Slavery is on the ballot for voters in
5 US states
Associated Press,
by
Kimberlee Kruesi
Original Article
Posted By: Moritz55,
10/27/2022 1:47:45 AM
More than 150 years after slaves were freed in the U.S., voters in five states will soon decide whether to close loopholes that led to the proliferation of a different form of slavery — forced labor by people convicted of certain crimes. None of the proposals would force immediate changes inside the states’ prisons, though they could lead to legal challenges related to how they use prison labor, a lasting imprint of slavery’s legacy on the entire United States.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
RuckusTom 10/27/2022 2:05:43 AM (No. 1315345)
What about the 2 million + illegal aliens that have come into the US over the last couple of years? They'll do jobs and get paid in cash under the table at lower rates than Americans with no documentation showing they're even here. If they get arrested they'll be sent off the jail. If they get hurt while working (or otherwise) they'll be dropped off at the emergency room. For their employer, who cares? The taxpayers will pay for their incarceration or medical bills.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
SweetPea3 10/27/2022 4:42:57 AM (No. 1315370)
Not to mention the millions of girls, boys, and women encouraged into our country to be forced into a thriving sex slavery industry.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Skinnydip 10/27/2022 5:27:11 AM (No. 1315383)
AP sob story. In any case there won’t be many prisoners since nobody is going to be sent to jail.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
5 handicap 10/27/2022 5:30:54 AM (No. 1315386)
It's not slavery in Prison, Restitution perhaps...God forbid any criminal should be forced to make restitution, especially if he's a minority. After all it's damn near a constitutional right to rob rape and murder so long as you're black or brown.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
jimboscott 10/27/2022 5:52:45 AM (No. 1315395)
2,
Millions? Where does that number come from? I know the sex trade and human trafficking is a real thing, but millions? That means roughly one out of every 200 people in the U.S. is a sex slave. Either the real number is significantly lower or the term 'sex slave' needs some clarification. Most estimates are in the area of around 20-25K trafficked into the U.S. per year.
Do not get me wrong. I am not minimizing the human tragedy here, but when we make arguments based upon feelings more than facts then we start to do exactly what the left does.
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I live in Louisiana and the wording on the amendment is confusing. I don't want taxpayers to provide maid service for prisoners, but I don't think they should be out on our streets doing chain gang work either.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
smokincol 10/27/2022 7:19:47 AM (No. 1315464)
there is no such thing as "forced labor" within the walls of any prison in this country, each inmate is interviewed and selected for certain jobs within the institution and earns enough money to keep him from depleting his personal account which he uses to purchase certain items from the prison store
- stop with this alarmist verbiage and declarations about things being "fair", a prison is erected to house those who have broken the social contract and whoever is within those walls deserves to be there and fairness has nothing to do with it, because there is never any fairness thought of with regard to the victim(s) and/or their families ... why is that?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
JrSample 10/27/2022 7:21:11 AM (No. 1315467)
So, according to the AP requiring convicts; convicted of robbery, murder, rape, etc. to do a good days' work instead of sitting in their cells or working out at the gym is akin to slavery. The AP are idiots.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
SweetPea3 10/27/2022 7:29:49 AM (No. 1315478)
Yes, millions. Based on many articles I have read here on L.com on this topic and the millions of illegals smuggled, and waived, into our country over our borders, yes, millions. The sex slave trade is a multi billion dollar business for the cartels. Yes, millions.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 10/27/2022 7:35:02 AM (No. 1315487)
Just take a look at who sponsors these ballot measures. They're always Democrats. Just for a few signaling nothing will be gained.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
red1066 10/27/2022 7:41:56 AM (No. 1315497)
Seems to me having a job or something other than sitting around in a cell is a welcome respite to many inmates. Plus, they might learn a job skill, and gain some work ethic that they didn't have before that resulted in them ending up in jail. Having a job in jail also cuts down on disturbances in jail itself. Something I'm sure the guards appreciate.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
jkb 10/27/2022 7:46:09 AM (No. 1315507)
Yes, in Tennessee, despite slavery explicitly being illegal, they're offering an amendment to tweak that. Many of us are not hearing why the current constitutional prohibition is inadequate. Knowing it has democrat origins in during a supermajority Republican legislature makes it highly suspicious. Lots of us are voting no. They'll say we're supporting slavery, but that would be untrue. What's broken? Why is this the fix?
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Clinger 10/27/2022 7:50:37 AM (No. 1315512)
Slavery is on the ballot in all 50 states. Slavery is the theft of your labor. They just absconded with 40% of the product of our toil and labor by printing a 40% increase in the money supply. That is the theft of your labor.
And I'm supposed to be bothered that prisoners might be required to contribute to society? There's no excuse for prisons to fail to be self sufficient requiring no tax support. You prepare to rejoin society by following and adopting the patterns of behavior required in free society. That involves getting up and going to work and contributing to society at or above the cost of your sustenance.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
homefry 10/27/2022 8:16:17 AM (No. 1315540)
Prisons should be self supporting. Work the prisoners in the field to grow their own food, any leftovers can be used to feed needy families. Have prisoners clean up roadsides. I've heard people say that would not be cost effective, cause it would take so many to watch them, I say BULLSPIT! Put a chain on their leg with a cannonball attached to it and one man with a pump shotgun can tend to a whole flock of them.
IF a prison has no land to farm, put in rows of stationary bikes hooked to generators and have the prisoners pedaling producing electricity.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
BarryNo 10/27/2022 8:33:21 AM (No. 1315568)
I personally feel that a prisoner should be confined until they have paid their debt to society. That debt should be assessed as part of the sentencing procedure. A prisoner should be assigned work which in turn is used to reduce that debt. Behavioral penalties can be assessed within the system with external review. Wages must at least be equvelent to national minimum wage.
Certain crimes must merit the death penalty which prevent societal reimbursement. These would be any for of intentional murder, rape with battery, child rape, and treason.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
stablemoney 10/27/2022 9:22:53 AM (No. 1315624)
Prisoners are happy to escape their cells to do labor. That is how they earn a little money to spend. I don't hear the complaints coming from prisoners. I hear the complaints coming from leftists that are not, nor have ever been in prison.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
paral04 10/27/2022 9:41:26 AM (No. 1315652)
If the work isn't dangerous and not over 40 hours a week, make them useful and give them a small salary which they can collect when they are released. I don't see why I need to feed and care for criminals.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
DVC 10/27/2022 10:39:24 AM (No. 1315736)
Making criminals work is NOT slavery. This is such lefty BS.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
mc squared 10/27/2022 12:09:56 PM (No. 1315915)
I can see prisoners doing roadside cleanup and brush/ grass care. I sometimes do.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
cheeflo 10/27/2022 1:19:58 PM (No. 1316002)
Well, let's see ... they're getting 3 squares a day, shelter, medical care, clothing, and there's potential to get an education or learn skills. They're paid a nominal sum for the work they do.
So, where does slavery come in? They're being supported by the taxpayers, who are perversely paying to keep them away from the rest of us.
They're being punished for committing crime(s). They don't get to have the choices they would have had if they had stayed on the straight and narrow.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Enoch Powell 10/27/2022 5:16:45 PM (No. 1316216)
I was at the Fogg Museum at Harvard University the other day standing in front of a Copley portrait of George Washington. The explanatory plaque next to the portrait had been... adjusted... to reflect current concerns, noting that Harvard was conflicted by his slave ownership, etc. The notation failed to note, however, that his will directed that his slaves be freed upon the death of Martha.. Purposive or stupid on the museum's part? You be the judge.
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