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I’m an expert in urban warfare. Israel
is upholding the laws of war

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Posted By: Judy W., 11/7/2023 5:19:06 PM

All war is hell. All war is killing and destruction, and historically civilians are inordinately the innocent victims of wars. Urban warfare is a unique type of hell not just for soldiers, who face assaults from a million windows or deep tunnels below them, but especially for civilians. Noncombatants have accounted for 90% of casualties per international humanitarian experts in the modern wars that have occurred in populated urban areas such as Iraq’s Mosul and Syria’s Raqqa, even when a Western power like the United States is leading or supporting the campaign. The destruction and suffering, as awful as they are, don’t automatically constitute war crimes

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I am amazed that CNN published this fair article that shows in some detail how Israel is following the laws of war, even going beyond the requirements by notifying civilians that they need to evacuate before an attack. It makes clear that urban war is horrible no matter what anyone does to try to mitigate it, and gives some examples from American battles in cities during the war on terror, where the numbers of civilians killed are much larger than Gaza's.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: MattMusson1 11/7/2023 5:48:14 PM (No. 1593980)
I believe in a proportionate response. There are 500 million Arabs and 11 million Israelis. Roughly 45 to 1. So, 1400 murdered Israelis should elicit a response of 1400 * 45 = 63,000. So a proportionate response should not exceed 63K.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: JimBob 11/7/2023 6:43:12 PM (No. 1594008)
The population in Gaza elected Hamas. They knew who they were voting for, and what Hamas would do. Much of the population in Gaza support Hamas, support killing the Israelis, support killing Jews and Christians worldwide. If I recall, they were celebrating and dancing in the streets when they got word of the attacks in New York and Washington DC on Sept. 11 2011. A couple of weeks ago, they decided to FAFO, as the new acronym says. Well, they FA'd, and now they are FO'ing. They are trouble, no matter where they go. Heck, none of the other Arab nations will take 'em. The leaders in those nations know the score. I have NO sympathy for them. AT ALL. Period.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 11/7/2023 8:35:06 PM (No. 1594062)
As several L.Dotters have commented in recent days, there is no such thing as a civilized war.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: DVC 11/7/2023 9:25:09 PM (No. 1594085)
Puts me of mind of the scene in "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" when Paul Newman is challenged by the huge hulking guy, and agrees to a knife fight to settle things. Then he says "First, we have to discuss the rules." while striding rapidly towards the big guy. The big guy says, "RULES!!?? In a knife fight?" just as Butch kicks him hard in the crotch, proving that, yes, there really aren't rules in a knife fight. Rules of warfare? Sorry, this is basically a pretty stupid idea. None of our enemies have followed any "rules of warfare" since forever....the Germans mass murdered prisoners, killed civilians in revenge, and gased millions of Jews. Fretting over rules in war just gets you (figuratively) kicked in the crotch. Kill all Hamas, however it is necessary, by whatever means necessary. If they are all dead, you did it right. Fretting over rules is just helping the enemy, who has proven that they murder women and babies for fun, clearly these 7th century barbarians do not recognize any rules.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: mifla 11/8/2023 3:58:19 AM (No. 1594192)
Wars should be avoided. When war is unavoidable, the quickest way to end it is to unleash hell on your enemy. Leave the media, the lawyers, and the rule book at home. Not only will the war end sooner rather than later, the losers will think twice about starting another war.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: zoidberg 11/8/2023 10:35:19 AM (No. 1594440)
"We are not fighting armies but a hostile people, and must make old and young, rich and poor, feel the hard hand of war. My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom. War is hell." -William Tecumseh Sherman
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