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The Trump Movement As
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Posted By: Harlowe, 1/7/2021 1:18:12 AM

It’s often hard to understand the impact an event will have in the future when you are going through it in real time or soon after. Today’s storming of the Capitol, including rioting, is one of those real-time events about which I’m comfortable reaching some conclusions.(Snip)The fact that we have seen violent conduct from the left in recent years also directed at key institutions does not excuse it.(Snip) And yes, it’s possible (but not clear) that some of the violent rioters were outside agitators. Politics is not fair, and it’s never been more unfair than how Trump supporters are treated by the media.

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Professor Jacobson had no problem with litigating election disputes, but contends that none of the challenges were upheld so it became time to move to more productive action which did not happen. He holds firm to the belief that Vice President Pence could not simply reject electoral votes based on the clear wording of the Constitution. At this point he is not certain whether or not President Trump’s alliance can hold together and/or by whom, and speculates that some Trump supporters, “maybe even the majority,” things have become too much.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: wilarrbie 1/7/2021 1:36:49 AM (No. 651343)
We do not like to be 'led'. We have defaulted to being 'herded'. Our 'leaders' understand that. Trump did not.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: DVC 1/7/2021 1:44:17 AM (No. 651348)
This guy is nuts. This is the beginning, not the end.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby 1/7/2021 1:48:11 AM (No. 651353)
The Fat Lady hasn't sang yet.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: sw penn 1/7/2021 1:54:05 AM (No. 651355)
Some people think we should be "playing by the rule book". When their opponent has burned the play book, they're fools.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: caljeepgirl 1/7/2021 2:02:46 AM (No. 651357)
Obviously, wishful thinking by Mr. Jacobson.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Catherine 1/7/2021 2:02:54 AM (No. 651359)
So just because the left does it and gets away with it is no reason for Trump protesters to do the same. And yes it's probable that some of the so called Trump protestors were actually blm and antifa but that's still no excuse for today's behavior. Did I get that right?
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Reply 7 - Posted by: HisHandmaiden 1/7/2021 2:14:33 AM (No. 651360)
Oh ye of little faith... KAG
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Reply 8 - Posted by: 49 Ford 1/7/2021 2:16:02 AM (No. 651361)
# 6, when BLM/Antifa are in the mix violence is inevitable.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: DVC 1/7/2021 2:32:43 AM (No. 651364)
#8, show me some video of ANY violence by one of the protesters, if you can. I won't claim there was none, but I looked at many videos, and I saw not the slightest hint of any violence, just an unwillingness to obey the cops, and a push to get inside the Capitol. Walking steadily, refusing to be stopped by flimsy fencing and cops saying "you can't go in there". I saw one cop do one single one second squirt of something, likely pepper spray, and then the cops walked off, falling back. Nobody hit anybody that I saw. The only documented violence I have seen was the cop shooting an unarmed young lady, for no apparent reason. Were there antifa in the group? I don't know for sure, but I would not be surprised at all if there were. I didn't see any violence from anyone, though. So, if they were antifa present.....did they do anything violent? Did anyone? Anyone who has a link to actual violence in a video, I'd like to see it. So far, I saw none.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: MindMadeUp 1/7/2021 2:33:35 AM (No. 651366)
No, what ended today was our constitutional Republic. We are seeing the end-game of a coup. Trump is surrounded. No matter which way he turns, there is a back-stabber. The election was stolen, but somehow that doesn't matter because a few idiots got out of hand, probably egged on by Antifa instigators? If the woman murdered by a cop had been black and the rioters Leftists, she would have become a martyr, and held up as proof of the justice of their cause.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: 3XALADY 1/7/2021 2:46:26 AM (No. 651372)
I think I can tell the difference in a Trump supporter versus an Antifa member by their appearance after watching months of our cities being burned down and hundreds of Trump rallies. The guy using a barrier to break a window or whatever he was doing with it was not a Trump supporter. So don't tell me there MAY have been some Antifa or BLM people in the crowd. BTW, I had trouble getting the word 'Antifa' to post. Are we not supposed to use that word?
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Reply 12 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter 1/7/2021 2:47:32 AM (No. 651374)
Geez, Bill, everything today was "unacceptable" but a woman being shot dead by the police was merely a "consequence"? Seriously? And everything thrown at Trump and his supporters to date is merely "not fair" because that's simply how politics works? And yes, it’s possible (but not clear) that some of the violent rioters were outside agitators. It's clear, Bill. Clear as day because none of the antifa regulars showed up for what promised to be the mother of all protests. They were told to stay home and let the clandestine operators do the dirty work and get it all pinned on Trump. Who do you think told them that?
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Reply 13 - Posted by: NeverForget 1/7/2021 2:48:05 AM (No. 651375)
#10 -- If Ashli Babbit were black and leftist, the streets of America would be on fire right now.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: 3XALADY 1/7/2021 2:49:51 AM (No. 651378)
#9 Breaking windows to get in a federal building isn't violence? I disagree.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 1/7/2021 2:51:02 AM (No. 651380)
Hillary must be so pleased. A scorned woman.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: judy 1/7/2021 4:02:00 AM (No. 651413)
another fake news source...
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Reply 17 - Posted by: DCGIRL 1/7/2021 5:12:03 AM (No. 651423)
#14, I was there. The Trump supporters were NOT breaking windows. In fact, we picked up our trash in DC. We respected our nation's Capital. The protesters were disorderly and push over a flimsy fence and entered the capital, flew our flags from the balcony but they did NOT destroy anything. There were Antifa and I believe BLM supporters mixed in the crowd that would have created those problems. I saw on facebook the same guy was at a BLM riot that busted into the Capital. The answer to your question. Yes, Antifa and BLM were there trying to give the Trump protesters a bad name.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Krause 1/7/2021 6:22:52 AM (No. 651450)
The people, and the left media, have 'elected' and will willingly support a political party that will do anything, legal or illegal, to stay in power, while the people, who will become poorer, will get bits and pieces of help, similar to welfare, but just enough to keep them from storming their strongholds.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Califedup 1/7/2021 6:29:22 AM (No. 651456)
So according to Jacobson, storming the Capitol Building, the alleged People's House is bad, but meanwhile inside the same building Congress is busy being part and parcel of a coup d'etat brought about by massive election fraud and is handing over the Federal Government to communists. But hey, as long as the the legal formalities are followed it is ok and basically you Trump idiots need to accept this overthrow of the government and move on. There is not one sentence is this surrender article referencing the fact that the Presidential and many Senate races were stolen by the communist death democrats as the reason so many people are deeply enraged and disenfranchised. He also uses the Constitution to justify Pence the Traitor Putz's cowardly actions but meanwhile the communist death democrats routinely ignore the Constitution. The Swamp runs deep in Jacobson.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: F15 Gork 1/7/2021 7:09:58 AM (No. 651480)
Did Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis, Kenosha, NYC end the Progressive movement?
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Gruntmedic 1/7/2021 7:16:45 AM (No. 651487)
Where was this guy when rioters burned down part of Mini, trying to burn down city's and federal property.Will Slo Joe and the Ho stop their people doing this
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Daisymay 1/7/2021 7:51:30 AM (No. 651515)
In your Dreams, Mr. Jacobson. What happened to Republicans, in this Election, is the BEGINNING of an NEW PARTY. Trump may, or may not, become the Leader. Maybe it will be Don Trump, or some Republican who worked day and night to get Trump re-elected. One thing is for sure, We KNOW who will be allowed in this Party and who sat on their Hands and did nothing to stop this Fraudulent Election. Those in Congress who refused to take part yesterday are all on that NO List! Those who went on CNN and talked about there being NO Fraud, are on that NO List. Those Republicans, in any of the Battleground States, RUN by Republicans, who did not come forward with evidence of Fraud when they KNEW it was going on, will be on the NO List! Our New Party will be picky who we ALLOW in! We do not want Never Trumpers, Fake Republicans or Republicans who allowed Biden to become President. The sooner this Party begins to form, the better. We need to be up and running WAY before the Mid-Terms. Then before the next Presidential Election, we need to be on the Ballot as our OWN Party. I favor the Name Patriot Party, but I'm sure there other names others have in mind as well! Lets Roll!
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Reply 23 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 1/7/2021 7:51:46 AM (No. 651516)
This isn’t going away!
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Reply 24 - Posted by: bpl40 1/7/2021 8:00:39 AM (No. 651525)
President trump might not have executive power. But he still has the character, leadership and communication skills that won him two consecutive elections. Now he is free of burdens of office and the support of seventy five million defrauded and outraged citizens. The most potent political force Washington has seen in a long time. I see a king maker of 2022 and a candidate for 2024.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Philipsonh 1/7/2021 8:01:21 AM (No. 651527)
The Left/Democrats have been advocating and inciting violence for 4 years; but, that doesn't count. There have been riots promoted by the Left throughout the USA for 2 years, but, that doesn't count.Trump has been attacked every which way for 4+ years, but that doesn't count. A National election was just conducted in a fraudulent manner and stolen from Trump, but that doesn't count. ALL THAT COUNTS is the RIGHT finally resorting to the only thing the opposition knows, which is PROTEST. I expect it will continue, no matter what the Rhinos, the GOp whimps, the media, and the Democrats say or do. The chicken has come home to roost.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: anniebc 1/7/2021 8:35:32 AM (No. 651563)
What do people expect from our side? Are we never to act out, express our anger? I have nothing to say about those who stormed the Capitol. If I were there, I might have joined them. We were told for years that when we write our electeds, we are to be respectful and nice--to get them to listen and be swayed. What did writing and calling do for us? What did voting in Republicans get us local, state, or federal? Four of the states in question have Republican majorities! We are clearly the majority in this country, but we got punked and beat by the minority, the elite. And now they rule over US, and there's nothing we can do. We can't rally and talk sweetly to them. Wish them well and hope they won't destroy US and our way of life? What?
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Reply 27 - Posted by: 3XALADY 1/7/2021 8:58:07 AM (No. 651595)
#17 I wasn't referring to Trump supporters. The ones I saw breaking windows and climbing in were wearing backpacks and were dressed like the Antifa usually do.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: petrichor 1/7/2021 8:59:13 AM (No. 651598)
There are two Americas now. After a few years of Dem control with a weak president that split will become even wider. The only thing that can keep the Dems in power is mail-in voting.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: planetgeo 1/7/2021 9:22:14 AM (No. 651630)
Yet another "principled conservative" goes down. The clever psyops by Antifa worked to give the ickies to such principled squishes about any and all further resistance. Well, as someone who fled a communist-overtaken country, you will never have another principled way to get rid of your new overlords.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: MDConservative 1/7/2021 9:25:54 AM (No. 651634)
The UNIPARTY and its sponsors proved with this that they are willing to go to any measure to destroy Trump and any following. Those pointing out the Reichstag fire had better understand that the wrong party took the blame when it mattered, and the propaganda took hold. We've seen this before with the Tea Party movement, except that was much easier to disrupt as naive patriots trusted their "conservative" made-by-FoxNews heroes, disregarding those fancy wrapped buses that lined the street signaling the big bux were gearing up to take over. The Tea Party went quietly into the night until it elected PDT. If that attempted eradication failed, the next four years showed growing desperation by the UNIPARTY, who rightly saw Trump as an existential threat. They threw kitchen sink after kitchen sink at him, his family and supporters, from rape and tawdry sex payoffs to impeachment. It all failed. This election was the UNIPARTY's last chance, and they took it...and won. That part if over. If Trump's movement is to survive it must attack REPUBLICANS at the state level, particularly those six "controversial" states whose legislatures failed their residents and all America. REMOVE those from office. ELECT new faces of reformers. Then let it rip... Go start a third party, or water the liberty tree with blood...all fool's errands. Rip up half the UNIPARTY and there's a chance. Just don't let the slicks stop you or the movement this time. And turn off Fox News and all the other polemicists.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Strike3 1/7/2021 9:29:21 AM (No. 651638)
You wish, dumbass. Trump support is stronger than ever and the Left is sadly mistaken if they think they are free and clear of opposition. Joe and Kamala are not up to the task.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 1/7/2021 9:41:43 AM (No. 651656)
I don't think it is over. But, it is over for the pubbie party.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: Right Time 1/7/2021 10:24:13 AM (No. 651709)
FTA: "I had no problem with litigating election disputes, even if some of those disputes were suspect. Let the court process run its course, I advocated. But once that process had run out, and not a single judge, not even Trump appointed judges, upheld any challenges, it was time to move onto more productive action." THAT"S THE POINT, STUPID. Trump never had his day in court and never had any law enforcement investigation of any sort. The FBI spent more time investigating NASCAR's Bubba Wallace's fake noose. The Supreme Court denied Texas had standing to sue Pennsylvania for election theft, and that the PA Legislature had no standing either in the suit against PA. This was a railroad job, pure and simple. Millions of Americans who watched the Trump rally at the Capitol yesterday heard the magnitude, widespread prevalence, and the details of The Steal for the first time, because the LeftMedia has suppressed the facts. All they read or heard was "falsely claimed," and "without any evidence."
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Reply 34 - Posted by: FormerDem 1/7/2021 10:46:29 AM (No. 651734)
He's a political idiot. Is he a good lawyer? Anyway he is a political dope. At this point Trump turns into the lost leader who will return one day. The path to that runs through election cleanup.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: doctorfixit 1/7/2021 8:58:11 PM (No. 652392)
In your dreams. You said the Tea Party was dead too. Playing the long game.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: NYbob 1/8/2021 2:09:05 AM (No. 652647)
We had a slim chance with a Trump second turn to bring back an economy strong enough to stop the coming Depression and flushing of the US Dollar. People like this guy will be like the stunned Germans trying to buy food in about 1928. Not being dramatic, just drawing the inescapable conclusion to a mass invasion of parasites from the 3rd world and unrestrained looting by rats in DC. You think the 'shovel ready' fiasco of a Trillion made up dollars was bad, wait till the moron biden slams you with all the taxes Trump eliminated. All that pumped up money in the stock market will dissolve when companies have nothing to sell to busted American workers. The Rats will not allow jobs to return until they try and clamp down with their chinese advisors and 'citizen army.' Most workers are at the end of their rope now. Many will never, ever see a job under the rats. They told us this. Your jobs are never coming back, learn to code or something. Trump reversed all of that, but the rat media convinced lots of morons not to believe reality and said it wasn't true. The record economy of 2019 wasn't real, but a worthless dollar backed up by unbelievable debt and zero value, will be real. Guess what villains, we drop dead, the world's economy drops dead, including china which can chock on it's manufactured junk. A lot of fools are going to realize how stupid they were when the rats promises destroy their lives. I hope it starts with the media and ends up burning every liar in congress.
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Posted by Dreadnought 1/8/2021 1:05:28 PM Post Reply
Republican National Committee (RNC) chairwoman Ronna McDaniel on Friday was unanimously reelected to steer the GOP’s national party committee for another two years. In a speech to the RNC committee members who reelected her and other top GOP officials, McDaniel vowed to help the Republican Party regain the House and Senate majorities in the 2022 midterms and had a warning, saying: "Democrats, get ready, buckle your seatbelts. We’re coming."
Pelosi asks Joint Chiefs about preventing
Trump from launching nukes
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Posted by Dreadnought 1/8/2021 2:16:39 PM Post Reply
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi spoke with the nation's top military officer on Friday about precautions in place to prevent President Donald Trump from ordering a nuclear strike or conducting other military hostilities as Democrats seek his removal from office. The stunning revelation came in a letter from the speaker to House Democrats outlining next steps following a violent breach of the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday by Trump supporters. Pelosi said she spoke to Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley about guardrails in place that could prevent "an unstable president" from wielding the military or the country's nuclear arsenal.
Joe Biden could send a message to Black
Americans with this reparations bill
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Posted by NorthernDog 1/8/2021 8:59:51 AM Post Reply
A bill reintroduced in the House this week to create a commission to examine reparations for the African American descendants of slavery is being seen by many as an early test of President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris’ proclaimed commitment to tackling structural oppression. (Snip) “Given the role that Black people played in the election, getting him nominated and saving his campaign — there’s no reason they shouldn’t support this bill,” Mary Frances Berry, a professor of history at the University of Pennsylvania, said of Biden and Harris. “This is one of the best ways to make good
ABC demands 'cleansing’ Trump
movement from America
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Posted by Imright 1/8/2021 3:17:48 AM Post Reply
Beware, 75 million Trump voters.The media is calling for your ideological “cleansing” of Trump thought.In a column and tweet, ABC’s well-respected political director Rick Klein made the call after yesterday’s pro-Trump riots inside the halls of Congress.It is a sentiment throughout much of the political media and among Democrats who are also pointing an accusing finger at aides to President Trump who are resigning before their jobs end on Joe Biden’s Inauguration Day in 13 days. Trump will be an ex-president in 13 days. The fact is that getting rid of Trump is the easy part. Cleansing the movement he commands is going to be something else.
Schumer calls on Pence to use 25th Amendment
to remove Trump from office
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Posted by Dreadnought 1/7/2021 12:07:57 PM Post Reply
Presumptive Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer called on Vice President Mike Pence to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove President Donald Trump from office. “What happened at the U.S. Capitol yesterday was an insurrection against the United States, incited by the president," Schumer, D-N.Y., said in a statement on Thursday. "This president should not hold office one day longer." Schumer joins a growing contingent of lawmakers from both parties to call for Trump's removal, either by using the 25th amendment or through impeachment.
Why did the Capitol Police
fail to protect the Capitol?
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Posted by Magnante 1/7/2021 4:29:20 AM Post Reply
January 6th’s events are being seized on as a game-changer, leading to calls to invoke the 25th Amendment, calls to impeach and remove President Trump, and discrediting Trump, his supporters, and conservatism. It has distracted attention from issues around the legitimacy of voting procedures in several key states, and guaranteed the Electoral College vote just before 4 AM that ratified Joe Biden’s and Kamala Harris’s inauguration as president and vice president. Applying the classic legal question “cui bono?” (“who benefits?”), it is clear that Democrats, anti-Trump establishment Republicans, the leftist media, and TDS sufferers all are victorious.
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