Can Trump and Biden Supporters
Be Friends?
American Spectator,
by
Christopher E. Baecker
Original Article
Posted By: mc squared,
10/27/2020 9:12:01 AM
he Wall Street Journal recently ran two pieces, one atop the other, covering how neighbors and loved ones span the gulf of divergent political beliefs. Needless to say, it’s a topic of particular relevance during this, or any, election season. I teased a buddy of mine by sending it to him since I knew his wife was a supporter of Bernie Sanders, while he is generally more conservative. “Let me read this jewel, haha,” he replied. I have always struggled with this dichotomy in theory. It certainly makes for fascinating theater whenever Mary Matalin and James Carville are invited to participate in panel
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Chiritwo 10/27/2020 9:22:56 AM (No. 585984)
Of course they can. A very good friend is the exact opposite of me and we love getting together. We have far more in common than politics. Even though now it seems different than even 10 years ago, we're still friends and always will be. We respect each other. Ms. Clinton decided to call Republicans deplorable. First time that voters had ever been attacked and it hasn't stopped. Another first for her.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
msjena 10/27/2020 9:25:52 AM (No. 585990)
Yes, as long as the Trump supporter never expresses his or her opinion, or responds to the Biden supporter's criticisms of Trump.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
coldborezero 10/27/2020 9:28:38 AM (No. 585993)
How can you be friends with people whose driving purpose in life is to silence your voice, disarm you, take everything you own and enslave you to an all-powerful, totalitarian regime? No, I cannot be a friend to such creatures. They are not only my political enemies, they are my MORTAL enemies. Should they choose to instigate violence, I will rejoice in engaging them, fully and without mercy.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
chance_232 10/27/2020 9:34:09 AM (No. 585998)
Yes, with caveats. True believers on either end of the spectrum could not remain friends if politics was a constant source of discussion. When you get down to it, over half the electorate doesnt pay attention to politics and is rarely informed.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
DoneinCalif 10/27/2020 9:34:31 AM (No. 586000)
No.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
mathman 10/27/2020 9:35:13 AM (No. 586003)
No. Friendships presume some sort of similar values. Trump supports liberty and the right of individuals to make their own decisions. Biden supports the right of the Sovereign State to make all our decisions for us.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Laotzu 10/27/2020 9:42:21 AM (No. 586014)
The article is frightening in that it demonstrates the de-education of the general population (and the author) on the premise accepted for centuries: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." It is mentioned nowhere as the solution to partisan civility that was wholesale abandoned by Marxist forces in academia, and now the general population.
You will not have peace so long as one side thinks they can find victory in silencing the other side of the argument. The article REALLY missed the mark.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 10/27/2020 9:46:17 AM (No. 586024)
Anyone use the Nextdoor app? Up in New York, Andrew Cuomo was given permission to put posts out on Nextdoor. Nextdoor didn't use to be political, but once that happened it became political, and have the long knives come out on both sides. Its not pretty.
One can appreciate Lucianne where we are reminded to keep the place a salon and not a saloon. Nextdoor would do well to adopt the same policy.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 10/27/2020 9:52:45 AM (No. 586032)
The same question answered in a more ancient voice, ''What has darkness to do with light?''
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Quigley 10/27/2020 10:04:37 AM (No. 586046)
I know several people who either hate Trump or actually support bi.den.
I don't discuss politics with people who aren't ZZTrump supporters. I don't have the temperament.
But I would really like to talk to them, to understand what they see when they look at the United States and the doings of the dimocratic party. What do they see? What do they see when they look at the Republican party for that matter.
Unfortunately, that conversation would be extremely difficult to have absent plenty of time, patience, and structure.
I just don't get their viewpoint.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Mad Dog 10/27/2020 10:05:44 AM (No. 586049)
Sure, everyone needs to have a rattlesnake in their sleeping bag!
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Rather Read 10/27/2020 10:07:56 AM (No. 586052)
Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Antonin Scalia were very good friends. Back in the past, the conservative Catholic author G.K. Chesterton was good friends with the atheist, socialist George Bernard Shaw. James Stewart and Henry Fonda were very far apart politically and were good friends. It's possible.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Italiano 10/27/2020 10:10:38 AM (No. 586056)
Life's too short.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
FunOne 10/27/2020 10:17:31 AM (No. 586066)
I think it depends on the manner to which both value the friendship, and can respect that in this country, we can have different political views. I have a 55 year friendship with a person I worked on the Boy Scout camp summer staff with, and outside of politics we help each other, and work together raising money for Scouting. But, we accept that it is pointless to discuss politics, as the only thing we agree on is that come election day, we will cancel each other's vote.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
janjan 10/27/2020 10:19:45 AM (No. 586069)
I don’t hate Democrat voters. They are just ignorant. The media/politicians are another story.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
JoElla Bee 10/27/2020 10:21:24 AM (No. 586071)
FTA: “The worst that can happen is you learn something new.”
The best that can happen is THEY learn (and accept) something new to them, such as a true understanding of America’s Founding Documents. You can’t learn, teach or influence anyone with whom you don’t interact.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Toby Ten Bears 10/27/2020 10:25:58 AM (No. 586084)
No... Communists and Leftist/Fascists are off my 'friends' list.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
presty 10/27/2020 11:04:47 AM (No. 586145)
Truly wish I could...but a recent experience with a high school classmate (of 50 years) who facebooked that he loathed "name calling" less than a month after labeling our president and his supporters facist refused to see his hypocrisy. I'm done wasting my time and energy on those who are not intellectually honest. I'm also prepared to deal with those who see the death of people like me as a "final solution." Despite being an avid student of history, I remain shocked at how quickly my fellow Americans on the other side descended into such malevolence.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Anti_democRAT 10/27/2020 11:08:18 AM (No. 586151)
Pretty easy, when the leftist becomes woke. See that the were going to burn this country down. Sees there is a better choice in trump. Openly admits their mistake. Promises to help dismantle the democrat party. Offers me a sincere apology for a life of abuse. Its a little easier process for non family member
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Edgelady 10/27/2020 11:25:06 AM (No. 586176)
The tragic thing is, this separation from old friends -- it's exactly what the socialists want.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
DVC 10/27/2020 11:45:12 AM (No. 586199)
I have several friends who I am unaware of their politics, and because I value their friendship, I never raise politics with them. One is at least somewhat conservative, another is somewhat liberal. Occasionally I will send conservative cartoons to the former, never the latter.
But, if a friend were to get all crazy and in my face about politics and attack me on Trump support.....that would likely end it.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
2assume 10/27/2020 11:53:00 AM (No. 586213)
I was at the casino the other day. As I played I chatted with the person sitting next to me. We had the most wonderful time. I was enjoying her company. We visited for about an hour when she said she had to leave because she did not want to miss the debate. It was at that time I discovered her political leaning. She became something unrecognizable. We did not have a discussion. She screamed vile things about Trump and called me a liar. She used all the left talking points and said everyone who supports Trump is now in prison. She said that unlike me she is a christian and God is on her side. She said she has traveled a lot and that the whole world hates Trump and because I don’t have her worldly experience I am ignorant. I had to walk away. The outburst was so intense it left me shaken and physically sick.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
StormCnter 10/27/2020 11:55:05 AM (No. 586214)
Silly question. Are friendships based on voting preferences? Mine aren't. And I have family members who may have or will be voting Democrat. They're still family and are still loved.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Kate318 10/27/2020 12:01:49 PM (No. 586224)
Honestly, it depends on the Biden supporter.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
JoElla Bee 10/27/2020 12:02:22 PM (No. 586228)
Every case is different, therefore the way it’s handled differs too. We’ve seen posts on this site showing that people can, and do, change their minds given the right set of circumstances. The Bernie follower who actually listened and looked into Trump’s record about issues that mattered to him, and decided to vote for Trump. The early voters in TN, AZ, VA, PA, etc., who learned about the depth of corruption in the Biden family and wanted to change their votes. Some people are just genuinely ignorant of the overwhelming efforts to deceive them. It is the ones who are a knowledgeable, aware, and willingly active part of the deception, and the fundamental transformation of our country that may be acquaintances, but whom you wouldn’t be able to trust as a friend, regardless of how long you may have known them.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
wakeupcall 10/27/2020 12:02:51 PM (No. 586229)
Friends? The only way one can be friends with Globalist Marxist Communists is to be one of them. Even then you will need to watch your back because as soon as you become a useful idiot liability instead of a useful idiot asset you are removed.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
wakeupcall 10/27/2020 12:06:01 PM (No. 586235)
Friends? The only way one can be friends with Globalist Marxist Communists is to be one of them. Even then you will need to watch your back because as soon as you become a useful idiot liability instead of a useful idiot asset you are removed.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
thelmalou 10/27/2020 12:48:02 PM (No. 586274)
For me, friends, yes...spouse, no. A marriage cannot survive with the two partners going two different ways in life. So when I see couples like Carville/Matalin (liberal/conservative) or Steve and the late Cokie Roberts (Jewish/Catholic), I can only conclude that other things weigh more than their principles. For Carville/Matalin, I suspect money (and maybe love). For the Robertses, I suspect love...they were so good together. (The same could be said for our Miss Lucianne and her beloved Sidney. Gone too soon was he.)
They've all made it work, but I just know me too well. I wouldn't be able to pull it off.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
BillW. 10/27/2020 12:50:30 PM (No. 586278)
When I read American Thinker and thumb-check the comments, compared to some of them, L.comers are total patriots. Makes me proud to hang out around here, and Contribute. Thank you, Lucianne.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
hershey 10/27/2020 1:04:43 PM (No. 586295)
NO!!!! We are diametrically opposed in our outlook on life.....
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
paral04 10/27/2020 1:10:40 PM (No. 586303)
Republicans can't, rabid democrats can't. That party lost all civility under the Obama Administration.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 10/27/2020 1:46:25 PM (No. 586365)
Oh no! I would rather wrestle with a male lion in the jungle using a pork chop for a weapon it would be safer.
I can proudly say I have no liberal friends I cast them all off even family members they are disgusting to me as I am to them.
The die is cast and it will never be resolved.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
padiva 10/27/2020 1:59:48 PM (No. 586384)
I didn't go to my 50th high school reunion because of their liberal outlook. I didn't want to spend $600 (travel, hotel, etc) for this aggravation.
But then again, I didn't hang out with them when I was in high school.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
philsner 10/27/2020 2:23:58 PM (No. 586422)
No.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
24tea@Mag 10/27/2020 3:31:18 PM (No. 586519)
Don’t think so and don’t want to.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
XCenturion 10/27/2020 5:06:06 PM (No. 586629)
Personally I don't need to be friends with anyone that supports a demented corrupt politician whose Socialist agenda is to destroy American capitalism and chip away at our Constitution.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
NYbob 10/27/2020 8:40:02 PM (No. 586808)
I don't have the time or energy to deprogram friends who are educated by TV. I will not give an inch if they bring up any subject that touches politics and these days that means a lot of things. They seize on a report that was carefully edited by TV and are doubtful of any counter argument, even if I use facts that their media left out. If it goes down to the wire then they cop out with the old, 'they all do it.' It is a moot point for anyone from NY or VT and what is left of my family and friends in PA are Trump 100%.
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I don't have an answer for the questions the author proposes. How can you relate to a friend who votes to take away your property and your defenses?