The EV Bubble Is About to Burst

"EVs don’t dramatically reduce greenhouse gas emissions due to the reliance on conventional hydrocarbons, like coal and natural gas, to power their batteries and charging stations." The Left has two problems with their EV stance. The first is that CO2 has a VERY dubious impact on "warming" which is NOT progressing as the Left has predicted. The second is the above quote from the article. In summary, the PROBLEM they suppose is NOT credible and their SOLUTION doesn't work to address the fake problem AND is a lousy replacement for the capability of ICE vehicles. That leaves their whole platform exposed as what it really is, SUPPRESSION of INDUSTRIALIZED SOCIETY, especially in the US. "gasoline fueling is simple, cheap, and widely accessible. EV charging stations are not." And the reason for that is simple economics. One gas pump can service 12 customers per hour (5 min each to fill up). EVs (Level 2, the most common) can take 4 - 10 hours. For a midpoint 7 hours to serve ONE customer, a gas pump could service 84 $$customers$$. Assuming the same profit for a "fill up" that's 84 times the profit. Beyond that, it is insane to think that someone is going to hang out at a charging station for 7 hours. Practicality limits your travel distance to ONE charge of travel. Then, if you are on a business trip and arrive with almost no charge, how do you go see your customers? Many people travel with 2 drivers and cover 10 to 12 hours of travel in an ICE vehicle. That's impossible with an EV. This doesn't even consider the logistics of finding charging stations; are they along your route or do you have to hunt for them as a side trip? The article states correctly that individuals should have the choice of an EV, however, without the mandates, how many new charging stations will be built? Will currently available ones remain operational? If your EV is a commuter vehicle and you have a charging station at home, you are good to go. Otherwise, it becomes a dubious endeavor to count on EV support infrastructure in the future, especially if your EV is your only vehicle.

We can thank Trump for popping the bubble. By not forcing car companies to reach mile-per-gallon corporate targets they're free to build and sell the cars people really want.

I have used evs for years. They are called golf carts. I have one for my lake community that's perfect for riding around the lake and fishing. One member has a gas powered one but you have to treat the fuel every year to keep it from turning to jelly in cold weather. I saw one other gas-powered one on a long mountainous course where it might have been more useful since the many hills probably discharged an electric one too quickly. Evs now are like using pliers to change the spark plugs on your car instead of a plug wrench. It might eventually work but it's a hard way to go about it.

Re #3. Only diesel fuel 'turns to jelly in cold weather". I suspect that your friend is actually treating fuel to keep it from deteriorating and causing corrosion damage in the carburetor. I would suggest to your friend that if he purchases NO ETHANOL gasoline it is far more shelf stable. The key problem with ethanol gasoline in unsealed fuel systems, like a golf cart or any small engine...chain saw, riding mower, etc. is that ethanol pulls a LOT of water out of humid air and this water becomes corrosive inside the fuel tank and carb. And the vehicle will not run with water in the carb. No ethanol gas doesn't pull water in from the air and also doesn't deteriorate as rapidly from 'aging'. Modern gasoline is made up of a literal witches brew of miscellaneous hydrocarbons, many of them waste products from various chemical industry processes. A friend is a chemical engineer who used to work for Love's gas station chain at their HQ. His job was doing experimental work to decide how much of a particular waste product hydrocarbon that could be bought super cheap from a chemical company can be mixed into gasoline and maintain proper legal octane and other properties. It's pollution to dump it, so how does the chemical company get rid of these waste streams? They sell them cheap to gasoline companies who blend them into gasoline and sell them. They are burned up in cars and do something useful. BUT.....they make gasoline more 'reactive', meaning it wants to turn in to varnish and sludge a lot sooner than gasoline used to do. Gasoline from the 70s and even 80s would easily store for two to four years without any problems. Today's gasoline with ethanol can absorb enough water to damage small engines when in vented fuel tanks in a few months, and can deteriorate into marginal usefulness in a year due to varnish formation. Adding products like Stabil help keep the gasoline from deteriorating. I suspect that this is what your friend is adding, although there are other products which claim to stabilize gas. IME, they work very much less effectively than Stabil. No ethanol gas helps a LOT in avoiding problmes in small engines. I've had no carb trouble with my three mowers, two chainsaws, weed trimmer, etc for years since we switched to no ethanol in all small engines. Automotive fuel systems are totally sealed, so the gasoline can't absorb water from the air like a normal small engine vented tank system can.

Putting aside that EV's have driven prices up, tires last half as long, insurance has doubled, no charging stations, takes hours to charge. Now we have 84 month loans. And this from mechanic reviews: stop start vehicles that shut off every stop, vehicles that require continuing software updates and subscriptions, 2 to 3 times the sensors that increases the failure of those sensors 2 to 3 times. Because of the out of control price increases, the vehicle quality 2019 has tanked. The government has made a mess of the car industry, or should I be more specific. The socialists have destroyed the car industry.

Thanks, #4. I just knew he said he had to treat it with something every fall so he wouldn't have a problem the next spring. I have a charger in the cart's little shed and at least don't have to worry about the fuel. Maybe have to change the batteries every few years and that may be my fault in not making sure the water levels stay full. It's 13 years old and I may have had to call 'the guy' a couple of times. I used to race sports cars but, at almost 84, my mechanic days are over.

Noted comments above. All reasons I hang on to a 18 year old Chevy, and a 25 year old Benz. New cars have always been a bad investment, but now even more so.

It started with the CAFE laws and went from there. Now we all drive egg looking vehicles.

Anybody who bought into this obvious scam, manufacturers, dealers or customers for reasons other than the curious desire to own a battery powered car just to tool around town, need to go bankrupt.

I agree with the author, as well as all of the above. However, one important thing was left out. The last I heard, the mining and manufacturing of lithium batteries adds the equivalent of 80K ICE pollution to each EV. Also, the lithium batteries are not recyclable and the replacement cost is just about the price of a new car. Not only do tires last half as long (and contribute to pollution), brakes wear out faster and also add extra pollution. Finally, the extra weight of the EVs because of their batteries make them harder on roads. What's not to like about EVs?

California cannot regulate interstate commerce. The sale of both EV automobiles and gasoline automobiles is interstate commerce. The federal government can easily forbid California from banning gasoline automobiles. The EPA has already removed California's basis for developing their own emission regulations. The climate change threat is a very long running hoax that has cost this country billions if not trillions of dollars.

Ironically, ICE vehicles could easily reach the new mandated standard averages if all of the government-mandated junk on today's new cars was stripped out and cars became efficient driving machines again. Unfortunately, the lawyers who specialize in airbag injuries would go out of business or be forced to cover something useful.

They should call it the California Advanced Clean Automobiles II, or, CACA.

As poster #4 and others have pointed out - Ethanol does a a lot of damage to our cars' engines. So in addition to the EV bubble collapse, how about the Ethanol collapse? Oh wait - gotta keep a lot of corn farmers in Iowa fat and dumb sitting on their farms growing a food crop to turn into a gasoline additive that we just do not need. And would someone tell the USDA, Sec. Rollins and others in the Trump Admin - stop with the biofuels nonsense. It's a niche energy source that should have zero tax payer support. Just like wind and solar. You want it - pay for it yourself.

I always purchase NON-Ethanol for my cars and small engines, it is $0.25~45 more per gallon but after replacing carburetors and fuel system components on every small engine (snow blower, tiller, cement mixer, jumping jack, lawn mower, chainsaw, ATV's the extra for NON-Ethanol gas is worth it. I have electric leaf blower, chainsaw and weed whacker now since it was cheaper to buy electric then replace the carburetor or I couldn't purchase a replacement carburetor.

The Townhall article is good. This Lucianne discussion is even better. Thanks to all L'dotters.