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Wind Power: Not the Utopia We Were Sold On

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Posted By: Hazymac, 10/26/2025 8:27:40 AM

Wind power has been sold to us as an environmental utopia, with lower costs, but ends up being nothing of the sort in practice. With the aid of government subsidies, we are putting up electric generating windmills all over the place. Such subsidies include the Production Tax Credit (PTC), which, according to the Institute for Energy research (IRER), provides a per-kilowatt-hour tax credit for electricity generated by qualified wind projects; and the Investment Tax Credit (ITC), which provides a tax credit based on the investment made in renewable energy projects, including wind. According to IRER, trillions are being invested here. The United States, under the Biden-Harris climate bill,

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Reply 1 - Posted by: chance_232 10/26/2025 9:07:17 AM (No. 2021708)
I spent a lot of time researching wind and solar for residential use. Wind was by far more costly effective. But, you need a 7 mph constant wind to move the impeller. Making it impractical if you don't live at elevation, in a mountain pass or on the beach. Solar is just a nightmare, unless you have the space to install them on the ground. And the cost! About the time they pay for themselves, its time to replace them. Im in favor of wind and solar, when the technology gets there, and when the costs, and land requirements gets reasonable.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: crashnburn 10/26/2025 9:50:36 AM (No. 2021725)
Neither turbine blades, lithium batteries, nor solar arrays are recyclable. Thus they clog land fills. Also, EVs are a net environmental negative.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Hazymac 10/26/2025 9:57:08 AM (No. 2021729)
There is about one ton of copper in each windmill. Last week, the market value of Cu was around $5.00 per ounce, or $80 a pound. There's about $160,000 worth of copper in each windmill, and some enterprising thieves have stolen huge amounts of copper from some of these ridiculous windmills, which in any case will have to be replaced within fifteen years after, maybe, paying for themselves once, if the wind blows the right amount. Large scale solar and wind is a blight on the environment, and on nature. Get rid of them all, and go with what works.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: swarfer 10/26/2025 10:12:44 AM (No. 2021737)
The key is that folks who pay no taxes are getting their electricity subsidized by those that do. Essentially it’s a social program disguised as green program.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: earlybird 10/26/2025 10:23:27 AM (No. 2021740)
We deidn't ever buy into this; Utopia? Seriously?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 10/26/2025 11:09:36 AM (No. 2021757)
Look for the left to propose a new house building regulation. Any new house must have a windmill installed on its roof. Any new apartment buildings or condos must have a larger windmill installed on their roof. This will be quickly followed by an advisory to stay indoors due to falling objects. Welcome to big corrupt government. It won't pay for itself, but people with 'connections' will get rich anyway. The debt will continue to rise. Until the money runs out. Oh, that is already happening.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: paral04 10/26/2025 11:09:56 AM (No. 2021758)
Not only are these wind mills ugly but they kill millions of birds that eat the insects that attack or crops. In the ocean, the high pitched emissions lead the sea life such as the whales off course and many have been beached and die.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: mc squared 10/26/2025 11:40:44 AM (No. 2021776)
The whole 'alternate power" green move is the world's biggest swindle to gain government handouts for development and production of fantasy projects. Knowledgeable engineers knew damn well that they're not competitive, but newly formed corporations took the money and ran.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: marbles 10/26/2025 11:50:18 AM (No. 2021779)
Man caused globalwarming/climatechange is a scam. It's all about money for the perpetrators ( and their friends ) of this hoax and control over every aspect of our lives. 500 1000 foot windmills 9 miles off the Jersey Shore with red flashing lights and a perpetual humming sound that can be seen and heard on shore. That's what Murphy is pushing. The big issue in the upcoming governor's election is the price of electricity. Our nuclear plants have been closed down and we import energy from other states at ridiculously high prices. Solar and wind are not meant to work.....that's the scam.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Roscoelewis 10/26/2025 11:52:27 AM (No. 2021780)
Ask an engineer or business owner. If some project were profitible, it would have been created long ago without input from the government. Free enterprise and entrepreneurship will get the right things done without interference from the government.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: JackBurton 10/26/2025 11:54:53 AM (No. 2021782)
To my mind, the REALLY bad part of the windmills is that they put them on on arable land. Farm land. Depending upon the height of the tower, they might put a base pad in the earth that is 30 feet across, 9 feet deep, using 3000 tons of concrete and rebar. Apparently they don't reuse these pads and they certainly don't remove them at the end of the life of the tower. This makes the farm land a waste land forever. And for what? 10 to (as this article utopia-like says) 25 years of use? Horrid.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: MickTurn 10/26/2025 12:33:18 PM (No. 2021794)
All Leftist Plans turn to CRAP, the only question is how quickly! The reason is they are all LIES dressed up in Prom Dresses so no one can see the UGLY!
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Reply 13 - Posted by: philsner 10/26/2025 12:41:01 PM (No. 2021801)
Who told you I was ever sold on this liberal power grab?
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Reply 14 - Posted by: bpl40 10/26/2025 1:11:45 PM (No. 2021812)
A thermal power station generating one megawatt power occupies one square mile of land. A wind powered unit will need more than 400 sq miles! At this rate all the power required by EVs, AI data centers will require more space than US territory!
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Reply 15 - Posted by: danu 10/26/2025 2:08:01 PM (No. 2021827)
it blows
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Reply 16 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 10/26/2025 3:15:26 PM (No. 2021848)
Voodoo energy can never meet the needs of the baseload. So-called green energy isn't feasible without government subsidies.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: snowoutlaw 10/26/2025 4:08:59 PM (No. 2021861)
Its a great deal for the windmill owners when they can get paid to NOT generate electricity during times of excess production.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: ldb51 10/26/2025 7:37:25 PM (No. 2021925)
I understand people can't stand to live within miles of the things because of the shock beats they cause in the vicinity. Seems to cause fatigue, increased physical stress, and perhaps cardiac issues... similar to what it may be doing to whales. And, as has been pointed out, they require environmental exemptions because of the avian and ocean casualties. Haven't heard much about the possible effects on "climate change", but it makes sense that masses of crowded propellers robbing energy from local and perhaps regional air currents should have rippling effects on temperatures, precipitation, cloud cover, the seasons, wildlife, agriculture...
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Reply 19 - Posted by: JHHolliday 10/26/2025 10:47:09 PM (No. 2022003)
Now wait, folks. I am currently using solar power and it's perfect for the job I use it for. It charges the fish feeder on my dock. I should get the Greta Thornburg green award preferably with some substantial cash . Seriously, solar is useful for small applications like that but putting our massive energy needs at the whims of wind are solar is frightening. Maybe twenty or thirty years from now, technology will advance enough to make those thnigs practical but as of now, we are throwing trillions up a wild boar's a**.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: lakerman1 10/27/2025 3:08:49 AM (No. 2022045)
It has been a decade or so since it happened, but a wind generator, installed and running at the Tom Ridge Environmental Center on the shores of Lake Erie, blew up in the middle of the night. No one was injured, but only because of the time, but the Tom Ridge folks decided not to rebuild the wind thing.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Lawsy0 10/27/2025 4:43:40 AM (No. 2022049)
In sum, solar and/or wind energy are net negatives in this century. Perhaps, by the next century, it will be a reality. We are not nearly over the gasoline powered engine yet. Be patient.
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