California fire crews use six thousand
gallons of water to extinguish burning
Tesla Model S whose battery spontaneously
combusted while driving down busy freeway
Daily Mail (UK),
by
Vanessa Serna
Original Article
Posted By: Imright,
1/30/2023 5:23:16 AM
Firefighters used 6,000 gallons of water to extinguish a Tesla Model S that spontaneously burst into flames on a busy highway outside of Sacramento on Saturday.
The driver, who was not injured, was on Highway 50 in Rancho Cordova at around 3pm when smoke started to come out from the front of the car.
Photos of the luxury car showed the vehicle completely totaled with the front end of completely burnt.
Officials responded to the scene with two fire engines and a water tender. The Metro Fire of Sacramento crew said that nothing was previously wrong with car.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
F15 Gork 1/30/2023 6:43:52 AM (No. 1390320)
We need to convert our coal plants to burning EV batteries.......they apparently burn hot and long.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Rinktum 1/30/2023 6:54:55 AM (No. 1390325)
Looks like wokeness trumps common sense once again. One day someone is going to be incinerated in one of these cars. Clearly, they are fire hazards worse than the Ford Pinto! Tesla should be made to pull them off the road or fix this horrific scenario. They are terrific looking cars but they are not worth the risk. Virtue signaling is going to get someone killed sooner than later.
21 people like this.
Reply 3 - Posted by:
SkeezerMcGee 1/30/2023 7:19:42 AM (No. 1390343)
Someday an EV powered with lithium-ion batteries is going to combust while in a long tunnel and thereby kill its occupants and many other near-by motorists and passengers from the resulting toxic gasses. Only then will the deadly dangers of these batteries be fully appreciated by the general public.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 1/30/2023 7:22:10 AM (No. 1390345)
Lithium plus water equals fire. They should let the car burn and only use water to prevent the area around the car from catching fire.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
rushie 1/30/2023 7:57:24 AM (No. 1390359)
Gosh, I didnt hear anything about this maybe happening on that gushy ev ad yesterday in the football game!
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
snowoutlaw 1/30/2023 8:11:31 AM (No. 1390367)
#4 is right. Putting water on lithium is just putting more fuel on the fire, will firefighters ever learn? When water hits lithium it splits into H2 gas and lithium hydroxide, H2 is basically rocket fuel.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
homefry 1/30/2023 8:16:25 AM (No. 1390370)
They didnt use all that water to put out the fire, they used it to stop other stuff close to it from catching fire. Electricity does not react to water the way that normal fire does.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Samsquanch 1/30/2023 8:34:09 AM (No. 1390385)
I pray this would never happen on Commie-la's electric school buses.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
sunshinehorses 1/30/2023 8:45:45 AM (No. 1390396)
Hubby was watching the Barrett-Jackson auction out of AZ and they brought in a 60's Cadillac that had been converted to electric with a Tesla battery. The commentators were talking about how this would keep some of these classic cars on the road in the future. Hubby's comments were that it was a good way to ruin a classic car and it would probably catch fire while being driven anyway.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Gordon Mills 1/30/2023 9:08:31 AM (No. 1390414)
What does 'SIX THOUSAND gallons' have to do with anything?
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
NorthernDog 1/30/2023 10:05:32 AM (No. 1390458)
This reminds me of a story from 2 months ago. Five SUVs used by Biden's security detail mysteriously burned up at the Nantucket airport. It appears the story was spiked because there has been no logical explanation why 5 newer cars would burst into flames.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Grackle 1/30/2023 10:05:38 AM (No. 1390459)
Are those not two different cars pictured? The first few pics show a car with a ruined front end. The last pic, of the car in the "pit," shows a car with a ruined back end. Am I wrong?
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Grackle 1/30/2023 10:07:28 AM (No. 1390460)
Disregard previous. The article diverges in the middle to the story of the second car. It's still bad formatting.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Strike3 1/30/2023 10:10:19 AM (No. 1390462)
I've been hearing that it's a hot car. Deaths have already been recorded, like the self-driving Tesla that decided to take an off ramp on I-75 in Florida and rear-ended a tractor trailer. A couple in their sixties were both killed.
4 people like this.
Reply 15 - Posted by:
czechlist 1/30/2023 10:11:18 AM (No. 1390464)
A Norweigen shipping company will no longer ferry EVs , hybrids nor hydrogen powered vehicle due to fire danger. Switzerland is considering banning EVs from use during power shortages or just banning them all together.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
bighambone 1/30/2023 11:01:19 AM (No. 1390506)
If that were to happen when the electric motor vehicle is in a residential garage it is clear that the entire residence would burn down. That’s a major risk that the members of the public must take into consideration before purchasing an electric motor vehicle.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
hershey 1/30/2023 11:21:46 AM (No. 1390528)
Hmmm thought they had a water shortage out there, and they wasted 6000 gallons on a Tesla?? Think of the tiny salmon they could have saved....
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
zephyrgirl 1/30/2023 11:22:32 AM (No. 1390529)
#16 - it has already happened multiple times, but the stories disappear pretty quickly.
My neighbor got a company-provided Tesla but never parked it in his 3-car garage. I asked him why, and he said he had a coworker whose EV burst into flames in the garage and burned the house down.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
NamVet70 1/30/2023 11:23:13 AM (No. 1390530)
I guess these cars need ejection seats so you can be sure of getting out of the car when it combusts. Just think what the situation would be like if an EV ignites going down the inside lane of a freeway and the family in the vehicle has a small child strapped into a baby seat in the back seat of the car.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Speedy2 1/30/2023 11:38:17 AM (No. 1390543)
Thermal Runaways with high tech batteries is nothing new.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
mc squared 1/30/2023 11:41:29 AM (No. 1390546)
Last weekend, I had a miserable drive through south Florida. There were as many Teslas as I've ever seen. If they ever combust simultaneously, the south counties are gonners.
4 people like this.
Reply 22 - Posted by:
Thos Weatherby 1/30/2023 1:05:04 PM (No. 1390604)
And just to produce the 72 batteries in the Tesla, you need to move over, 18k tons of earth. And that takes large vehicles that consume a lot of oil/gas/diesel to move it, dump it and distribute it.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
DVC 1/30/2023 1:15:50 PM (No. 1390613)
Well, it's a lithium battery pack. Sometimes they do that. Just don't park it in your attached garage.
A Tesla has something like 6,000 to 8,000 individual 18650 cells in it's battery pack. These are batteries also used in flashlights, power tools, and were originated for laptop computers - which used to be the primary market for rechargeable batteries. The industrial processes to make these batteries are very refined, and nowdays, fewer and fewer of them just spontaneously combust. It used to be common enough that laptop computers were briefly banned on commercial aircraft.
In any case, this is a statistical thing. Anything made in very, very large quantities has to be very, very close to perfect to not be known as "a problem".
Example: Make 1 million XYZ cars. If 0.01% of them blows an engine in the first year, that means that 99.99% of them are OK....which sounds good, but there will also be 100 XYZ cars that blow an engine in the first year, and THAT will be enough that it would be a HUGE problem because "everybody knows that those XYZ cars are crap, they all blow up."
And the fact that there are 8,000 individual 18650s in one Tesla means that the chances of the vehicle going up in smoke is 2,000 times that of your power drill or laptop which has four 18650s in it.
Zillions of little cells is a statistically bad way to make a car. Much better would be a hundred larger cells. BUT, the whole reason that Musk chose the 18650 size batteries is that, because of laptop computers, huge factories had already been made to produce them, saving him billions in startup costs not have to build his own battery factory. Also, all those early burnt up laptops and exploding cell phones paved the way for more reliable lithium batteries.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
SALady 1/30/2023 1:49:15 PM (No. 1390634)
The really scary thing about this is that Teslas are by far the best made electric cars in the world!!! They are truly the "gold standard" by which all other electric cars are judged.
Which is also absolute proof that electric cars are dangerous and useless with the current level of technology. They are the "solution" for a "problem" ("global warming", "climate change", or whatever the current PC term that is being used) that simply doesn't exist.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
3XALADY 1/30/2023 2:38:53 PM (No. 1390664)
Re #16's comment about parking an EV in a residential garage -- what about you parking your car in a public garage while you go to work and when you return, the Tesla has burned, along with many others in the garage.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
RWPollock 1/31/2023 5:05:20 AM (No. 1391030)
So green lovers of CA where did the toxic unregulated lithium compounds go? Look a France, junkyard s of electric cars polluting their land from lithium battery leakage. Electric cars..no thanks.They are not a solution but another major problem.
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