As Trump rails against mail voting,
some allies embrace it
Associated Press,
by
Nicholas Riccardi
Original Article
Posted By: tisHimself,
4/11/2020 5:20:37 AM
President Donald Trump is claiming without evidence that expanding mail-in voting will increase voter fraud. But several GOP state officials are forging ahead to do just that, undermining one of Trump’s arguments about how elections should be conducted amid the coronavirus outbreak.
While Trump has complained that voting by mail is “ripe for fraud,” Republican state officials in Iowa, Ohio and West Virginia have all taken steps to ease access to mail-in ballots, following health officials’ warnings that voting in person can risk transmission of the deadly virus. The Nebraska’s Republican governor urged voters to apply for absentee ballots.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
globalwarmer 4/11/2020 6:12:05 AM (No. 375871)
The ass. press always knows where to find the RINOs.
52 people like this.
Reply 2 - Posted by:
DCGIRL 4/11/2020 6:14:25 AM (No. 375872)
In PA we now have mail in ballots as an option. People are not happy with our legislators for passing this. The bill was passed way before the virus and we all begged our representatives not to vote for it. Well they did and we are just waiting for the fraud to begin.
By the way, this is an AP article. AP is among the liberal militants that write fake news daily.
63 people like this.
Reply 3 - Posted by:
The Remnants 4/11/2020 6:21:18 AM (No. 375874)
Can you imagine what would happen to this country if someone other than Trump wins the coming Presidential election?
Trump is not Our Savior, but he was not afraid to mention the name of Jesus Christ in prayer on Good Friday. I have got to believe that this country's resurrection won't come about because of what some politician or technocrat wills for it.
His Will Be Done. Please God, help our country come back to life. Amen
66 people like this.
Reply 4 - Posted by:
Smoolie 4/11/2020 6:49:50 AM (No. 375890)
Fight this. Ranked Choice Voting was enacted in my state. The first election was stolen from the Republican. Who counts the votes matter, also how they are cast.
53 people like this.
Reply 5 - Posted by:
ARKfamily 4/11/2020 7:02:17 AM (No. 375896)
Absolutely not. If Obama is for it, I am against it. . .
60 people like this.
Reply 6 - Posted by:
F15 Gork 4/11/2020 7:07:07 AM (No. 375899)
It all began with Motor Voter and will end with tyranny.
69 people like this.
Reply 7 - Posted by:
NeverVoteDem 4/11/2020 7:35:48 AM (No. 375924)
I live in DC. I did not receive my absentee ballot in 2012 or 2016. I will vote in person this year. The Chinese flu will be long gone by November. KAG!
37 people like this.
Reply 8 - Posted by:
Krause 4/11/2020 7:36:27 AM (No. 375925)
There are way too many dishonest people (30%?) in this country to put up with no voter ID, mail-in voting (except in some specific cases), same day registration, etc. There is no need to 'drag' people into voting. I don't trust the current voting system.
35 people like this.
Reply 9 - Posted by:
Venturer 4/11/2020 7:40:06 AM (No. 375930)
It's nothing new for some Republicans not to listen to Trump.
But he is right. Those Republicans who don't listen will be gone due to their own ignorance.
Mail-In voting is a farce.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
NancyD 4/11/2020 7:41:58 AM (No. 375934)
What would prevent anyone from filling out a ballot for someone else? Of course there would be fraud! Only an IDIOT would think otherwise.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Muguy 4/11/2020 7:46:18 AM (No. 375939)
There are LAWS pertaining to our most cherished right as CITIZENS.
Therefore, only US CITIZENS should vote. Nobody would want to curb this right.
The problem comes when there are those who want to bend THE LAW to allow for persons who are not registered to vote, those who are NOT citizens, illegals, felons, those who have moved away or DEAD PEOPLE show up or attempt to vote against the laws on the books.
Photo ID can help stop this at the polling location, but when ballots are sent out to EVERYONE, and then even weeks AFTER the date of the election they are "harvested", this throw the reliability and the veracity of the vote into question.
After the votes have been cast, they are counted (provided they all come in from the polling places) and the week after, those that came in the mail are counted and then verified using certain criteria which proves they are valid, and then added to the election day totals. Most persons on that ballot board are WELL AWARE of the laws of the state regarding proofing the mail in ballots.
How do we KNOW FOR SURE that someone who might just have a mail-in ballot handy is not PAID to sell it to someone offering $$$ for it? How do we KNOW that Mr. Soros and his minions haven't been offering BOUNTY money for each vote "harvested"???
There should be no such thing as someone who is not named on the mailing label touching the ballot, and without proper ways to prevent FRAUD from happening, this should not stand--REGARDLESS OF PARTY affiliation
39 people like this.
Reply 12 - Posted by:
LadyHen 4/11/2020 8:22:17 AM (No. 375976)
Mail voting = perpetual Democrat tyranny
You can kiss the Constitution goodbye.
The morally bankrupt will not shy away from stealing that which they can not earn by the law. And then they will just make stealing the law to give themselves cover.
34 people like this.
Reply 13 - Posted by:
HotRod 4/11/2020 8:33:32 AM (No. 375983)
The allies of our enemy are not our allies! Absolutely no mail in voting! We already have absentee ballots for those who qualify, and even those need much better control and scrutiny. Democrats are criminals, and criminals will always find ways to cheat the system.
On the subject of mail-in ballots, how are officials to be able to recognize counterfeits? Most laymen can't detect counterfeit money, so ballots would be much easier to produce. Democrats would visit every cemetery and take names from headstones, then crank up the printing presses in democrat basements!
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Proud Texan 4/11/2020 8:38:29 AM (No. 375986)
This is just one more good reason the GOP is the "party of stoopid!" The DNC is the "party of evil!"
20 people like this.
Reply 15 - Posted by:
oldmagnolia 4/11/2020 9:22:45 AM (No. 376034)
Mail in is the only way the democrats can steal the election nationwide. They see the virus is not destroying the President. People want the country open again and the economy will rebound. Schiff for brains is starting another investigation. Short of murdering the President they have nothing left.
19 people like this.
Reply 16 - Posted by:
franq 4/11/2020 9:29:04 AM (No. 376046)
"...some..." Right out of the liberal press style book.
12 people like this.
Reply 17 - Posted by:
wakeupcall 4/11/2020 9:48:56 AM (No. 376062)
Is it really worth a little safety today by not having to vote in person with a picture ID, for a lifetime of servitude to Marxist Communist democrats harvesting fraudulent votes.
I remember around 20 years or so ago when several voting districts had 1,000's more votes counted than they had voting age populations. When the Republicans took their case before the courts the judges had the perfect answer for the Marxist Communist democrats. The judges simply asked the Republican complainants, 'which of these extra democrat or republican votes do you suggest the courts toss out as being fraud. We have no way of knowing which votes are real and which votes are fraud.'
The courts ruling was in all cases that all votes must be accepted and counted even the 1000's of extra votes in order to not disenfranchise any voters into thinking their vote did not count.
Naturally the Marxist Communist democrats won those districts by and overwhelming majority. That is how in most cases they get majority control over state governments, and once they do there is never any turning back to freedom from their majority tyranny and control over the voting process.
It is all the over 100 year plan to establish a One World Government of Marxist Communism control over the entire world which today they are calling 'A New World Order'. Marxist Communist Globalist brainwashed control over all people that they leave alive to work after they have reduced the world population to their sustainable world population of 1.5 to 2 billion people.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
MickTurn 4/11/2020 9:59:28 AM (No. 376077)
Lefties love any wan to subvert the voting process, name it and they've done it, the list is very long.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Chuzzles 4/11/2020 10:45:18 AM (No. 376107)
No, no a thousand times NO to vote by mail. Those idiot governors need to open their eyes and look at the states who have had this process for decades. But hey the Ryan led RINO's gave the House to the democrats, so I expect no less from them than trying to destroy out nation by giving the Presidency to Cuomo. You all know it is only a matter of time that Cuomo is gonna be announced as the real candidate for Fall. Either outright or as the VP, Cuomo is most likely the dark horse for the DNC.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Chuzzles 4/11/2020 10:48:12 AM (No. 376111)
I would say that voting this Fall is going to determine if we still have a nation left to live in. Put on a mask if you have to and vote as if your life and your family's lives depend on it. Believe me, it matters greatly. Because we cannot let a virus stop us from keeping our president in the WH.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
ARKfamily 4/11/2020 10:49:28 AM (No. 376113)
Sorry for the second posting but an additional comment. Cheaters always want easy. That is why Obama is promoting this idea.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
cold porridge 4/11/2020 10:59:13 AM (No. 376130)
Unfortunately, I live in Washington state. We have had vote by mail for years. That is the biggest reason the west side of the state always controls everything. It is also why they are able to find boxes of more ballots when they need to. It has happened at least twice in governor races, Why is it that whenever any precinct anywhere finds more ballots it always favors the democrats?
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Strike3 4/11/2020 11:19:45 AM (No. 376149)
"Without evidence." That's hilarious.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 4/11/2020 11:41:25 AM (No. 376180)
Switzerland votes by mail, and has no issue with it. That said, Switzerland is 1.5 times of the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex with population to match (8.3 million).
First off, you don't just stroll into the country and become a citizen. Suffice it to say they don't bestow citizenship easily, and mostly not at all. They know exactly where each Swiss citizen resides and they mail them a ballot. Once all the ballots are back they count the votes with Swiss precision. It is absolutely THE best form of voting for them however, it only works for THEM. Americans are far too sloppy, and corrupt to follow such rules. Sorry, it's best for us to have everything done in broad daylight for all to see.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 4/11/2020 11:43:43 AM (No. 376186)
Roney will be leading the way with Mitch encouraging it so he can prove he can govern in a bipartisan manner.
4 people like this.
Reply 26 - Posted by:
MindMadeUp 4/11/2020 11:57:57 AM (No. 376208)
"many in the GOP had warmed to mail-in voting"
Define "many". Three or four?
5 people like this.
Reply 27 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 4/11/2020 12:08:36 PM (No. 376231)
I don't consider the Associated Press to be a viable news source, and in the same category as the Commie News Network that plays every place there is a public TV.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
wakeupcall 4/11/2020 12:36:53 PM (No. 376271)
# 24 Rumblehog
How's that working out for the 420,000 Muslims or 5% of the population. Are they all voting for non Muslim politicians? Or are they even allowed to vote.
Under Islam, Muslims are only to vote for Muslims, but may vote for Muslim leaning politicians until a true Muslim candidate is available in a non Muslim controlled country.
Is Switzerland in agreement with the Muslim population on this?
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
czechlist 4/11/2020 12:43:17 PM (No. 376279)
My homebound nonagenerian mother has voted absentee for many years. I register her by mail and she fills her ballot and I mail it. I fear if she relied on a stranger caregiver to oversee the process there would be ample opportunity for her ballot to be mismarked or for it to never be mailed.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
BeatleJeff 4/11/2020 12:52:53 PM (No. 376293)
I could probably go along with allowing folks to request absentee ballots. But just mass mailing ballots to everyone on the voter rolls is a big NO. But understandable why the Rats would be all in on it. The rolls are loaded with the deceased, who you know would all faithfully vote straight line Rat on the ballot. It's why the Rats fight tooth and nail against removing the dead from the rolls.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
ag4lyf 4/11/2020 1:06:37 PM (No. 376315)
This is so disingenuous and is frustrating to see this issue so poorly debated by both pro and con sides. This article and many MSM herd want to equate mail in ballots and absentee ballots. They are not and the opponents never make the distinction thereby making the average person think, what is wrong with a reasonable option. That is exactly what they want!
Absentee ballots must be requested by a voter and an application filled out that verifies their identity before the vote is remitted. On the converse mail in ballots ( that dems and MSM) are pushing is to send every registered voter a ballot tegardless of a request and WITHOUT ANY ID VERIFICATION. The voter rolls in most states do not purge dead voters, have not ever verified if a registered voter is who they say they are, nor updated addresses. So a mass mailing of ballots to such a flawed list of voters will end up providing ballots to unknown individuals that happen to in a previous address of a deceased person, an illegal or ineligible person who lives at an address on the voter list, or ballots undeliverable and floating around for anyone to submit. It also allows partisan groups to hit up elderly homes and otherwise handicapped individuals to “ASSIST” in filling out their ballot. None of these situations will ever be caught as fraud.
These are just a few of the obvious bits of evidence the article snidely dismisses as without proof. Some things are just common sense.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
RedWhite&Blue2 4/11/2020 1:23:36 PM (No. 376341)
Ass press alert
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
Starboard_side 4/11/2020 1:30:39 PM (No. 376349)
How about linking any mail-in voting to proportional allocation of Electoral College votes.
No more winner-take-all by any State.
There are 435 House districts, and each is a EC vote.
Allow each Senator to cast their EC vote as they desire, likely partisan.
This would narrow the scope of any malfeasance, and it would likely motivate many who don't think their vote will matter since they live in a deep blue state, for instance, to cast a ballot.
But, all mail-in voting must be done by mail, have ZERO drop-off locations. Thus, someone can be prosecuted for mail fraud if they voted illegally.
Sadly, it's been proven Republican voters don't like to allow someone to "harvest" their vote, which make one wonder why Democrats don't seem to have similar reservations, unless many of those people don't realize they are actually voting.
Jury duty is generally pooled from voter registration rolls, but in California they had about 450,000 people state they could not serve on a jury due to ineligible.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
NotaBene 4/11/2020 1:38:05 PM (No. 376360)
Democrats want voter FRAUD because the ends justify the means.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
or gate 4/11/2020 2:38:29 PM (No. 376402)
Something has to be done.
Soros owns allot of voting machines.
Get them president Trump.
2 people like this.
Reply 36 - Posted by:
Chiritwo 4/11/2020 4:54:18 PM (No. 376515)
I really do have the right to have my count.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
Red Ghost 4/11/2020 5:26:41 PM (No. 376536)
First of all, I couldn't get past this moron talking about Trump's own suspicions about his own re-election. But, the most frightening thing is how we are so quickly surrendering our liberties in the face of the Chicom flu. It is happening with breathtaking speed and people see to be fine with it. I am very, very worried for the future of this Republic. More so now, than at any other time. We can ill afford the acquiescence of spaghetti spined Rhinos. As always, Trump is right on the money. I have counted absentee, mail in ballots. And three times, THREE SEPARATE ELECTIONS, some Democrat has shown up with another "bag" of votes they found in the trunk of their car. It is outrageous and it is always Democrats. The only way Dems can win is through fraud. And weeny Republicans will gladly help.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
4Justice 4/11/2020 6:49:38 PM (No. 376578)
This and Ballot Harvesting is EXACTLY how the Democrats stole California and made it into a monopoly for the Democrats. Now, no Republicans can get elected here even in areas that have always been Republican majority. The movement even began back when March Fong Eu was SOS of California. Eventually, the Dems started heavily gerrymandering (they even found ways to manipulate and bamboozle the new Citizen
Committee for Redistricting!), changing the election laws and manipulating the actual elections until they created a system where they can run completely unopposed. Now, the Dems are incrementally working in all the other states one at a time and nobody seems to notice!!! The frog is slowly boiling and soon it will be too late to save his life!!
5 people like this.
Reply 39 - Posted by:
Winstonian 4/11/2020 7:52:28 PM (No. 376622)
FTA: ..... following health officials’ warnings that voting in person can risk transmission of the deadly virus.
Can someone explain how multiple people handling paper is less risky than going to the polls.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
XCenturion 4/11/2020 9:49:27 PM (No. 376706)
All mail in ballots should include the thumbprint of the voter along with a copy of their ID.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
24tea@Mag 4/12/2020 1:47:35 AM (No. 376783)
No way do we want to vote but mail. Just another tool for Dems to cheat or lose ballots.
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