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Crisis response team
— without cops — would be sent to mental health
emergencies under proposal

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Posted By: tisHimself, 9/30/2020 8:33:40 AM

Community health advocates and some aldermen called Tuesday for creation of a crisis response team that excludes police officers to help people experiencing mental health emergencies. “Currently, the city’s response to crises has been done and managed exclusively by the city’s police department,” said Arturo Carrillo, lead organizer for the Collaborative for Community Wellness, a citywide coalition of community groups. “As a result, the largest mental health provider in this city and this country is Cook County Jail.” Instead, Carrillo, a licensed social worker, said the crisis response team would be staffed by paramedics and social workers and operated by the Chicago Department of Public Health.

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Time to slash fEderal funding for public health initiatives.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: hershey 9/30/2020 8:39:51 AM (No. 557227)
Sure, that will work until the first Responder gets shot or stabbed...
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Reply 2 - Posted by: MOBeef4u 9/30/2020 8:45:29 AM (No. 557230)
Domestic disturbances are one of the most unpredictable and dangerous situations police face. See how long this program lasts after a few maimings or deaths of the participants.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: mean Gene 9/30/2020 8:48:11 AM (No. 557233)
Mental health emergencies? Like domestic disturbance calls? Or, thieves and robbers who happen to be high? Is falling asleep (because high) in a car at a drive thru one? All this does is put unarmed gov't workers' lives at risk. These particular workers are accustomed to dealing with sickos AFTER they've been medicated into submission. They haven't got a clue how to subdue them while they are in the wild.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: JL80863 9/30/2020 8:48:36 AM (No. 557234)
The reason law enforcement agencies have cops on patrol is to minimize the time needed for an emergency response. Are members of the "crisis response team" going to be on patrol? Initial dispatch information provided to responders is often incorrect, although not because of errors by dispatchers. Community health advocates should learn something about the realities of emergency first response before making half baked recommendations.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Safari Man 9/30/2020 8:54:35 AM (No. 557239)
They're coming to take me away, hee hee. And I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: anniebc 9/30/2020 9:00:45 AM (No. 557244)
This is like having silly extra people embedded with military forces in combat. The police have to focus on protecting do-gooder idiots as well as everything else they have to do in their difficult jobs. Leftists make me sick!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: seamusm 9/30/2020 9:01:20 AM (No. 557245)
A classmate was an EMT in Dallas many years ago. When once his team responded to a domestic disturbance siuation BEFORE the police had arrived, the he found a man standing with a gun in his hand over a gunshot victim. 'Is he dead?', my friend was asked so the EMT team checked the victim. Finding him still alive, they were told to leave at the point of a gun. They left the apartment only to hear the gunshot which finished off the victim. Policy was changed - the EMTs were never to arrive BEFORE the police had secured the scene first.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Rotten in Denmark 9/30/2020 9:03:47 AM (No. 557248)
Gee Wally, what could possibly go wrong? Wait till they are murdered, do we want this?? What tripe.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: The Remnants 9/30/2020 9:15:57 AM (No. 557258)
I think there is a personality disorder where you blame everything on everyone else and never on yourself.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: rabblerouser 9/30/2020 9:35:06 AM (No. 557274)
Now how exactly is that going to work? On that show "Nightwatch" EMTs refused to go in certain areas of New Orleans without police back-up. Stands to reason the same will happen in Chicago. No sane person is going to take a job like that. So, you'll have crazies trying to help crazies?
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Lawsy0 9/30/2020 9:35:44 AM (No. 557275)
This is a crock. Schools of Public Policy research from which it springs are also a crock.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: DVC 9/30/2020 9:37:54 AM (No. 557278)
How could it possibly go wrong? /s off I predict that this will not last long, and that their "paramedics and social workers" will get hurt or killed by the fine nut cases that they get to deal with.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: skacmar 9/30/2020 9:42:19 AM (No. 557283)
How do you know some thing is a "mental health" emergency? When the crazed person is coming at you with a gun, will the Social Worker step in and talk to the person while they are aiming the gun at their head and wait until the trigger is pulled before the police are allowed to take action? Guess that would cull the population of liberals from the population and change attitudes towards this crazy crazy idea pretty fast.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: lakerman1 9/30/2020 10:25:26 AM (No. 557330)
kid brother is a psychologist. he retired two years ago. why/ He said he retired because he didn't want to expose himself to physical danger any longerl- that things were getting worse and worse. (His specialty, by the way,. was the identification and diagnosisof suicidal individuals - something the police deal with regularly.) Does Old Jo really think he can find a flock of psychiatrists/psychologists to respond to those 911 calls??
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Reply 15 - Posted by: czechlist 9/30/2020 10:25:59 AM (No. 557332)
In the early '70s I had the unpleasant duty of Shore Patrol in Long Beach, CA. Calls to Navy housing were frequent and predictable with repeat visits to cetain addresses . We took many sailors into protective custody to protect them from their wives. I feared for my own life. Navy social services visited these families without resolution. No social worker should have to confront the drunken ragers with weapons we had to deal with. Thankfully I was released from active duty early but those 2 months convinced me that I did not have the temperament for a law enforcement career nor social work.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: DCGIRL 9/30/2020 10:40:09 AM (No. 557343)
This should be entertaining.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici 9/30/2020 10:46:49 AM (No. 557353)
OK, forget the various, very accurate, problems the rest of you have pointed out about the police being trained to deal with violence. Where are they planning to find the people to staff these new "crisis response" teams?
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Reply 18 - Posted by: john56 9/30/2020 11:19:07 AM (No. 557387)
Crisis response teams WITH cops would be in danger, too.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Starboard_side 9/30/2020 11:21:18 AM (No. 557391)
Ah, now I get it. They're looking for ways to elevate social workers to first responder status, which would be a significant increase in pay and pension that the taxpayers would have to accommodate. Oh, and the police would suddenly have to be protective of those additional people sent on every call, thus, taking away from their ability to handle the situation.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: dbdiva 9/30/2020 1:59:56 PM (No. 557526)
Had this been the procedure in Lancaster the situation would have been disasterous for the responders involved. I doubt they would have been trained how to disarm a mentally ill individual who had a weapon. However the most important thing to the people who formulated the policy would be that everything is handled in the most PC way possible. If injuries or deaths resulted so be it.....,,
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Chuzzles 9/30/2020 2:01:26 PM (No. 557528)
Wanna bet that there will be no sympathy for the ones who get harmed in this ridiculous idea either. When I say sympathy, I mean from the democrats in office. They will try to push it under the rug instead. Can't admit failure on their part.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Philipsonh 9/30/2020 2:38:54 PM (No. 557558)
That is a recipe for a lot of injured/dead social workers. The parmedics can wear flak vests. What in G_d's name are these people thinking. The paremedics will be needed for the wounded Social workers.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Vuulfie2 9/30/2020 3:34:18 PM (No. 557608)
These stupid policies are usually pushed by people that have never been on the front lines facing a dangerous individual that could possibly do them great bodily harm. I agree with many here. Who in their right mind would volunteer to be the first responder w/o police protection?
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Monique 9/30/2020 3:55:56 PM (No. 557625)
I think that during the first year of response, any crisis response team has to have a member of "Community health advocates and some aldermen" who came up with this, accompanying the crisis response team, and no police go in first or are even available for at least 15 minutes after the cr team gets there. Betcha the program won't last one month.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: XCenturion 10/1/2020 3:14:21 AM (No. 558050)
I was a cop for 30 years. I would love to see an unarmed "crisis response team" respond to a domestic violence call. Mucking forons!
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