Candidates edge toward discussing slavery reparations
Yahoo News,
by
Kadia Tubman
Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog,
4/4/2019 9:09:03 AM
In the past few decades, the racial wealth gap doubled. African-Americans are incarcerated at more than 5 times the rate of whites. They die at a higher rate than white Americans. And their homeownership has reached record lows. These disparities can be traced back to centuries of slavery and subsequent generations of oppression under Jim Crow. And reparations, repairing the harm done by slavery, have been sporadically pitched for years as a way to acknowledge, apologize and compensate descendants of slaves for past and continuing harms. “Compensation can be anything that helps people of African descent in this country build
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Foont 4/4/2019 9:17:28 AM (No. 22984)
Reparations are acceptable so long as once made the account is now PAID IN FULL. This means that ALL civil rights acts, welfare programs, affirmative action and racial quotas are repealed and ended.
It appears what these people are discussing is not "reparations" at all but a form of endless tribute to be paid on top of all the trillions already paid in the effort to make Blacks into normal American citizens (which efforts, based upon the endless carping and complaining of these same Blacks, have failed miserably).
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
jar 4/4/2019 9:18:41 AM (No. 22990)
With the "one drop" theory, untold people who always considered themselves "white" could be in for a bonanza, assuming the reparations deal passed Congress.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
chance_232 4/4/2019 9:18:49 AM (No. 22965)
They know that they cant win without the black vote. And with Trump getting record black support, the dems are desperate to get them back. Their mistake is assuming that all Black Americans will turn out to vote for them. But it will guarantee a higher turn out by the "give me" class.
An easy counter to this would be to address the tax paying middle class Black voters, by reminding them that THEIR taxes will be paying for this. They may get a check, but Uncle Sam will take it all back one paycheck at a time.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
aasilver 4/4/2019 9:35:06 AM (No. 22972)
...as long as descendants of dead Union soldiers are also given reparations.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
WAN2 4/4/2019 9:44:09 AM (No. 22996)
Robbing from Peter to pay Paul will always get Paul´s vote.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 4/4/2019 9:44:50 AM (No. 22988)
There is not one person still living who was a slave. The last such person, Sylvester Magee, died in 1971.
If we are going back 400 years to offer reparations, how about us poor picked upon Scots-Irish citizens? We´ve had our share of troubles also. Want to talk slavery? Egypt enslaved Jews and are still proud of it.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
MOBeef4u 4/4/2019 9:45:32 AM (No. 22994)
“Once you pay the Danegeld, you never get rid of the Dane.” From the poem “Danegeld” by Kipling.
When the extortion is made legal it will never end.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Condor44 4/4/2019 9:46:30 AM (No. 22976)
Since slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow Laws, were instituted by the dems, I suggest that the DNC fund reparations.They can pay it out of the national organizations funds, the State organizations funds, and also charge every registered dem a portion of the cost.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Pearson365 4/4/2019 9:47:00 AM (No. 22977)
If federal govt can take money from me for reparations, would it also be allowed to seize my home for a black family to eliminate the black homeownership deficit?
Under same logic, should whites be incarcerated for minor offenses such as jaywalking to offset high rates of black incarceration for murders, rapes and robberies? Should we also withhold medical care from white Americans so that they die faster?
Reparations only make sense if the funds are placed in trust for the victims of the extraordinary levels of black on white and black on black on black crimes. For ex,, black males between 15 & 25 comprise just 2% of our society but account for over 50% of all murders. These killings aren’t caused by slavery, which ended in 1863, but by a pathological problem in a specific race.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
TLCary 4/4/2019 9:55:36 AM (No. 22978)
When the time comes for White Americans to pay the fine and Black Americans to each the check... That day I´m identifying as Black. A Black Woman, A Black Man, A Black Something In-Between... what ever gets the biggest check.
That´s how it´s done, right?
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
MainelySane 4/4/2019 10:01:51 AM (No. 22981)
If I self-identify as an Afro-American can I write myself a check and call it "good"?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Jethro bo 4/4/2019 10:05:32 AM (No. 22967)
With Trump making inroads with minorities, Democrats are getting more desperate to buy votes. This isn´t reparations. This is vote buying pure and simple.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
vetposter 4/4/2019 10:06:04 AM (No. 22975)
Just curious, do black folk ever stop looking for free stuff?
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Namma 4/4/2019 10:06:10 AM (No. 22992)
Leave it to the demokkkrats to divide the country more then ever.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 4/4/2019 10:07:04 AM (No. 22973)
Two issues - - who should pay and who should receive?
• Should the payees include persons whose families were not even in this country when slavery existed?
• Should the payees include descendants of those who led, fought, died, were maimed, and/or were impoverished in the fight against slavery?
• Should the payees include Hispanics, Asians, and Native Americans?
• Should the payees included fourth, fifth, and sixth generation descendants of actual slave owners?
• Should the recipients include blacks whose families were not even in this country when slavery existed?
• Should the recipients include black billionaires and millionaires?
• Should the recipients include blacks who have received government benefits - - sometimes for generations?
Just a few of the questions I´d like to see answered.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
red1066 4/4/2019 10:08:53 AM (No. 22964)
They can discuss it all they want. It ain´t gonna happen.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
tnorling 4/4/2019 10:26:25 AM (No. 22980)
Welfare queens, affirmative action, section 8, Obama phones... don´t count as reparations? Wasn´t there a scandal with Obama where reparations were handed out to farmers? Having fought a Civil War over ending slavery, I think the debt has been paid. Would blacks rather be sitting in front of a mud hut in Africa? That can be arranged.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
flybynight 4/4/2019 10:30:19 AM (No. 22986)
Doesn’t much matter if checks are ever cut. Just proclaiming ireparations to be a good and righteous thing is enough to secure the gimme vote. It’s all a show, just like TSA security theater is demonstrably expensive, invasive, and useless. It sounds good, though, so silly sheeple FEEL safer, and that’s what matters. The socialists talk a good Robin Hood line, stealing from the rich and giving to the poor, forgetting who already pays most of the nation’s bills. Idiots never heard of TAANSTAFL. There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
JunkYardDog 4/4/2019 10:31:59 AM (No. 22985)
How will you ever be able to trace those of slave descent? What about all the people who´ve emigrated since the Civil War? Of course, this is a ridiculous proposal, meant to pander to those who are too easily persuaded to believe their own personal shortcomings must be the fault of someone else. What about the cost of all the Union soldiers who died to free the slaves? The slaves were free to go anywhere they wanted-even back to Africa. That wasn´t enough? Sure it was.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Twinkle93 4/4/2019 10:46:45 AM (No. 22966)
The record you Black ownership of homes has to do with the the drop in Black two parent households. This goes back to the welfare program passed in the mid-1969´s by the dems and LBJ.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
jacksin5 4/4/2019 10:55:56 AM (No. 22969)
What´s next? Turning the country back over to the Native American Tribes, and everyone else has to leave? After all Fair is Fair/s
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
PESSIMIST 4/4/2019 11:14:42 AM (No. 22989)
I am unaware that slavery existed recently, or in fact not since 1865 or so. Then we had the Civil Rights Acts of 1964 and 1968 to make up for the failure of whites to have acted decisively in the aftermath of the Civil War. If black Americans, in the aggregate, are slipping so badly "in the past few decades," mightn´t we blame something other than "centuries of slavery," or even the failure of the First Reconstruction?
Just asking.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
TLCary 4/4/2019 11:18:50 AM (No. 22970)
"These disparities can be traced back to":
Today´s Social Behavior of the American Black Culture.
Want to go back further to find out what causes today´s disproportionate criminality and irresponsibility? You will find consistent statistics for Black Communities around the world, (especially in Africa). So if there is a tragic historical event that caused today´s problems, it happened before 1776.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
bobn.t 4/4/2019 11:28:18 AM (No. 22987)
Pandering to the negros.
Bagging for votes.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
gramma b 4/4/2019 11:46:30 AM (No. 22995)
Why should "reparations" be based on the differing objective outcomes of two cultures which have been different since the beginning of recorded history? Perhaps someone should do a study of how much better off the average American Black is than the average African Black, and base "reparations" on that. I suspect American Blacks would end up paying American Whites.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
gorzabozo 4/4/2019 11:53:55 AM (No. 22983)
Question: Who could write such drivel?
Answer: https://www.yahoo.com/author/kadia-aretha-tubman/
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
JrSample 4/4/2019 2:40:49 PM (No. 22999)
The wealth gap, incarceration rate, and low homeownership rates among blacks have nothing to do with slavery. They are results of the high out-of-wedlock birth rate, widespread drug usage, and criminal activity.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
bighambone 4/4/2019 2:51:07 PM (No. 22971)
It is the leftist and liberal Democrats again attempting to hype up the low information Black population to vote for them. That happens before just about every presidential election. This time around some are claiming to be in favor of all “marginalized” peoples now in the USA, not just Black people, being eligible for reparation payouts.
In reality the Black population has received reparations since at least the 1960’s when liberal Democrat President Lyndon Johnson started his so-called “Great Society” social welfare and all sorts of other government directed policies and programs that have cost the taxpayers over a trillion dollars; while being the cause of running Black fathers out of family relationships and settings thus destroying a huge percentage of traditional Black family structures, to the point that about 3/4 of all Black babies are born out of wedlock, with many Black woman essentially becoming “Baby Mamas” for several different Black men with no prospect of ever marrying for the long-term.
When you listen to the politicians who are now pitching reparations during the upcoming election cycle, what they are saying is that the Black population is worse off economically then ever before, and that the only answer is for the Black population is to keep voting for the Democrats, and for them to not listen to President Trump, who has created an economy with more jobs then there are American workers including Black American workers to fill them, and has brought the Black American unemployment rate down to the lowest level in history.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
udanja99 4/4/2019 3:23:41 PM (No. 22979)
Between the hundreds of thousands of men who died to end slavery and the $23 Trillion paid out in entitlements over the last 55 years, I’d say that we have given out more than enough reparations.
If blacks want all the advantages that they claim whites have they need to: clean up their culture, get rid of the entitlement attitude, drop the hatred, get an education, quit having children out of wedlock, make their baby daddies marry the baby mamas, get off their arses and work for a living, give up the entitlements and become responsible for themselves and their own futures.
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"African-Americans are incarcerated at more than 5 times the rate of whites"..... because they commit crimes at five times the rate of whites.
And what kind of name is Kadia Tubman? I have my suspicions.... Would she have an agenda? A racist agenda?
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
Penney 4/4/2019 3:44:17 PM (No. 22993)
History cannot be changed but the future for a brighter future for all Americans can be destroyed by socialist zealots. They always use the same playbook and always get the same disastrous results.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
ZeldaFitzg 4/4/2019 4:05:49 PM (No. 22998)
LBJ´s real attitude on race, the Civil Rights Act, and the Great Society programs can be found here, in Snopes.com, which usually comes down on the liberal side.
Re LBJ I immediately think of remark to two Southern governors: "I´ll have these n-rs voting Democratic [sic: Democrat] for two hundred years." Snopes says this statement is unproven, but goes on to list many serious LBJ statements and attitudes that are equally revealing. One of the persons quoted is Doris Kearnes Goodwin.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lbj-voting-democratic/
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
TheRevJMP 4/4/2019 4:09:38 PM (No. 22974)
As my brother-in-law once said, "We already have reparations. It´s called the NBA."
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
JimBob 4/4/2019 4:51:55 PM (No. 22968)
I DEMAND REPARATIONS!
All my adult life I have been targeted by all the Affirmative Action laws and regulations. These regulations, full of mumbo-jumbo about ´underrepresented groups´ are aimed to Discriminate for Blacks, for Females, for every fringe minority that the leftists can dream up.
In the process of Discriminating FOR all these other groups, the Government DISCRIMINATES AGAINST ME, a regular working "EEEVIL White Male". Yes, one of the people who makes this Nation FUNCTION!
ENOUGH of the DISCRIMINATION Against ME and MY Culture!
I DEMAND REPARATIONS!
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HR40. Here we go again. Not my fault if you can´t control yourselves. Nor do I approve of criminal records es-ponged.
There are no living slaves or slave owners.
Affirmative Action paid really well including retirement benefits. And let US not forget the Pigford Settlement.
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