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The Unreported Story Of Grid Scale Battery Fires

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Posted By: Christopher L, 12/30/2025 1:15:23 PM

The geniuses who are planning New York’s energy future think that they can make intermittent wind and solar generators work to power the electrical grid by the simple device of providing some battery storage. The idea is that when there is abundant wind and sun, they can store up the power for use during those calm and dark periods in the winter. How much battery storage will that take? It’s a simple arithmetic calculation, but none of our supposed experts have taken the trouble to crunch the numbers.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Anaverageguy 12/30/2025 1:27:34 PM (No. 2047127)
In related news; A 30 acre site is going to be developed in the area for a Unicorn farm for capturing unicorn flatulance to generate additional green electricity...
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Reply 2 - Posted by: billsv 12/30/2025 1:33:27 PM (No. 2047128)
Nothing like coal and gas power plants. Lots of rare earth minerals in coal ash
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Reply 3 - Posted by: hershey 12/30/2025 2:03:29 PM (No. 2047136)
They haven't 'crunched' the numbers because they can't add two and two and get four...
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Californian 12/30/2025 2:49:00 PM (No. 2047155)
Solar+batteries as a supplement to main sources isn't an issue but replacing steady sources of reliable power with batteries and solar is idiotic. Forget the environmental damage. I don't care about that. Forget about the cost. All infrastructure worth having is expensive. Forget about fires. That's a trivial distraction. The killer here is these projects all use lithium based batteries which have a 5-10 life span depending on how much they're used and the temperature during use and recharge cycles. So, forgetting all those other minor issues, the entire battery infrastructure will have to be replaced every 10-15 years (best case). Which is insane. Imagine if we replaced gas, coal and nuclear plants every 15 years. This isn't just maintenance. This is complete replacement of a key part of the infrastructure. If we're going to use batteries for long term infrastructure we need either next gen solid state batteries or first gen Edison batteries from 100+ years ago which last 50-100 years before they start to fall apart. But those are super cheap to make with easily available elements like iron so no one will look at those. No big money to be made with iron based ancient tech batteries.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Strike3 12/30/2025 4:03:51 PM (No. 2047178)
Wind in most areas is unpredictable beyond a few days and areas that suffer over a couple of hundred days with little or no sunshine are just plain out of luck. There is a bright spot though, when California turns itself into a barren wasteland populated by Zombies, they have plenty of both resources. The South will probably fare better as I learned this year from my solar landscaping lights. When it's above 60 degrees and there are more hours of sunshine in a day, they stay lit until morning but when it gets cold like it is now, they turn off around 1:00 am or earlier.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Californian 12/30/2025 5:08:46 PM (No. 2047191)
5, I'm in the south. My solar gets some power starting around 9am but doesn't really get going until 10am. By 3pm it's back down a lot and pretty dead by 4pm. It's nice to have a zero -average- power bill but it's not a good full year round grid replacement.
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