybe being let out of jail to see family and people other than one another.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: November Rose 2/25/2021 9:25:21 AM (No. 707749)
I came, I saw, I refused.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: rabblerouser 2/25/2021 9:26:24 AM (No. 707752)
IMHO, it is obvious that there is "something" in those vaccines that they want to get into everyone's body. And I am sure it is nothing good.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: RuckusTom 2/25/2021 9:27:06 AM (No. 707753)
Whatever happened with thalidomide?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: mindsport 2/25/2021 9:34:31 AM (No. 707763)
I had my first dose of Moderna yesterday, along with my husband and his sister. We want to get it now because the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines have the best efficacy around 95%, we don't want to be forced to take the Johnson and Johnson or Astra Zeneca which have efficacy in the 60%.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: abuela10 2/25/2021 9:36:07 AM (No. 707766)
Some scientists claim that the vaccine contains computer chips that will keep track on us
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Reply 6 - Posted by: NYBruin 2/25/2021 9:42:46 AM (No. 707773)
What hogwash!! The COVID vaccine is nor more "experimental" than the annual flu shot. I'm getting one as soon as I am eligible.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: udanja99 2/25/2021 9:54:56 AM (No. 707787)
It’s not a vaccine. If it were there would be no call to keep wearing a mask after getting it. Count me in with #1.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: chance_232 2/25/2021 9:56:30 AM (No. 707789)
Re#5 Not for a hundred bucks they don't. Even if they did, the human body would flush them out in due time. I would be more concerned with sterility as a possible side effect.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Norway 2/25/2021 9:58:03 AM (No. 707790)
It IS experimental and it's not an actual 'vaccine.' If you study this as I have, you will learn that this fake vaccine puts a new protein into every cell of your body that wasn't previously there/put there by God. And this protein stays there. In all available tests results with mRNA vaccines done with animals (mostly cats), at a later date after the mRNA vaccine series was administered and the test subjects were exposed again to the original virus, they all died. ALL DIED. Plus we don't 'what else' is in this vaccine or what the long term effects will be. Hopefully, they will be benign, but we just don't know....yet.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: cold porridge 2/25/2021 10:01:21 AM (No. 707796)
We all have our opinions, my opinion is the whole covid thing was political and so is the vaccination push. Masks scientifically do not prevent infection. Hundreds of thousands of people were listed as dying from covid to artificially push up the numbers. Hospital admit listing a death as covid gets them money. The vaccination push is a scam too. Big Pharma and those invested in it are laughing all the way to the bank. By the way, why have we had NO cases of regular flu in 2020? Idiots. Get vaxed if you are brainwashed, but not for me or mine.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Jennie C. 2/25/2021 10:02:07 AM (No. 707798)
They say we have to keep wearing masks and can't go to see grandma even afterward, so I'm wondering the same thing. What's the point? I've had my first shot, and my arm has almost stopped hurting.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 2/25/2021 10:10:49 AM (No. 707806)
I was a a physical therapy facility yesterday and since the entire staff had recently been vaccinated, I asked about side effects. EVERY ONE talked about how painful their arms were after vaccination in explicit terms and several told me to "take Advil" as a preventative. I'm in no hurry to get vaccinated. They're a new technology that was rushed to market after rather small clinical trials (approximately 60,000 people) based on computer models that predicted over 2 million deaths by now versus an almost certainly inflated actual 500,000. Many of those deaths were people with multiple serious health conditions that would likely have carried them off shortly anyway but were classified as COVID deaths because they died with COVID (as opposed to "of COVID"). Next October (when flu season ramps up) I'll consider it.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: mariboo72 2/25/2021 10:13:28 AM (No. 707809)
We are senior citizens. We did get the Pfizer vaccine. No problems other than a slightly sore arm for one day. We don't think that children should receive the vaccine and we don't think it should be mandatory for anyone. But we're old, and we have had long good lives. If we're guinea pigs, so beit. But we are sick of Dr Fauci. We are going to see and hug our grandchildren, whom we haven't seen in months.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Maggie2u 2/25/2021 10:20:52 AM (No. 707813)
We aren't getting the vaccination. We are both in our 70's and do have underlying health conditions. My husband has some serious heart conditions and we are both overweight. If the old stand-by...'my body my choice,' doesn't work we will simply tell the authorities that we cannot, in good conscience take the vaccination until every single minority in this country has had the shot or a chance to take it, if we had ours before they did, it would be racist because we would be flaunting our White privilege.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Skinnydip 2/25/2021 10:49:30 AM (No. 707845)
My wife, her 96 year old mother and I all got both doses of the Moderna vaccine with virtually NO side effects, a barely felt sore arm only. And yes I realize it's not a "vaccine" by the traditional definition. We also get flu shots every year. I know many may disagree, but I believe they they are safe and will be effective. This whole thing has become so politicized that I will listen to only my own opinion, right or wrong.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: DeepSouth 2/25/2021 10:53:27 AM (No. 707849)
I would not hire Dr Fauci to be a crossing guard at my grandchildren's school.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: LesUNo 2/25/2021 10:55:41 AM (No. 707851)
This is not a typical vaccine. To trigger an immune response, many vaccines inject a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they stimulate our cells to produce more protein which in turn boosts our immune system. Instead of developing antibodies the vaccine is designed to fool our bodies into thinking that a virus has invaded. You can still get COVID and still pass it on to others.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Heil Liberals 2/25/2021 11:05:23 AM (No. 707857)
#6 - It's damned funny that for more than twenty years there was no vaccine for any of the CV that caused dramatic symptoms that killed a few million before CV19. In fact, we were told that we were years and years away from an effective vaccine to treat the previous CV. At the outset of the CV19 the best medical minds did not expect any breakthroughs for at least 18-24 months (Dr. Often Wrong parroted this view many, many times). The methodology for the mRNA attack on virus proteins has been studied since the 1980s. It appears, from what I have read and listened to, that the current methodology being used to produce this vaccine has been known for at least two decades. So, the question is, why is this "miracle" just now being delivered. It wasn't delivered in previous pandemics. Why? Is there something about the methodology that isn't being shared with us? The simple fact that hundreds of billions of dollars are involved is no doubt a motivating force. But this is the first time in my lifetime that any, ANY vaccine has been put on the market for hundreds of millions of people without any long term studies. The polio, mumps, rubella, smallpox, measles, chickenpox, shingles and dozens of other vaccines required long study and evaluation to determine effectiveness and side effects. The current CV19 vaccines have none of that data - NONE! They cannot even tell a person for how long the vaccine is effective. The wonderful thing at this point is that we still have choice to vaccinate or not vaccinate. How long that lasts no one knows. But for now I know that I chose not to be part of the largest medical experiment in world history.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Chuzzles 2/25/2021 11:34:16 AM (No. 707902)
Could be several reasons at play here, given how depopulationist Bill Gates is involved. My guess is one of the secret ingredients is meant to 'mark' people in some way at a very basic level. Mark of the Beast level to be honest. This is all about the democrat dreams of total control over the population, no matter how many people they have to destroy to achieve that. They truly do not care right now what happens with this vaccine, or how many people could be hurt.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: vetposter 2/25/2021 11:42:43 AM (No. 707910)
This author is an idiot. This is the type of libertarian nonsense that holds conservatives in contempt by the rest of the country. I think this moron would look great on a ventilator.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: lazlototh 2/25/2021 11:54:02 AM (No. 707929)
This is utter garbage. Our drug approval process takes WAY WAY WAY too long and the approval process for Moderna was for an entire year (it was created early last year), and suddenly an anti-vaxxer thinks the current approval process is just fine. My inlaws had the virus and got treatments and will recover. I just turned 65, my wife is 64 and I have an appointment for the vaccine tomorrow. I usually agree with articles from this site. This one is irresponsible, paranoid and stupid.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: bad-hair 2/25/2021 11:59:20 AM (No. 707939)
We need a vaccine for Paranoia. Get over it. Get a shot and take off the dam fool face diaper.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: ldb51 2/25/2021 12:53:58 PM (No. 708006)
I tend to side with the sceptics on the vaccination, particularly as various officials press for low-risk people to get it (such as school children). I do think lists will be kept of vaccine-deniers to use at a later date, because...that's what unabashed authoritarians like the current crop of Dem's and their foolish fellow-travelers do. They make and keep lists, insist on papers and certificates, check your "permanent record" and social contacts whenever it suits their advantage... I have been puzzled since day one about the obsessive testing, though. If sick, get treated immediately, of course; if asymptomatic though, what is the point? A negative one day does not guarantee a negative the next. Did they expect people to spend their lives in testing lines, like so many ridiculous lemmings? Something else was underway, and I think it could be DNA cataloguing. We are in the grip of a terrible horde of demons.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: SR 2/25/2021 1:19:55 PM (No. 708035)
There are many contradictory thoughts about the vaccine this thread. I find it difficult to find studies...not opinions..describing it. Please include references to general statements about every animal dying, etc. so we can look at actual experimental design and results. Otherwise we are no different from leftists with unsubstantiated claims. I have no trust in anything official either, but I still want to understand what is actually known. A vaccine stimulates antibody production. mRNA produces spike protein which stimulates antibody production. mRNA (Pfizer)is not DNA (AstraZeneca). It is in the cytoplasm and has a short 1/2 life. Doesn't a sore arm mean the innate immune system is correctly reacting to a foreign substance? Anyone please reference answers to following questions: Is spike protein secreted or expressed on cell surface, possibly inducing a polyclonal response to cells expressing the spike? Leading to autoimmunity. Which types of cells are targeted with the mRNA injection? There cannot be enough mRNA to enter every cell in the body.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: coldborezero 2/25/2021 1:54:21 PM (No. 708067)
I don't have enough information to know if the vaccine is a good or a bad thing. My own opinion is that the reason the people in government are so adamant that we all take the vaccine is to exert their absolute CONTROL over the lives of we deplorables. They want us to be forced to take the vaccine to show us that they can force us to take the vaccine. That is it and that is all. They could not care less if we all live or die. They only care that we OBEY.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: YorkieMom 2/25/2021 2:03:38 PM (No. 708077)
Hubby and I had Covid, were coughing and weak for about two weeks, got over it, feel great now, and are not getting a vaccine.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Proud Texan 2/25/2021 3:01:43 PM (No. 708126)
I got Covid as did my dog. He shared his medicine with me and we both recovered within 36 hours. I was careful not to get too chilled down by cold weather for next couple of weeks. It's a durn shame when my dog will share his medication with me while my doctor will not offer any help at all.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: JHHolliday 2/25/2021 5:26:40 PM (No. 708202)
I trusted the vaccine or rather rolled the dice and my wife and I have now had both shots. We are in our late seventies and weighed the risks involved. It may become mandatory for international travel and you can bet the little tyrants are busily thinking up some other 'orders' to hammer us with. They will not want to give up the petty power that they relish.and lust for.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: red1066 2/25/2021 6:09:55 PM (No. 708247)
They don't need a vaccine to track people. If you have a phone, your being tracked.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: cny 2/25/2021 7:08:51 PM (No. 708303)
For those who don't trust the mRNA vaccines, how about the J&J traditional vaccine? I'm nervous about the mRNA (just because it's different, not because I know anything), and my main concern vis a vis COVID is that I don't die from it. The J&J is said to be less efficacious than the mRNA, but is better at keeping you alive. I have an appointment at Wegmans on Tuesday to get the first shot of whatever vaccine they have - either Pfizer or Moderna. Very nervous about becoming ill after the second jab (as my two colleagues did), but mostly about some long-term effect such as autoimmune problems. Sigh!!!
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Reply 31 - Posted by: anonymous 2/25/2021 7:48:32 PM (No. 708333)
I wonder if governments have done financial deals with the vaccine companies that are based on getting a certain percentage of people vaccinated.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Donna M 2/25/2021 7:52:05 PM (No. 708340)
I had COVID in the first wave that hit NY metro back in December 2019. I would rather have a funny cough, not feeling right, and a low fever than an experimental gene therapy (which is what messenger RNA is, not a vaccine) that may enhance the next infection I get or create an autoimmune disease far worse than COVID. If you have allergies, already have an autoimmune disease like lupus or arthritis, or recently had C-19, don't even consider it. Get it straight--it's not a vaccine which prevents the disease. It may mitigate symptoms but you can still get it and infect others. WHY BOTHER??? Read materials from Children's Health Defense and AAPS and get educated on the risks.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: Deborah Grannet 2/25/2021 8:30:06 PM (No. 708373)
#6, 20, 22: You are of course welcome to your opinion about the vaccine, just as you are welcome to get the vaccine if you so choose-- that's the beauty of freedom. I find, however, that casting aspersions on others ('hogwash,''vaccine for paranoia', 'author is an idiot'), does nothing to advance the conversation. The conservatives I know deal in facts, not name-calling.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: navybrat 2/25/2021 8:55:11 PM (No. 708393)
I have had both doses of the Pfizer vaccine as have other members of my family. None of us have experienced any problems. My arm was not even sore. I asked the medical personnel when we could stop wearing the masks. They said when most of the population is vaccinated and the rate of infection goes down substantially and that is not known yet. In the meantime, wear a mask when out, keep washing hands and avoid large crowds as much as possible. It took over two years to get the Spanish flu under control.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: franq 2/26/2021 6:07:45 AM (No. 708640)
Would the vaccines for smallpox, diphtheria and polio be called vaccines if they were 60% effective? And if the recipients were told they could still contract the disease in a couple years? The COVID true believer in our department was talking up the shot yesterday... asking those nearby if they had one yet. He avoided me, but if he had asked, I would have slid my glasses down my nose and given him an incredulous stare...for several reasons!
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Posted by Imright 3/8/2021 8:21:02 AM Post Reply
The Royal Family was left reeling this morning after Meghan Markle tearfully revealed that the stress of royal life made her suicidal when she was five months pregnant, claimed Archie was denied the title of prince because he is mixed-race and said Kate Middleton made her cry before she married Harry in a bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey.The couple also chose to reveal that they are having a baby girl to the tens of millions of people watching the CBS show broadcast in the US before accusing the Royal Family of racism and revealing the deep rift 'Megxit' has caused with Prince Charles and Prince William.
Meghan Markle openly
accuses the Royals
of racism
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Posted by Magnante 3/8/2021 5:26:07 AM Post Reply
I’m probably second to none in my dislike for Meghan Markle. There’s something unattractive about a mature woman marrying into the British Royal family with one of the world’s most expensive weddings, hanging out with the Queen, living in insane luxury…and then whining non-stop about the horror of her life. There’s something even less appealing when that woman accuses the Royal family of race hatred. And the problem is that, when it comes to that left-wing diva, Meghan Markle, it’s hard to believe most of what she says. After weeks of hype, CBS finally televised Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s interview with Oprah.
Watch: John Solomon Gives Stunning Update
in Durham’s ‘Russiagate’ Investigation
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Posted by Imright 3/8/2021 4:56:55 PM Post Reply
Without question, the vast majority of Americans who support former President Donald Trump were angry and frustrated throughout 2020 passed with barely a mention of then-U.S. Attorney John Durham’s criminal investigation into the FBI’s fraudulent “Russiagate” counterterrorism operation directed at his 2016 campaign.In the weeks before the November election, word got out that then-Attorney General William Barr wasn’t going to announce any indictments or even a report on Durham’s investigation because he did not want to influence the outcome.So far, in fact, the only indictment to come out of the Durham probe is that of former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith, who essentially got a slap on the wrist
Democrats renew calls to remove
J. Edgar Hoover's name from FBI building
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Posted by Ribicon 3/8/2021 2:56:29 PM Post Reply
Rep. Steve Cohen vowed to renew the push to remove former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover’s name from the bureau’s downtown Washington headquarters, according to an interview released Monday. Appearing on Yahoo! News’ Skullduggery podcast, the Tennessee Democrat said the effort is getting a fresh look after the release of a new movie highlighting the FBI’s secret program to discredit civil rights activists. The Washington Times in 2019 first reported Democrats’ bid to strip the longtime FBI director’s name from the bureau’s headquarters. Mr. Cohen said the impetus to revive the bid is the new movie, “Judas and the Black Messiah.” The movie details
White House says it must 'work more' to
discourage illegal migrants coming to US
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Posted by Ribicon 3/8/2021 4:15:52 PM Post Reply
Thousands of illegal immigrants are being set free across the country as the crisis on the southern border escalates—and the White House admitted Monday it isn’t doing enough to discourage people from seeking unlawful entry to the United States. Speaking to reporters during a press briefing, White House press secretary Jen Psaki acknowledged the failures after being pressed about the administration’s handling of the situation. “I would say it’s clear we need to work more on getting the message out and being very clear, now is not the time to come,” said Psaki, before reiterating the Biden administration’s claim that “the majority
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