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For Peggy Noonan and her elitist pals…
here’s a little plainspeak for you

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Posted By: tisHimself, 10/20/2019 8:51:00 AM

So many of us with conservative leanings have long respected the prose and insight of Peggy Noonan, now a prominent Wall Street Journal columnist, but initially admired for her work as a Reagan speechwriter. But her recent columns show she’s come to exemplify the ruling class elitism that simply doesn’t grasp the groundswell in the American heart that elected Donald Trump president

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Gruntmedic 10/20/2019 8:56:44 AM (No. 212436)
I can't really take her writing style.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: olrtex 10/20/2019 9:13:20 AM (No. 212454)
Amen to this article. Just plain Amen.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: NWPA 10/20/2019 9:16:41 AM (No. 212459)
This is a good article that highlights many of the outrages the left has gotten away with. I don't care for Peggy: I specifically didn't vote for 41 because of her stupid "Thousand Points of Light" tripe. We need to support this important point from the article: I respect President Trump as a fighter and disrupter of an absolutely rotten, entrenched elite and I don’t care what he tweets in furtherance of calling these people out.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 10/20/2019 9:41:14 AM (No. 212491)
Noonan and prissy George Will are the leading practitioners of clutch-your-pearls journalism.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: mathman 10/20/2019 9:43:19 AM (No. 212493)
DO NOT forget. Noonan endorsed Zippy because he was clean and articulate. Past her use-by date. All her friends are deep State elites. Let her join MSNBC.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: ivehadit 10/20/2019 9:48:37 AM (No. 212498)
This is truly one of the best articles I have read laying out the #ColdAnger of those Americans paying attention/not being conned by Leftists/media PsyOps. It is 100% correct. Our spiritual and psychological boundaries have been violated for decades and, thankfully, many have come to realize this. Our president is healing our country(and the world)-a massive therapeutical intervention-and like all interventions there is great lashing out and gnashing of teeth from the culprits and those who have grown comfortable in the dysfunction. This article should be shared far and wide.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: walkingladyliberty 10/20/2019 10:18:31 AM (No. 212542)
Noonan wrote the most amazing book about President Reagan. That’s about the last thing she has written that is worth reading...but I do recommend this book. It’s “When Character Was King”
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 10/20/2019 10:50:23 AM (No. 212559)
For more than two decades - - Boozy Peggie has been writing with chardonnay in her fountain pen. Why would I ever want to read the sloshed ramblings of this washed-up hag?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: TunnelEffect 10/20/2019 10:57:52 AM (No. 212569)
Kudos and an upvote for #6. The article lays out the continual gaslighting by the government and media elites and captures the seething anger of us normals much better than usual. It recounts powerfully the parade of horribles from the Obama years to the present day. Do yourself a favor and read it all.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: StormCnter 10/20/2019 11:06:13 AM (No. 212575)
Much like Hillary Clinton's refusal to get over the 2016 defeat, Peggy Noonan has never recovered from being replaced as speech writer for George W. Bush. Her lyrical style fit perfectly with Ronald Reagan and her words wade some of his most memorable speeches. She also did some commendable writing for Vice-President George H. W. Bush. But she was totally unable to capture Dubya's speaking style and so she didn't get the job. She still holds a grudge.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Madinmaryland 10/20/2019 11:14:30 AM (No. 212584)
Amen, Amen. A must read, in my opinion. Author speaks the truth. Noonan is out of touch with the American people.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: passchendaele 10/20/2019 11:17:50 AM (No. 212590)
Peggy has never impressed me, even less so after she joined Journolist.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: whyyeseyec 10/20/2019 11:23:21 AM (No. 212595)
Wow, if Peggy reads this article I imagine she'll need an extra glass of whine.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: bigfatslob 10/20/2019 11:26:20 AM (No. 212597)
Peggy Noonan is still around? Wine for everyone!
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Reply 15 - Posted by: ToryWhite 10/20/2019 11:48:33 AM (No. 212622)
Recent?? Hardly. Noonan has been beating the anti-Trump drum, loudly, for over 2 years. Her writing hit the skids long before that. Actually, she was never a good writer, but a coy stylist, at best. And smart? No, not smart. Just another journo hanger on, mad because she can't get into the White House social scene anymore-but that was exaggerated, too. Strassel (a much nicer person) could have her for breakfast.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Rinktum 10/20/2019 12:18:26 PM (No. 212654)
FTA: “I despise the ruling class behavior of both parties in DC; I respect President Trump as a fighter and disrupter of an absolutely rotten, entrenched elite and I don’t care what he tweets in furtherance of calling these people out. Most Americans agree with this statement. We are sick of all the graft, corruption, lies and self-serving politicians who have one loyalty, themselves. The ruling class has ruined this country. While good hard working Americans were making a living and raising their children, they were busy lining their pockets and creating a system that is the antithesis of everything the Founders envisioned. Their vision was of citizen legislators going to Washington for a short season and then returning to their civilian lives. This entrenched political class and their bureaucratic lackeys have destroyed the idea of self-government. They are the ones responsible for the endless wars, loss of manufacturing jobs, crushing regulations, open border policies that is just wrong on so many levels, culture rot, stoking division among us, spying on private citizens, and these fake show trials that are used as a means to the unseat a duly elected President. You want corruption, look no further than the political class and the elites who worship at their feet. People have sold their souls for a chance to be among the in crowd. Noonan is a prime example of the elitism that permeates our society from the local school board to the highest offices in the land. There are always folks who will do or say anything to belong to the right group. While they consider themselves special, most Americans consider them drones with no core values. The problem we have now is that the elites have been revealed to be what they really are, nothing more than social climbing bots who believe they are above the law. The coming weeks and months will answer the question if we have a true Republic with a foundation rooted in the rule of law and equal justice under the law or if we have jettisoned those principles to be ruled by a self-serving political class. I would like to be confident that there are men and women in Washington with integrity and courage to make the right decisions but I am not. Prayer is my only weapon and like many Americans we are petitioning God to give this country one more chance. God help us fight the cancer that is the ruling class.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: HammerDax56 10/20/2019 2:10:55 PM (No. 212726)
Bravo!!! That’s me you hear applauding. So weary of the country club GOP.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: CactusStar 10/20/2019 2:27:03 PM (No. 212736)
So is Peggy a Rhinocerette?
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Reply 19 - Posted by: ladydawgfan 10/20/2019 4:24:46 PM (No. 212783)
Brilliant article!! Says everything that I agree with!! Peggy Noonan is so last century!!
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Reply 20 - Posted by: vinegrower 10/20/2019 4:43:52 PM (No. 212798)
This man just put to paper everything that I feel. I hope that the deplorables will rise up in anger if the Democrats actually follow thru with this craziness of impeachment. I fear we don't know how to rise up in anger the way the other side seems to be able to in an instant.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: tisHimself 10/20/2019 5:03:45 PM (No. 212807)
Game ball 16!
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 10/21/2019 7:17:55 AM (No. 213239)
Extremely well put, Eric. Nice smack down of Noonan. Might you be the guy to get everyone to put down their smart phones, remove the ear buds, divorce themselves from the msm, see what is happening to the country, and finally wake the hell up.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Deety 10/21/2019 7:32:12 AM (No. 213246)
There are two kinds of Republicans - one pretends to fight back and the other actually fights back. The latter put Donald Trump in the White House and the former are still trying to remove him. Stop pretending, Peggy. It demeans you and your formerly great work.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Lawsy0 10/21/2019 7:47:30 AM (No. 213259)
What a great and well stated article! Thank you for posting it. Eric has lived my life, or I have lived his! Countless times one of my parents would say, ''We only want better for you than we had.'' It was their secondary mantra. Their primary mantra for us three children was God, County, Family. Now, I appreciate ''the hell out of'' Eric's ''resenting the hell out of'' all the things the last two Democrat presidents have put us through. Dubya may have known what he was doing, but now I doubt it. My education into the 'political real world' began the day I clicked on www.Lucianne.com, and has continued forward. What a treasure for me that strangers found and posted articles I wouldn't have discovered except for this site. I first heard the term ''eternal ingenue'' in connection with Peggy Noonan in an 'under note' on the news forum's Must Read entries. But that was in the Way Back Machine when Prince Dubya was in charge. Happily, I have gotten smarter. Noonan has not.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Daisymay 10/21/2019 7:51:40 AM (No. 213264)
Great Article! Peggy always looks and speaks like she has had one two many Valiums! She speaks oh so softly, but I guess that's part of being the upper Class. What a Phony!
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Reply 26 - Posted by: kidsmom 10/21/2019 8:23:31 AM (No. 213287)
My thoughts egg-zackly. Well written article. I think the body snatchers took the Peggy I knew in the Reagan years and replaced her with a Peggy-pod. She's controlled by "them" now......sad.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: beca 10/21/2019 8:26:26 AM (No. 213290)
Read Noonan for years. When she started her snarky Trump remarks I stopped.. haven’t read anything for avery long time. Her columns will never interest me again .. Shame on you ..,
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Reply 28 - Posted by: beca 10/21/2019 8:27:39 AM (No. 213292)
This article was as good as it gets. TY. Take note Peggy.,,
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Reply 29 - Posted by: David Key 10/21/2019 8:34:10 AM (No. 213299)
I read the article and agreed with virtually all of its points, including the point about Peggy Noonan. I too have been disappointed with her consistent attacks on Trump. Her attitude puts me in mind of the Pharisee's straining at gnats and ignoring the beam in the eyes of the Democrats. That being said the mean spirited attacks on her and her character are in the least mean and in the most disgusting. She is entitled to her views and she has made no bones about how she feels about Trump. She is honest and could be kissing up to the right and pimping Trump for approval. I don't think that she is a closet liberal, I think she has reservations about Trump and his character, to be truthful so do I. She has never been the bare knuckle fighter and to expect her to be is unrealistic. I happen to think that what we on the right need is a bare knuckle fighter and we got one in Trump. I often had wished that the Bush's had been more willing to take of the gloves and give back as good as the Democrats gave. The object in politics is to win and to put your policies into force for the betterment of the country. One did not always come away with the feeling that the losing Republican candidates felt that way, sadly neither did the ones who won the presidency.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: ARKfamily 10/21/2019 9:05:24 AM (No. 213331)
Very good article from beginning to end. Take the time to read every word.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: ARKfamily 10/21/2019 9:10:53 AM (No. 213343)
I've enjoyed all of the comments but thank you, #16. Like the article, your comments hit home too.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: starboard 10/21/2019 9:13:56 AM (No. 213347)
Peggy Noonan is a has been who gets a paycheck from MSNBC. Her flowery words are insignificant anymore.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: qr4j 10/21/2019 9:37:23 AM (No. 213379)
When Noonan wrote about Ronald Reagan or 9/11/2001, her words were powerful and uplifting. She went wobbly on George W. Bush when he was trying to execute the War on Terror. Her words stopped being to uplifting and rather quite the opposite. Then she went soft on Obama, so I stopped reading her. I believe Noonan lives in a bubble that excludes many rank-and-file Americans. She isn't the only once-conservative writer like that. If she wanted to re-connect with the rank-and-file, she would have to pierce through the bubble and be open to other ways of life. All of those bubbled writers would have to do so. I am not saying they would have to change their opinions, but it would be nice if they at least understood other people better.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: JohnReid56 10/21/2019 9:42:00 AM (No. 213385)
When I saw her name on the invitee list to Bilderberg, I knew she had sold out. Her early writings always showed a touch of her upbringing; working class Irish girl who put herself thru college. She understood the working class. Sadly, the Jersey girl's forgotten where she came from.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Jebediah 10/21/2019 9:51:29 AM (No. 213392)
I used to like Peggy Noonan. I used to READ Peggy Noonan. (A friend and I nicknamed her Bubbles, for obvious reasons re: her prose style.) But I never bother to read her anymore....she is so anti-Trump in her cuddly way, and doesn't even seem to see her bias......not liking Trump the man with his Twitters and boasts (who does?) but also not acknowledging the things he has accomplished that have made such a difference. This is one big editorial place weekend section I don't even bother with, though I read everything else, even when negative to Trump.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: donnaclaire 10/21/2019 9:56:00 AM (No. 213398)
Great article. Have always found Noonan to be snootily dramatic. Not someone I'd want to 'follow' even if I agreed with everything she said.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: Sarr 10/21/2019 10:09:44 AM (No. 213411)
I don’t think Peggy can be reached on an intellectual honesty level because elites like her surround themselves with other elites in and stay in a bubble. I would give an eye tooth to have her go to someplace like West Virginia with me to see how people LOVE President Trump and she could get a taste of what other Americans think of our President. I said before in a remark many years ago when Peggy went to the dark side that I would like to know where her real friends are, where is her family when she writes articles like this. The answer is what I said above. She, along with her family and friends, live in a bubble.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: little guy 10/21/2019 10:21:29 AM (No. 213429)
A most excellent article! Really good comedians change their routine to meet the times and their changing audience. That is why Bob Hope, Johnny Carson, Don Rickles, etc. stayed on top of their game. Mort Sahl never changed his boring stand-up routine and soon became unemployed. The same idea holds with the Smothers Brothers. This is also true for "social commentators". As the times change, you need to do that too. Otherwise you get stuck and soon turn into an unfunny scold. Just like Peggy has! She sounds like an old grouch who isn't being listened to anymore. "You darn kids get off my lawn!" --- as she shakes her cane in rage.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: iamshazzam 10/21/2019 11:06:09 AM (No. 213471)
eggy Who-nan? So engulfed in the deep state, along with Will. Rove, and a few others. They are clutching to anything to try and keep themselves relevant. I bet people like Romney cause a tingle up her leg. I just Pray that President Trump will continue to expose and destroy the deep state and all the rino's involved.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: KanCreeper 10/21/2019 11:23:17 AM (No. 213491)
Just a note [and a BIG Thanks, to ANOTHER L'DOTTER!!]... For some time, I've been getting more and more disgusted with the so-called, various political commenters that seem to rise to the top, like soap scum... There was a comment posted in another L-com Thread that voiced similar feelings to mine above.. That other Poster mentioned a URL for a website that was a Conservative alternative to 'The Drudge Dredge Report': https://thelibertydaily.com/ After 'surfing' the "Liberty Daily" I was fascinated by their aggrigation and 'Drudge-style' set-up...The following headline really hooked me! The headline read: "...Clinton Pawn: Buttplug Refuses To Say Gabbard Is Not A Russian Agent..." After reading, and feeling that I had been introduced to an alternative to what Matt Drudge and what his drudge, dredge has become...I erased him from my tool bar, in favor of this new 'Conservative' resource.... Thanks to that other L'Dotter! :)
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Reply 41 - Posted by: Arby 10/21/2019 11:34:02 AM (No. 213499)
Peggy lives in New York and is now so completely awash in the local lunacy that she has become detached from conservative reality. She probably is also intensely concerned that she not be excluded from cocktail and dinner party invitation lists.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: udanja99 10/21/2019 12:34:19 PM (No. 213566)
Thanks #40, just checked it out - love it!
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Reply 43 - Posted by: Imperator CF 10/21/2019 3:09:36 PM (No. 213710)
Her and Rove having a weekly column at the WSJ Op-ed page tells you all you need to know re; whats wrong with the GOP establishment; they never ever learn and they never move on....faux intellectual tree sloths
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An appeals court in New York ruled against President Donald Trump Monday, rejecting the President’s bid to protect his tax returns from zealous New York City prosecutors. A three-judge appeals panel for the United States Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit issued the unanimous decision, taking pains to refuse the President’s argument that his status provides him absolute immunity from grand jury investigations of criminal conduct that allegedly occurred before his election, according to USA Today. Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr. is seeking eight years of Trump’s financial records from third party banks
Clinton ally Sidney Blumenthal
reportedly tried
to kill Russia 'scandal' book
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Posted by M2 11/4/2019 6:32:50 AM Post Reply
A Clinton family ally reportedly tried to stop the publication of a book about a "deep state" plot to undermine President Trump. Sidney Blumenthal, who was an outside political adviser to Hillary Clinton, claimed investigative journalist Lee Smith's new book was defamatory and sent threatening letters to publisher Center Street, a division of Hachette Book Group, according to a Fox News source. But the source said the publisher's legal team found the threat to be "meritless," and the book, The Plot Against the President: The True Story of How Congressman Devin Nunes Uncovered the Biggest Political Scandal in U.S. History, was released on Tuesday.
Katie Hill Affair and its Aftermath
are Signs of America’s Decline
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Posted by Magnante 11/4/2019 5:42:24 AM Post Reply
It’s truly not shocking that a political leader would be a reprobate behind closed doors. From Caligula to the Marquis de Sade to Bill Clinton, the depraved have always been overrepresented among the ruling classes. It is for this reason that what’s even more distressing about the Katie Hill affair than what she did is the reaction to it from the broader society — including “broadminded conservatives” defending her. Hill, the former Democrat congresswoman whose resignation from office took effect Nov. 1, certainly is our time’s Thoroughly Modern Millie
Inside the Republican Plan to Deep-Six
the Trump Impeachment Hearings
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Posted by MissMolly 11/4/2019 4:51:18 AM Post Reply
As House Democrats ramp up their impeachment push, their adversaries on the Republican side are preparing to unleash a counter-push to disrupt impeachment proceedings, discredit the whistleblower, and interrogate every person the whistleblower spoke with. In a show of unity, House Republicans unanimously voted on Thursday against a resolution recognizing the framework of the impeachment inquiry and outlining its next phase. Though that resolution passed, it was a chance for the GOP to lock arms on the proceedings and beat back lingering questions over just how committed Hill Republicans are to risk their political hides in defense of the president.
Understanding Schiff 15 replies
Posted by erudite angel 11/4/2019 11:41:44 AM Post Reply
Tessa Stuart, in her 2018 Rolling Stone, weirdly titled puff piece, “How the House Intelligence Committee Collapsed on Adam Schiff. The inside story of the California Democrat’s failed crusade to investigate Donald Trump” begins with an anecdote. She writes: “Here’s some advice,” says Hardball host Chris Matthews. It’s 6:30 p.m. on a Wednesday in MSNBC’s Washington, D.C., greenroom. Rep. Adam Schiff, who just wrapped up an appearance on The Beat With Ari Melber, is getting his TV makeup wiped off, while Matthews offers some political wisdom to Schiff’s deputy communications director. “You’ve got to say something that leads to impeachment,” Matthews urges. “Anything. That’s the business we’re in.”
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