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Trump: The Leader of a Faction or a Party?

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Posted By: tisHimself, 8/26/2023 8:14:29 AM

Throughout my time campaigning for public office, over the course of several Republican Party primaries I ran against an incumbent, as an incumbent, and for an open seat. The last GOP primary I contested was for our party’s nomination for Michigan’s 11th Congressional District in 2002. Fortunately, I was successful in every one of these primaries and, later, in the ensuing general elections. What helped make these latter general election victories possible was the grace and magnanimity of my defeated GOP primary rivals, each of whom supported my campaigns against Democrat opponents.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: commonsence 8/26/2023 8:32:22 AM (No. 1542682)
To the writer of the article. ASA Hutchinson said in the debate he would not support Trump, I guess that's okay though right. The pole he sided is different from other polls that show Trump beating by now by 7 to 8 points. Vicious behavior from mega, it has been has been the never trumpers that are the most vicious, they're the ones who partook in to Sham impeachments. And we're supposed to reach our hands out to them, like they're rational understanding and only interested in principles. By the way in 2020 where was Paul Ryan support, Mitch McConnell support and a number of other Republicans who said they would not support Trump in 2020. It wasn't maga refusing to support people it's the Never trumpers. Let's face it they have some form of mental illness.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Subsuburban 8/26/2023 8:33:16 AM (No. 1542684)
Thaddeus McCotter. Even the name evokes a time gone by, a time when "honorable" political operatives could accept defeat with grace and magnanimity. A time when, despite our political differences, we were "all in this together," and were just patriotic Americans, regardless of race, color or creed. Had dinosaurs developed the ability to speak, I'm sure this is precisely the type of bland, vague reassurances they would have passed among each other as the giant meteor that presaged their deaths appeared in the sky. "Oh, don't worry old chap, we're all going to be just fine as long as we stick together and just go about our business as usual. Everything will get back to normal eventually." The sooner antiquated, superannuated, doddering fools like McCotter pass from the scene, the better. This is no time to seek amity with our foes; no time to try to "just get along" with those who seek our annihilation as a nation and its replacement with a global hegemon whose every waking moment is consumed with hatred for us and devising ways to destroy us an dour way of life. As was once said in Parliament on April 20, 1653, " It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice. Ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government. Ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money. Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you do not possess? Ye have no more religion than my horse. Gold is your God. Which of you have not bartered your conscience for bribes? Is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth? Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defiled this sacred place, and turned the Lord's temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices? Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation. You were deputed here by the people to get grievances redressed, are yourselves become the greatest grievance. Your country therefore calls upon me to cleanse this Augean stable, by putting a final period to your iniquitous proceedings in this House; and which by God's help, and the strength he has given me, I am now come to do. I command ye therefore, upon the peril of your lives, to depart immediately out of this place. Go, get you out! Make haste! Ye venal slaves be gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors. In the name of God, go!"
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Reply 3 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 8/26/2023 8:34:19 AM (No. 1542687)
Read the Gingrich post below this one.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: judy 8/26/2023 8:40:20 AM (No. 1542695)
Wake up we have a new party.. the old rich men north of Richmond no longer win elections, have top poll numbers or listen to the people....but they still try to run the party!! Where's Boehner, Ryan, W bush, Jeb, Flake...
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Reply 5 - Posted by: slipstik 8/26/2023 9:04:21 AM (No. 1542714)
Whoever this guy is, he doesn't realize that we are on an existential precipice. One more step, even a tiny one, will be our destruction. We got here through an endless procession of tiny steps every time we voted for the lesser of multiple evils. This guy proposes we do that yet again. If you don't recognize our back is now to the wall, you're lost and useless. We either fall on our swords or ... We are at the end kids. Whatcha gonna do?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 8/26/2023 9:42:55 AM (No. 1542736)
The GOP: Political Party or Nepotistic Grift Machine?
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Sanchin 8/26/2023 9:50:56 AM (No. 1542737)
The" Beat Biden Pledge" is not only meaningless it is decieving. Changing names and faces while maintaining the same uniparty with new names and faces and only looking towards minor changes in goals and tactics along with the genetic make-up to surrender is not how this country will be great again. The field of candidates other than Trump are complete rubbish. Their abilities to affect a positive change is completely lacking and in many cases a.mere political veneer that will be quickly shed if elected. At this point in time I see no need to support any of them. Simply my opinion and I have yet to be convinced to change it.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 8/26/2023 10:13:05 AM (No. 1542750)
It is evident that the Republican party is distancing itself from Trump and he will have to continue forward without them. Neither party is on the side of America or its people. Neither is our government. It is betrayal on a massive scale. It is evident that we should not look towards either the Democrats or Republicans for honest competent leadership and it is time for a new party.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: chumley 8/26/2023 11:13:31 AM (No. 1542806)
This may have always been true but it certainly is now. The leadership (and most of the followership) of both parties are hopelessly corrupt and compromised. They are routinely bribed by lobbyists and corporate interests, and/or being blackmailed by people like Epstein and CIA. To them, America is last and their fortunes and power are first. If we choose either party we are doomed. Better to build gallows and use them.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Californian 8/26/2023 12:13:10 PM (No. 1542848)
Neither faction nor party. It is a movement of people who love this country and all it once stood for. The Republican and Democratic entities are just different brands from the same marketing division of the same company. The end result is the same no matter which you support. I beg all of you who still support the Republican marketing division to stop sending them money and volunteering to help them. Your time and money is better spent on MAGA candidates if you love this country.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: PrayerWarrior 8/26/2023 12:50:17 PM (No. 1542864)
Thaddeus McCotter is what is wrong with the Republican party. Is he so blind that he cannot see that we are in a war, spiritual and otherwise, within and without, and so we have to have new rules. Those today that we think that are on our side, like Asa Hutchinson aren't. Never in our lifetime should we offer to support him. He's a destroyer; his own State doesn't even like him. So Mr. McCotter, we are fighting for the life of this Republic, if you don't know it. So get your head out of your butt and see what's going on in our party. You might learn something.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: rememberwhen 8/26/2023 2:17:36 PM (No. 1542905)
This isn't your father's Republican Party. It's a party dominated for too long by go-along-to-get-along "conservatives" and moderates who essentially are Democrat-Light. "Hold on there just a minute. You're going too far. You want to increase the national debt by$10 trillion. That's too much. Let's keep the increase to $9 trillion. Look what a great job we've done to protect the American people from profligate spending." Yeah right! We need true conservatives to stand up and resist those in the Uniparty who want to flush our freedoms down the toilet. No more RINOs elected to office. They're just enablers, as committed to the destruction of all that has made America great as the Demonrats, so long as they remain in power.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: stablemoney 8/26/2023 3:06:24 PM (No. 1542934)
What a disgusting question. Trump is a president, won both times he ran, and this quack asks if he leads a faction. Hit the road with this nonsense.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: rememberwhen 8/26/2023 4:47:53 PM (No. 1542984)
I read an article a little while ago--I forget where--that said Trump is not just a candidate. He's the leader of a movement. A far better description than either of the writer's alternatives.
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