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Marie Harf wrongly slanders
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Posted By: Pluperfect, 6/28/2020 5:08:51 AM

In a discussion on Fox News about the tear-down of America’s monuments and statues taking place in hot spots around the nation right now, liberal pundit Marie Harf, who served as a national security adviser for Barack Obama, said that “process,” not mob violence, should dictate the outcomes of these structures. She said, in the end, the Confederate statutes should be removed because the Confederates were “traitors” to the country. Spoken like a true elitist. Spoken like a true-blue “The Federal Government Knows Best,” anti-states’ rights elitist. Spoken like an elitist who’s forgotten or worse, dismissed, historical truths. The rise of the South, the establishment of the Confederacy was not an overnight,

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DCGIRL 6/28/2020 6:29:25 AM (No. 459643)
Not surprised. We are talking about one of Obama's girls that has an IQ of 2. I scratch my head wondering why she and Donna Brazile are hired by FOX. Then I remember, Paul Ryan is on the board and it all makes sense.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: petrichor 6/28/2020 6:47:43 AM (No. 459651)
I watched a report on one of the C-Span channels that indicated that slavery was indeed the issue among the Confederacy. The soldiers in the CSA probably did not fight for slavery, but the state governments did.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: RCFLyer98 6/28/2020 6:49:04 AM (No. 459654)
While she was a "spokewoman" for the State Department, on a TV segment commenting about an Arab terrorist attack, she proclaimed all "they" need was a hug and a job, then all would settle down and be alright. She is an idiot of the first order. It was with Jen Psaki and Harf, that they a complete joke at the State Department.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: HPmatt 6/28/2020 6:49:36 AM (No. 459655)
Almost never watch that channel anymore. Hiring Harf was an 'in-your-face' act that signaled 'we don't care if she was employed in Obamagate Admin to tell lies'. Like the cheating d-n-c 'slip Hildabeast the quiz questions' Donna Brazil. Harf still continues to do it on F-o-x, they know it, and all the well paid F-o-x co-workers know it, and are okay with it. I'm not and 'news' doesn't work well with Liar. Out-ta-there F-o-x.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Rob_NC 6/28/2020 7:15:46 AM (No. 459667)
And still don't know who she I losing out !
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Reply 6 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 6/28/2020 7:26:03 AM (No. 459670)
It's obvious that Civics and History were not part of Ms Harf's education. And she obviously doesn't understand Federalism vs the 10th Amendment. But she will tell you that she is smarter than the rest of us. Harf is a typical leftist elite.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: spacer 6/28/2020 7:48:50 AM (No. 459685)
First time I ever heard confederate generals, Robert E. Lee included, called traitors, was the other day when none other than 4 star retired general Keane called them traitors. He was commenting on changing the army bases names.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: MISteve 6/28/2020 7:51:56 AM (No. 459689)
Marie is intellectually lazy, having once heard something about the Civil War from somebody and developing her own description of the history and reasons for the war. Secession took many years to develop. She never knew that. We have a new word in our household (new since the Obama administration): to harf. As in “boy, she really harfed that one up”.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Jebediah 6/28/2020 8:11:16 AM (No. 459712)
I have to assume that Hard and others are ion Fox to act as foils, as they lie like mad and have RECORDS of their lying in the past that are easily accessible. Yet nobody much counters them when they speak out along these lines.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: bpl40 6/28/2020 8:11:42 AM (No. 459715)
#8, a similar story. In the 19th century. The city of Edinburgh was not directly connected to the rest of the country by road and needed a bridge. This was designed by the head of the Dept. of Civil Engineering at the Univ. of Edinburgh. Built but shortly collapsed. Was rebuilt but the same result. The name of the designer ? Prof. Botch. Giving the English language a permanent expression describing these situations. Looking forward to 'harfing it' take a similar role!
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Strike3 6/28/2020 8:33:49 AM (No. 459745)
What can one expect from a woman whose name sounds like a cat hacking up a hairball? At least Juan Williams has a somewhat normal name but his job description is the same as Marie's, be a stupid liberal to offset the other Fox people who have functioning brains. Their numbers keep dwindling.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: bigfatslob 6/28/2020 8:44:23 AM (No. 459752)
A mental midget with a double digit IQ and speaks like a 'valley girl'. Thanks Marie for that Harf now go away.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Clinger 6/28/2020 9:19:32 AM (No. 459779)
Take the "why" out of the equation and simply examine the right of southern states to secede under the constitution and then decide who were the traitors. Or did the ends justify the means? Not so simple is it. FYI, I'm from the frozen North as were my ancestors including a GGG Grandfather who was killed fighting for the Union.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: doctorfixit 6/28/2020 9:32:41 AM (No. 459790)
Marie Harf is a bowl of Barf. I will not watch Fox until they get rid of the commies.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: udanja99 6/28/2020 9:41:19 AM (No. 459797)
I don’t know about them being traitors but I do know that they were democrats.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: MDConservative 6/28/2020 10:09:34 AM (No. 459824)
FTA: "The Confederates may have been traitors in Abraham Lincoln’s eyes." And Old Abe wasn't alone. Thousands of defeated Confederates, military and civilian leaders alike, accepted US President Andrew Johnson's "full pardon and amnesty for the offence of treason against the United States" declared on December 25, 1868. Seems the contemporaries had no issue with the term.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: 3XALADY 6/28/2020 10:11:39 AM (No. 459825)
I wonder if Marie knows her last name has become a verb. What she can contribute to a conversation is worth a spitball in a hailstorm or something like that.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: red1066 6/28/2020 10:33:41 AM (No. 459845)
I noticed several decades ago, that whenever a Civil War reenactment took place, the number of participants dressed as confederates out numbered the number of those dressed as union soldiers. After talking to and listening to many of these reenactors, one reason they chose to be a confederate, came down to being antigovernment. Many chose to dress as confederates simply to symbolically poke government in the eye. Not the government of 1862, but the federal government of today. I knew many reenactors who appeared in the movie Gettysburg. There were so many who showed up dressed as confederates to appear in the movie, that the director had to ask that some of reenactors change uniforms, and become union soldiers. Now of course, the Civil War is a much bigger deal in the southern states then the northern states, but many of the reenactors who came as confederates were from northern states. Some from as far away as Maine.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Rama41 6/28/2020 10:34:29 AM (No. 459846)
Next week is the anniversary of Gettysburg. Better check out the YouTube videos of the reconciliation events of 1913 and 1938 between the Gray and Blue at the high water mark of Pickett's Charge before they're removed.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Ashley Brenton 6/28/2020 10:49:56 AM (No. 459855)
This is a topic on which I, strangely, part company with most other Republicans. Why should I feel differently about the Confederacy than any Republican did in 1861? And for Chumley to bring up "states rights"? Hey, Chumley? How many non-slaveholding states seceded because they were upset about their states rights? None? Why? Because if you read the speeches of governors and legislators leading up to secession, you'll find they were all only talking about ONE thing. Every "declaration of secession" written talks about slavery, in the first paragraph, and then somehow forgets to mention any other grievance besides slavery. Why didn't the slave-holding states honor another state's "right" not to enforce the Fugitive Slave Laws? As far as regular Confederate soldiers, why was the prospect of blacks walking around free used as a means to spur them to kill or be killed? Just as in every SINGLE instance of a real or suspected slave uprising, regular men were spurred to action with warnings that the ringleader had already picked their white female victims for rape? If regular, non-slaveholding Southerners were at best indifferent to whether slaves would be does one explain the decades of lynching and terrorism that followed the war? The answer is that regular guys were NOT indifferent to black people living free. They DID NOT WANT IT. And were willing to kill to stop it. Look, folks, those people were DEMOCRATS. The statues raised to honor them were put up by DEMOCRATS. Would you stand for someone putting up a statue of Adam Schiff? Would you defend it? Those Confederates were 50 times worse than Adam Schiff could ever be.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: LadyHen 6/28/2020 10:56:30 AM (No. 459864)
When Shelby Foote was asked if he would have fought for the Confederacy: "No doubt about it. What’s more, I would fight for the Confederacy today if the circumstances were similar. There’s a great deal of misunderstanding about the Confederacy, the Confederate flag, slavery, the whole thing. The political correctness of today is no way to look at the middle of the nineteenth century. The Confederates fought for some substantially good things. States rights is not just a theoretical excuse for oppressing people. You have to understand that the raggedy Confederate soldier who owned no slaves and probably couldn’t even read the Constitution, let alone understand it, when he was captured by Union soldiers and asked, What are you fighting for? replied, I’m fighting because you’re down here. So I certainly would have fought to keep people from invading my native state. " Shelby Foote I'll trust the scholar Shelby Foote and his vast knowledge accumulated over decades and not the blithering of brain bead wokesters. BTW I anticipate Mr Foote and his voluminous writings will be on the BLM and SJW burn list in coming years.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: LadyHen 6/28/2020 11:04:01 AM (No. 459871)
Oh and if you have not read "Confederates in the Attic" by the sadly late great Tony Horwitz, do it. You will enjoy it! It is one of my favorite books of all time. We lost Tony a little over a year ago, he was only 60. His books line my shelves as some of the best, most objective, critically thought out books on history and the people who lived it that have ever been written. Plus, they are very entertaining as Tony had a fantastic sense of humor and a way with words. I openly wept when he died. It was a real loss to our world.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: DVC 6/28/2020 11:53:56 AM (No. 459928)
Harf has obviously been an idiot since she first showed up pumping lies for the State Department on TV. Still an idiot, still a liar. Not someone I listen to, ever.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: StormCnter 6/28/2020 12:14:47 PM (No. 459958)
I agree, #22, about "Confederates in the Attic". Horwitz captured with humor and compassion how many Southerners feel about the Confederacy and our history. I've recommended that book and shared my own copy more times than I can count.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: FunOne 6/28/2020 1:04:43 PM (No. 460022)
In reply to my fellow American Yankee friend # 13: History will record that the USA is a nation founded by TRAITORS. George Washington, Ben Franklin, Sam Adams, Paul Revere and their associates, all of them subjects of the King of England, chose to raise arms against the King and his army. The Confederates were involved in doing what their forefathers, the American colonists did 75 years earlier--to disengage from a government that they no longer treated them properly. The states choosing to secede passed legislation informing the federal government that they were declaring their independence. They did not attempt to take over the northern states, they just wanted to be left alone to go their own way, just like the colonists did with England. As to your advice to examine the Constitution--there is noting in the Constitution that addresses how a state should opt out of the "union". As such, there is nothing in the Constitution that calls on the federal government to send armies to force a seceding state to remain a part of the union. That was simply not addressed in any manner.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Rumblehog 6/28/2020 1:04:51 PM (No. 460023)
They were exercising their Constitutional rights as free States to secede from the Union. They did it peacefully and properly. And then the Northern aggression began...
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Chuzzles 6/28/2020 1:17:59 PM (No. 460044)
Harf needs to put real reading glasses on, instead of her smart girls, and grab a history book about the Federal government at that time. Congress in an effort at reunification, folded the confederacy back into the Federal government, and made those soldiers all eligible for whatever government benefits were available at that time. This was settled after the War Marie, and it is not something you can rewrite to suit your agenda. Way too many CW buffs out here still to allow that.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: envirodude 6/28/2020 1:45:50 PM (No. 460074)
Jefferson Davis was arrested, kept in prison for a couple of years without a trial, and released on bail. He was never sent to trial for treason or any crime. Nor did he ver accept the loyalty oath to be readmitted into the union. Accusing them of treason is the neo idiocy and history revision that idiot leftists use to silence southerners. Yes, the south left for slavery. But slavery was constitutional. It would be no different than the reaction of democrats if Trump and the courts outlawed abortion overnight. How many of the radicals would yowl in protest. That’s what the south did. They left the union because Lincoln broke the contract.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: TheRevJMP 6/28/2020 2:00:28 PM (No. 460084)
I'm not sure whether I'm qualified to comment on Harf's intelligence, but I will make one observation. She is an absolute genius, if that's the right word, at remaining utterly impervious to both reasoned argument and honest self-analysis. Hit her with a truth bomb and she gets right back to her feet, like a Weeble. Her capacity to emerge unscathed from an argument she has lost is on a par with the vainglorious James Comey's.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 6/29/2020 1:32:14 AM (No. 460398)
Marie has always had SFB. I weep when I read this trash. The war that never ends.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: zoidberg 6/29/2020 7:34:12 AM (No. 460490)
"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in LEVYING WAR AGAINST THEM, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted." How was the War of Southern Rebellion NOT treason?
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Police say a black 16-year-old boy was killed and a black 14-year-old boy was wounded following a shooting at Seattle's CHOP zone. Homicide detectives said they are investigating after the two teenagers were shot in a white Jeep near a makeshift barrier around the Capitol Hill Organized Protest (CHOP) zone at about 3am on Monday. Police say witnesses told 911 dispatchers that they saw several unidentified people firing shots into the vehicle.(Snip) Detectives searched the vehicle for evidence on Monday morning but said in a statement that it was clear the crime scene had been 'disturbed'.
Chicago man killed 2 teens after they
asked how tall he was, police say
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Posted by JunkYardDog 6/29/2020 7:45:18 AM Post Reply
A Chicago man is accused of killing two teenagers at a convenience store this month after they asked how tall he was, authorities said on Thursday. Laroy Battle, 19, reportedly opened fire on Jasean Francis, 17, and Charles Riley, 16, in a back ally around 5 p.m. on June 20 after they and a friend walked home from buying candy at the store -- following a brief encounter with the suspect. "The victims commented, because, since Battle is quite tall, and they asked him how tall he was and you know, hoped to be that tall someday," Deputy Chief of Detectives Brendan Deenihan told Chicago's WLS-TV.
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