Quarantine Protesters Are No
Heroes of Civil Disobedience
National Review,
by
Jonah Goldberg
Original Article
Posted By: tisHimself,
4/26/2020 5:58:23 AM
We all deserve protection from the coronavirus, which is now our nation’s second-leading cause of death. To get it, we must cooperate and make sacrifices.
Our culture has a wonderful way of taking controversial or partisan figures and weaving them into the broader story of America.
When Abraham Lincoln was assassinated, for example, his secretary of war, Edwin Stanton, purportedly said, “Now he belongs to the ages,” which was a way of saying that the battles Lincoln fought and the leadership he provided would stay with us and shape the nation going forward.
Yes they are heroes Jonah... you blithering blabbering boob. It's easy to cast aspersions from your Ivory Tower isn't it little man.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam 4/26/2020 6:32:37 AM (No. 391859)
I can see why he’s no longer a regularly published columnist anymore.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
chumley 4/26/2020 6:34:50 AM (No. 391861)
Heroes? No. But they are good Americans who put freedom above all else, in contrast to the cosmopolitan kollectivists like Jonah, who think we should all sacrifice everything in case it might be useful to someone on the east coast.
Its just another hit piece against Americans who love America and what it stands for. Such a disappointment. To think I used to enjoy reading his columns, before 2016.
He should hire in to CNN or MSNBC. He'd fit right in.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
MainelySane 4/26/2020 6:41:59 AM (No. 391866)
Jonah Goldberg has lost his ability to reason.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
privateer 4/26/2020 6:59:53 AM (No. 391873)
Since this is a salon...I will merely say: in this case, the apple tree was on a steep slope.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
bigken2 4/26/2020 7:01:11 AM (No. 391875)
no we are trying to save the usa from the evil dems and worthless rino never trumps
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
The Remnants 4/26/2020 7:02:47 AM (No. 391877)
FTA:
"...coronavirus , which is now our nation's second leading cause of death..."
I know it is just happenstance, but it's interesting to contrast that statement with the facts in the following article to show two very different mindsets.
And, the way some people mix coronavirus with everything and anything as a cause of death, I can't imagine anyone ever being able to sort out that mess.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
MISteve 4/26/2020 7:07:14 AM (No. 391883)
Heart disease is the leading cause of death in the US at over 600000 per year. Lucianne’s son starts his screed with a non-fact. Chi-Com-19 had a good spurt for three months. Anybody with the virus who happens to die is a “Covid-19” death.
Now, I will read the article.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 4/26/2020 7:10:17 AM (No. 391885)
Locking down entire states is a completely different from quarantining people with an infection. When in the history of this country has this ever been done before?. Yes, people deserve to be protected from disease but not at the expense of other people's constitutional rights. That's the reason we the taxpayers pay for the CDC and other health officials. They failed. I have no problem with voluntary measures. There was noting voluntary about the lockdown. Jonah you're wrong, The protesters are heroes and the country needs more of them.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
MISteve 4/26/2020 7:17:06 AM (No. 391888)
Now, I have read it. Someone makes an inapt reference to Rosa Parks, so Jonah must get up on his high-horse and defend her. Civil liberties are still Civil Liberties even if it isn’t Jim Crow that is being protested. To Jonah, protestors are stupid if their cause is not lofty enough for him. Jonah should seek treatment for his Covfefe-45 TDS infection.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
HammerDax56 4/26/2020 7:17:39 AM (No. 391889)
We can depend on Jonah to completely cloud his worldview with TDS.
Kind of sad for him actually.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Wizard of is 4/26/2020 7:34:37 AM (No. 391895)
Jonah’s mind is a terrible thing to waste. It continues.
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It's a shame because I used to admire Jonah. His TDS is apparently incurable and terminal.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Jethro bo 4/26/2020 7:50:56 AM (No. 391910)
Wow, we haven't even finshed tallying up the 2019 causes f death and Jonah already has accurate figures for 2020? Sorry Jonah. COVID hasn't even approached the suicide rate of death yet. Much less cancer, COPD, accidents Dementia and strokes yet. A nice 'we need to be surveil fascist peons for the greater good' article. Except this country wasn't founded on the greater good, but on individual life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The Constitution is the rules of the country, but not the reason for the country. Its about time we remember there is a difference.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
mythman 4/26/2020 7:51:24 AM (No. 391911)
No clicks for Jonah or NR. Not now, not ever.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
seamusm 4/26/2020 7:57:31 AM (No. 391916)
Sorry, Mr. Goldberg. Comparing what Trump says today to what he said last week or month is not evidence of inconsistency when the information about covid-19 is in constant flux. Further, when you state that, "Banning Michiganders from purchasing gardening equipment and car seats for babies strikes me as heavy-handed", I have serious doubts about your credibility. Only 'heavy handed'? Coming from someone whose book on fascism I consider brilliant, I'd have to agree with other respondents here - you can no longer see the forest for the trees when it comes to Trump.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Paperpuncher 4/26/2020 7:59:43 AM (No. 391919)
I lost Jonah four years ago and have no interest in his opinions.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
PostAway 4/26/2020 8:05:51 AM (No. 391924)
So, if government leaders pick one group to oppress that’s bad, but if they oppress the citizenry en masse, that’s good and isn’t even oppression but is merely enforcing public safety. Mr. Goldberg seems to have a confidence in ultimate power afforded to government leaders which the nation’s founders lacked.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
NancyD 4/26/2020 8:10:45 AM (No. 391926)
The United States IS NOT New York. I'm in Michigan, the virus is mainly in the Detroit area. Our County has between 100-125 cases. Some Counties in Michigan have none or under a dozen, WHY should they be treated like NY or even Detroit for that matter. I think people's livelihood is more important than "maybe" catching the Wuhaun virus and surviving it. The for the most part, the media only report deaths, not survival. Its their way of unnecessarily scaring the crap out of the people to Control Them! Wake up!
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
hoopsfan 4/26/2020 8:12:44 AM (No. 391928)
Similar to #9, I stopped reading at "coronavirus, which is our nation's second leading cause of death".
Based on the comments of others, I think I'll move on to other things.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
tootall 4/26/2020 8:14:58 AM (No. 391932)
Fredo to me!
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
JayD 4/26/2020 8:19:26 AM (No. 391940)
For a guy who has written extensively on fascism, it's surprising he can't see some first steps toward it. It is not the government's place to order people to stay inside, or to shut down businesses. The government can set out guidelines to follow, and then people who are at risk can choose to follow those guidelines. The one-size-fits-all approach is a social-justice concept, and enforcement by police is fascistic. It really bothers me to see police gleefully arresting people for being outside on a beach, or paddle-boarding off the shore, or playing ball with their family in a park. After all, a right that you have to ask permission to use is not a right at all.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
PCMM 4/26/2020 8:26:24 AM (No. 391945)
Jonah is (and will always be) an effeminate poser who’ll do the same thing with his mouth that Chuck Todd does when signaling he’s about to impress himself with a profundity that most will see as boring.
(The rest of this comment was self-deleted out of respect for Mom)
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
franq 4/26/2020 8:28:57 AM (No. 391948)
Why, Jonah, why?
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
msjena 4/26/2020 8:31:16 AM (No. 391950)
There is no way the virus is the second leading cause of death. Cancer historically is #2, with nearly 600,000 deaths a year. There is no way the virus deaths will begin to approach that number. Right now, there are 54,000 deaths and the number is declining each day. The final number for 2020 will likely be under 100,000.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
mobyclik 4/26/2020 8:34:26 AM (No. 391953)
Go back to your basement and hide under a cot for another month Jonah before you get the vapors...more.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Strike3 4/26/2020 8:35:24 AM (No. 391955)
Apparently, only protests by BLM, Bernie Bros, Antifa and Lesbians are valid. Okay, Jonah, we'll just sit down and be quiet while our betters close our neighborhood businesses, beaches, churches, highways and life in general. Thankfully our "betters" have revealed themselves to be weak, cowardly, dictatorial little Napoleons before things went too far and now they will all be removed from office soon.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
zzzghy 4/26/2020 8:35:42 AM (No. 391956)
Here's your pick for sloe joe's veep, yo. He's perfect.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Laotzu 4/26/2020 8:45:01 AM (No. 391963)
Jonah is walking the path of David Brock. Brock was an ardent reporter of facts (all bad) about the Clintons until he checked into a mental ward in Northwest DC, and came out an avowed Leftist.
Brock's motives are obviously financial. He's become a multi-millionaire building NPOs. In years to come, we'll find out what Jonah was up to in these years.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Rinktum 4/26/2020 8:55:23 AM (No. 391973)
Please Lord, never allow me to desire the praise of my peers more than I do my integrity. No thinking person could possibly write something so lacking in research and fact. Sad to witness JG voluntarily abandon all reason to write something filled with cheap shots and fallacy.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
MickTurn 4/26/2020 9:07:12 AM (No. 391987)
Just in time for the snark, Goldberg, the king of the never Trumpers, never ceases to prove he's a hate filled idiot. I certainly hope he's not related to Lucianne!
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
tsquare 4/26/2020 9:12:58 AM (No. 391992)
I favor the federalist form of gov that the pres is following, as opposed to pres as autocrat. Others may disagree. But in thes screed Goldberg soils himself by disagreeing with himself
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
sw penn 4/26/2020 9:23:16 AM (No. 392000)
"We all deserve protection from the coronavirus,"
This is a fairly dangerous, and apparently growing concept.
No one has a "right" to a life free from risk.
There is much literature to the effect
that a life free from risk
is no life at all.
And government does not have the power to give you a risk free life,
but they will use that concept to give you a liberty free life.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
Falconer 4/26/2020 9:38:40 AM (No. 392024)
Did Jonah just say that Trump hates Rosa Parks? No, but yes.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
worried 4/26/2020 9:53:55 AM (No. 392041)
From the CDC stats on leading causes of deaths in the U.S.
Heart disease: 647,457
Cancer: 599,108
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
I don't see the coronavirus anywhere there!
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
BeatleJeff 4/26/2020 9:54:52 AM (No. 392042)
Add Jonah to the list of those who still have employment and a steady income, and thus have the luxury of focusing on their health rather than on how they're going to pay the mortgage and put food on their children's table. Too many of them, and you can also count Jonah with them, have lost all compassion and empathy for those who aren't as fortunate as they are. I am eternally grateful that I don't have to worry about finances, but I have total sympathy for those who must and fully support their efforts to agitate the system back into some semblance of normalcy. As for Jonah, I suggest that Miss Lucianne put her son over her knee and instill some compassion into him.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
Suzi 4/26/2020 9:56:47 AM (No. 392047)
I am literally putting my job on the line by going to protests in Sacramento. My supervisor made it clear she doesn’t agree and other nurses have asked me to sign something that if i get sick with The Rona, I’ll waive care.
So don’t tell me, Jonah. I’m no HERO. I’m a free woman who has unalienable rights that I’ll fight for.
NO ONE will tell me not to come out of my house! 🇺🇸
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
Bohallx 4/26/2020 10:01:57 AM (No. 392055)
Clue: You don't want to spread COVID19, or catch it, don't go to the demonstrations. Stay home!
BTW, ever since that engineer demonstated that you can hock a lugie full of COVID19 up to 27 feet, that 6 foot social distance doesn't really do what they want it to do..... then, indoors, it can get aloft in a large grocery store and travel from one side to the other, and back again....
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
TJ54 4/26/2020 10:04:48 AM (No. 392060)
I think Lucianne might want to consider giving Jonah the gong
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
Calamity Kate 4/26/2020 10:13:08 AM (No. 392069)
He really has become insufferable.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
Quigley 4/26/2020 10:21:55 AM (No. 392076)
He’s still infected. And getting worse. He thinks that Lincoln related quote is somehow apropos of the situation?
“But when you think about it, freedom is really the killer, not the virus. When we are free to work and play as we choose, we spread germs and pieces of virus. We must be free from such freedoms to have real security. Elections are too dangerous.” From “Big Thoughts From the Basement”, by Fredo of Corona Nation Network.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
whyyeseyec 4/26/2020 10:23:10 AM (No. 392077)
The Communist Chinese CCP Wuhan Virus is not the 2nd leading cause of death in the US. Not even close.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
zephyrgirl 4/26/2020 10:23:43 AM (No. 392078)
It saddens me that Jonah has gone the way he did. I don't know if it is TDS, elitism, or creeping leftism, but he's not the writer he used to be.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
marbles 4/26/2020 10:32:13 AM (No. 392088)
That " health care worker " in the street was a set up. Acknowledged by the woman in the car.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
Lucky5 4/26/2020 10:37:08 AM (No. 392091)
Hey Jonah and David French, how is that little website you started? It looks dead to me, but with a lot of negative articles about President Trump. It must be nice to have your own little blog to vent on.
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Reply 46 - Posted by:
kono 4/26/2020 10:41:27 AM (No. 392099)
I think Jonah is flat-out wrong about this (and other things). But it's gratuitously asinine to hurl demeaning statements at him right in front of his mom. I would expect that kind of hate from a Democrat.
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Reply 47 - Posted by:
RuckusTom 4/26/2020 10:44:50 AM (No. 392103)
And here comes Jonah.
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Reply 48 - Posted by:
edgar 4/26/2020 11:15:26 AM (No. 392142)
Nobody is trying to be a hero. We just want our life, liberty and freedom back. Stick it Jonah!
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Reply 49 - Posted by:
red1066 4/26/2020 11:39:02 AM (No. 392164)
Jonah's latest screed is called," Stay at home protesters are no Rosa Parks". He's right. The stay at home protesters are the Minute Men of our time.
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Reply 50 - Posted by:
Historybuff 4/26/2020 11:42:21 AM (No. 392171)
"My supervisor made it clear she doesn’t agree and other nurses have asked me to sign something that if i get sick with The Rona, I’ll waive care. "
#39, doesn't your supervisor believe that Health Care is a right?
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I really don’t understand. The guy who wrote liberal fascism? Isn’t this the quintessential fascist impulse he identified? Smiley face fascism: here to protect you from your selves. And now it’s just compassionate to be compliant. I guess I missed something.
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Reply 52 - Posted by:
Highvoltage 4/26/2020 12:06:35 PM (No. 392204)
It's time to take back our country from folks like Jonah. He has always been a no trumper. I've heard enough of his blather. Open the country now.
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Reply 53 - Posted by:
droopydog 4/26/2020 12:34:10 PM (No. 392238)
What happened Jonah? There has to be more to this story. Could you at least give us a clue?
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Reply 54 - Posted by:
janjan 4/26/2020 12:57:45 PM (No. 392266)
The so-called death toll from coronavirus is already being debunked State by State. The numbers were deliberately skewed to bring in more federal dollars. Our civil liberties weren’t just temporarily suspended. They were gleefully taken by Governors who were enthralled with their own power. Alas Jonah has gulped down the koolaid. Thankfully we don’t need his permission to exercise our 1st Amendment rights nor do we have any interest in his opinion. Perhaps he should extend his own quarantine.
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Reply 55 - Posted by:
Chuzzles 4/26/2020 1:11:44 PM (No. 392283)
Keep your TDS opinions to yourself Jonah. You are becoming tedious and tiresome with your sneering at the voters of this nation. Those protesters are fighting for something you will never understand, the constitution and the rights of citizens. Get out of your bubble and reconnect with the world outside NYC for a change. You really need it.
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Reply 56 - Posted by:
hershey 4/26/2020 1:43:14 PM (No. 392304)
Blah blah blah, bull, bull, bull...can't expect much else from National Review...not even worth picking up dog droppings with, and the gummint is partially funding them..nothing like paying the fox to guard the henhouse...stupid...
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Reply 57 - Posted by:
hershey 4/26/2020 1:50:44 PM (No. 392310)
Strange..he must be infected with something...his mother apparently is our Lucianne, believe it or not (per Wikipedia) and he has 'stats' as a conservative...
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Reply 58 - Posted by:
vinegrower 4/26/2020 3:36:42 PM (No. 392396)
Jonah this is completely irresponsible. The corona virus is not the 2nd leading cause of death and never will be. Heart disease and cancer hold the #1 and 2 spot of leading causes of death. Your Trump derangement syndrome has completely clouded your view on everything else in society. For a person who wrote eloquently about fascism I am dumbfounded as to your rejection of what is happening right now to the American people. Government is not supposed to prevent us from operating our businesses and therefore preventing us from pursuing life and liberty. A quarantine should include the vulnerable and the sick not the strong. The protestors are protected by the 1st amendment and I salute them.
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Reply 59 - Posted by:
LadyHen 4/26/2020 4:05:36 PM (No. 392419)
Jonah was far more sensible when his dog and sofa told him what to write.
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Reply 60 - Posted by:
doctorfixit 4/26/2020 4:11:59 PM (No. 392426)
Disgusting neo-con TDS Trump hater. . Get over yourself.
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Reply 61 - Posted by:
YorkieMom 4/26/2020 4:22:34 PM (No. 392437)
I would have thought Lucianne posters believed in the right to free speech and opinions. I do appreciate the thoughtful replies that differ with Jonah’s column. The ones who tell Jonah to get lost, or get in to the name calling sound just like the hateful left. I’m thankful for Lucianne ‘s website, and Jonah has the right to express his opinions because he is paid to do so. Just attacking the messenger is not an opinion. It’s a waste of bandwidth.
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Reply 62 - Posted by:
cheeflo 4/26/2020 4:28:54 PM (No. 392438)
I've seen that sentiment expressed by health care workers elsewhere on the web, #39. I am flabbergasted to think that anyone in that field would suggest withholding care from the sick and suffering for any reason, let alone for exercising their constitutional rights. It shakes my confidence in their commitment to their chosen vocation and utterly undermines their otherwise legitimate heroics. It's unconscionable.
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Reply 63 - Posted by:
Peeps 4/26/2020 7:06:42 PM (No. 392530)
Shut up, Jonah.
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Reply 64 - Posted by:
NotaBene 4/26/2020 9:01:34 PM (No. 392603)
Jonah is not fit to tie President Trump’s, or Stephen Moore’s, sandals.
Perhaps he likes the assassination imagery too much.
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Reply 65 - Posted by:
judy 4/26/2020 10:46:22 PM (No. 392658)
Where’s the outrage for prisoners being released??
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