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University’s Ban On Cheating, Plagiarism
‘Unfairly Targets’ Minority Students,
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Posted By: NorthernDog, 2/1/2023 8:53:56 AM

A Princeton University student argued in a Sunday night opinion article that the school’s Honor Code unfairly impacts racial minorities, citing parallels to the U.S. criminal justice system. The Ivy League school’s Undergraduate Honor Code lays out standards for student conduct that all undergraduate students must abide by and prohibits students from plagiarizing or cheating, according to its website. Emilly Santos, author of the op-ed and Princeton University student, likened the code to the United States criminal justice system to propose that it “disadvantages” minority students. (Snip) “FLI students, like many students, are often afraid of disappointing family and friends,”


Oh goodie - a new acronym: FLI's - First-generation Low-Income. They apparently should be allowed to cheat.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: thethirdruffian 2/1/2023 8:58:36 AM (No. 1391951)
FLI is less offensive to me than rich minority kids getting affirmative action. Lots of poor whites in this country.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: stevendm 2/1/2023 9:00:31 AM (No. 1391952)
FTA: “FLI students, like many students, are often afraid of disappointing family and friends” The solution to that is to study, just like everyone else.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: PChristopher 2/1/2023 9:00:38 AM (No. 1391953)
So he's saying that minorities not only cheat and plagiarize but that they can't make it without doing so?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: DVC 2/1/2023 9:02:40 AM (No. 1391956)
Because MLK was a plagiarist, I suppose. What they are saying is that blacks have criminal tendencies that they can't control, and it is unfair to ask them to follow the laws that we all follow?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Dannee 2/1/2023 9:05:57 AM (No. 1391958)
In order to avoid cheating claims the university should just award degrees to all incoming FLI's. Then the "Honor Code" will remain in effect for the remaining students. The FLI's will then be able to seek high level government positions well in advance of the regular students who will struggle with loans and Master's degree pursuits.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 2/1/2023 9:13:46 AM (No. 1391962)
Guess honesty will be racist just like math for some 'intellectuals'. Frankly surprised these people haven't declared logic and reason racist. They will in time.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Encore 2/1/2023 9:17:14 AM (No. 1391964)
So, I have to wonder how they got into Princeton in the first place…anybody?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: jinx 2/1/2023 9:19:37 AM (No. 1391966)
This person just insulted all minorities. Where is the outrage?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: valinva 2/1/2023 9:24:39 AM (No. 1391970)
Thomas Sowell has long said that putting minority students who are not academically prepared for rigorous demands at top universities is doing them no favor. Unfortunately the top student at a high school where only 15% of students can read at an 8th grade level is not prepared for the rigors of top schools. Sowell argues that they would be better off at lower tier Universities where they would do well. I believe something like less than 50% of minority students do well enough to graduate. They leave without a degree and in debt. Now the left says the answer is to let them cheat. The dumbing down institutions is their answer to everything. Equity is the goal not excellence.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Moritz55 2/1/2023 9:28:06 AM (No. 1391974)
#8, that was my first thought, too. “The soft bigotry of low expectations” is alive and well, living in an ivory tower at Princeton.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: ARKfamily 2/1/2023 9:28:26 AM (No. 1391975)
I have the same question as #3.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 2/1/2023 9:28:38 AM (No. 1391976)
Cheating in college, the latest entitlement for blacks. Many are affirmative-action admits who don't meet requirements (test scores and GPAs) to even get in.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: marbles 2/1/2023 9:29:04 AM (No. 1391977)
Another example of the soft bigotry of low expectations.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: faceincrowd 2/1/2023 9:32:00 AM (No. 1391980)
Okay. So the lesson to take away is minorities are cheaters & thieves and are admitting to it. Great. And we are supposed to accept this why?
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Reply 15 - Posted by: faceincrowd 2/1/2023 9:36:44 AM (No. 1391983)
And by the way, of what value is a degree if it was obtained under the low standards of condoned plagiarism and cheating? Why even bother getting a degree? It is like the new "participation trophy".
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Reply 16 - Posted by: paral04 2/1/2023 9:49:29 AM (No. 1391994)
So, are they confirming that minority students are stupid and have to cheat? How insulting! If allowing this behavior for minorities, it will be a cold day in hell before I go to them if I get sick or need legal advice, much less let them build anything.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: janjan 2/1/2023 9:49:32 AM (No. 1391995)
This is liberal racism exposed. These snot nosed self-proclaimed elites in training have decided that minorities can’t survive without cheating, therefore it must not only be accepted but encouraged. These students will not graduate college any smarter than when they started. Is that the plan?
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Reply 18 - Posted by: 5 handicap 2/1/2023 9:51:38 AM (No. 1391996)
Her argument is that since minorities cannot compete fairly they must be allowed to cheat.... Whether or not true, it seems a rather RACIST assumption on her part.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Kate318 2/1/2023 9:53:53 AM (No. 1391999)
The soft bigotry of low expectations, and an insult to every academically solid black student.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: downnout 2/1/2023 10:06:14 AM (No. 1392012)
Is she saying that cheating and plagiarism are acceptable? I doubt if this woman would cross a bridge designed and built by those who cheated their way through university.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: RussZilla 2/1/2023 10:07:49 AM (No. 1392014)
Put this in your pipe and smoke it. Princeton alumni include Justice Sotomayor and Michelle Obama.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: David Key 2/1/2023 10:12:34 AM (No. 1392017)
It appears that they are admitting that their minority students are the ones who cheat the most. Oh my but doesn't that make all these race hustlers actually racists?
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Reply 23 - Posted by: czechlist 2/1/2023 10:15:24 AM (No. 1392021)
FTA "the fear it instills in students fosters an environment of academic hostility." So honesty is something to be fearedd? A left wing female POC auditioning for a MSNBC anchor spot.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Rama41 2/1/2023 10:18:41 AM (No. 1392024)
There is a certain symmetry in the allowance of lower ethical standards for minority students. After all, it does track consistently with inner cities allowing theft from local businesses.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Heraclitus 2/1/2023 10:20:22 AM (No. 1392026)
So, minority students are ...inferior intellectually? lazy? morally degenerate? culturally inferior? GWBush warned of the "bigotry of low expectations", and we have not ... no, not WE, THEY, the pompous and self-righteous Left elites, they have never expected more from minorities, because this is precisely how they think. These elites include Blacks who have bought into the Left ideology, and are part of the cabal of wealthy politicians, pundits, entertainers and so-called "educators" who are still stuck in a fetid quagmire and depend on the perpetual servile state of their dependents to maintain their position of superiority.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Socio 2/1/2023 10:34:51 AM (No. 1392045)
Well this worked for criminal activity; minorities' who commit a disproportionate amount of crime claimed they were unfairly targeted by law enforcement because they were minorities, called it systemic racism. As a result they now get to shoplift at will, pay no bail, be set free from jail, or not even prosecuted. If that is any precursor we will soon see cheating and plagiarism approved for minority students.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: PlayItAgain 2/1/2023 10:41:42 AM (No. 1392049)
Now wee see how truly racist these Universities really are.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: MickTurn 2/1/2023 10:46:52 AM (No. 1392055)
Now it's ok to cheat your way to a useless degree in Studies of inane crap.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: planetgeo 2/1/2023 10:51:01 AM (No. 1392059)
So, a generalization confirmed?
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Reply 30 - Posted by: TJ54 2/1/2023 10:59:27 AM (No. 1392076)
The bigotry of low expectations
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Rumblehog 2/1/2023 11:03:43 AM (No. 1392083)
Then go to a Community College where it's easier.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: mifla 2/1/2023 11:05:37 AM (No. 1392084)
Another log on the victim fire. Let's keep those racial stereotypes going.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: Starboard_side 2/1/2023 11:07:52 AM (No. 1392088)
Interesting to see them reference their "code of honor" as I presume it only applies when they are actually attending the University. After all, it seems far too many Ivy League alumni population positions of elected and nominated office, where that "code" seems to have been forgotten.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: red1066 2/1/2023 11:16:47 AM (No. 1392099)
Seventy grand a year for a degree that won't be worth much more that a degree from a community college.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 2/1/2023 11:18:12 AM (No. 1392102)
We're dumb black people we have to cheat. Not fair not letting us cheat.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: bighambone 2/1/2023 11:24:24 AM (No. 1392105)
In other words cheating and plagiarism should be considered to be “ok” if they are perpetrated by minority students?
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Reply 37 - Posted by: Enoch Powell 2/1/2023 11:47:52 AM (No. 1392125)
MIT used to plaster the walls with pictures of students who were the first in their families to attend college. Fine. What are their academic credentials? When I see so very many blacks traipsing through Harvard Yard, I, and no doubt many others, can't help but ask themselves are they here on merit or because of their skin color?
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Reply 38 - Posted by: VAPMAN 2/1/2023 11:51:39 AM (No. 1392132)
Actually it does take some effort to cheat and plagiarize and some of the students may not be able to handle that. Just give them the degree they want (summa cum laude of course) and charge the government full tuition.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: Grateful 2/1/2023 11:52:20 AM (No. 1392133)
They have 'progressed' from participating trophies to participating degrees, both just as worthless. Up next for the FLIs is participating high-end salaries to go along with their worthless trophies and degrees.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: Maggie2u 2/1/2023 12:00:30 PM (No. 1392140)
I wonder if this student, after she graduates, will go to a minority doctor, lawyer or dentist.
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Reply 41 - Posted by: moebellini3 2/1/2023 1:11:02 PM (No. 1392220)
The school’s Honor Code unfairly impacts racial minorities, citing parallels to the U.S. criminal justice system. Gee, ya think, and why. Just who are committing most of these transgressions. Who are committing most of the violent crimes, who are committing most of the hate crimes, who are committing most of the carjackings, assaults on police, home invasions, riots and looting. Are we living in a fantasy land. If there's a murder in Chicago, Baltimore, NYC, Atlanta or St. Louis, what are you going to do, look for a Chinese guy. People are sick of hearing about the disadvantaged. You commit a crime you pay for it End of story. Total insanity.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: DVC 2/1/2023 3:12:53 PM (No. 1392274)
How about getting off your phone and STUDYING hard? I got two engineering degrees back to back and it was a six year difficult job. I worked hard for my high GPA and memberships in two engineering honor societies. Whiny little pukes like this who think that cheating is OK are just third rate losers, and aren't even in Princeton for any reason related to brains or capability....only because of their skin color. Affirmative action whiners are disgusting.
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Reply 43 - Posted by: JackBurton 2/1/2023 3:14:04 PM (No. 1392277)
Kinda like the law and prison sentences unfairly target... ...groups that have a lot of criminals. I left spaces there so you could read between the lines.
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Reply 44 - Posted by: kennedylaw 2/1/2023 7:01:51 PM (No. 1392404)
Sounds awfully racist to me.
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Reply 45 - Posted by: rochow 2/1/2023 9:24:21 PM (No. 1392497)
I guess if you can't keep up with the grueling demands of the university then you have to attempt to drag it down to some student who should not be there standard. Santos, go to another university.
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