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Posted By: Hazymac, 9/23/2022 9:03:35 AM

Reports that Russia may mobilize one million men to prosecute its faltering war to crush Ukraine means that the great human tragedy and military conflagration there is highly likely to continue. “The hidden 7th paragraph of the Russian President’s decree on partial mobilisation allows the Ministry of Defence of Russia to mobilise 1 million people, a source in Vladimir Putin’s administration has informed the news outlet Novaya Gazeta.Europe.” No matter how hastily trained, poorly armed or badly led such conscripts are, the introduction of such large numbers will inevitably expand the scale of the current war in terms of death, destructiveness and escalation potential.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: slipstik 9/23/2022 9:11:48 AM (No. 1285518)
The Russians have a problem. Vladimir Putin. If the Russians don't take care of that problem pretty soon, this world will be changed forever, and NOT for the better. They used to be good at this sort of thing.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 9/23/2022 9:57:29 AM (No. 1285570)
Are we about to see Stalingrad 2.0, where the Russians throw everything including millions of conscripts against the Ukraine? What will Lame Duck Joe do? Use nukes? He more or less said that was not out of the picture. Lame Duck better go before Congress and explain his "Declaration of War" against Russia.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: DVC 9/23/2022 10:01:39 AM (No. 1285578)
Putin has learned from watching Dems. Falsely accuse your enemy of doing what you are doing. So, now Ukraine fighting on it's own territory, desperately trying to fend of an invasion, Putin adds the irrational propaganda that a successful defense of Ukraine will result in Russia being "subsequently deprived of political, economic, cultural and any other sovereignty and ransacked." Not one square inch of Russian soil has been invaded. No one has even suggested invading Russia. Not one Russian civilian has been shelled. Not one Russian home has been damaged by Ukrainian rockets. Russia is occupying 20% of Ukraine. Russia has leveled thousands of Ukrainian homes, and killed many thousands of Ukrainian civilians, and continues to attempt to destroy the entire country. And yet Putin somehow imagines that Russia is on the verge of becoming a victim? Defending against Russian invasion is not acceptable, and if one successfully defends against this invasion, this defense is equated with Russia being "ransacked"? If Putin actually believes these words, he is a madman, and I don't think he is that, but I can't actually know. This is probably just extreme propaganda for domestic consumption, from a man very desperate to somehow equate his failing invasion of a neighboring country with the German invasion of Russia 80 years ago.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: coldborezero 9/23/2022 10:19:13 AM (No. 1285598)
I cannot honestly say which side of the Russia-Ukraine war is in the right. A question no one has answered clearly up to this point: what is the interest of the citizens of the United States in this conflict? NOT the interest of the power-mad people in government, but the citizens; We The People. I’m open to any logical, reasonable explanation. Thanks in advance.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Kate318 9/23/2022 10:27:06 AM (No. 1285605)
#3, perhaps the presence of anywhere from 26-46 (depending on the news source) US bio weapons labs in Ukraine might have something to do with it.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: MDConservative 9/23/2022 10:34:42 AM (No. 1285615)
FTA: "The generation of politicians that promised us the end of history would do well to just get us to another tomorrow." How 1950-ish. More scare porn. Better teach those kids to duck and cover quickly now that school is back in session. This mess is wholly manufactured by our friends and allies of NATO, expanding itself to contain a toothless, inept adversary living in the 1980s. Andropov is dead. So is Gorby. And Putin has apparently overplayed a weak hand, and now is going to either take what he's got, or he's going to a dacha and come back for his state funeral. He's not going to launch nukes at anyone. The oligarchy that supports Russia may be nationalists, but they're also businessmen. They will want their yachts back and the billions to re-flow their direction. They can find another Putin easily enough. In the meantime, what will NATO do to further exacerbate the current situation? I fear that much more than Russia.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: bpl40 9/23/2022 11:46:17 AM (No. 1285690)
Let us hope the hour produces the man - Donald J Trump.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: LadyVet 9/23/2022 12:21:12 PM (No. 1285733)
If Putin sends 1 million to invade Ukraine, that is still less than the 2 to 5 million that Biden has allowed to invade the USA.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: DVC 9/23/2022 1:34:00 PM (No. 1285803)
Re #5. Perhaps you might show some proof of your assertions? I worked in Ukraine for many years creating and managing biological research projects at multiple biotech institutes. We studied new software for advancing the efficiency of designing new drugs, new approaches to developing a vaccine for swine flu which is a major economic harm for pig farmers, tested about 100+ chemical compounds for antiviral effects, and we attempted to get support for a new antiviral drug, but it wasn't patentable as an antviral, already FDA approved for another use. That drug is now approved in Ukraine for influenza prevention and treatment, and recently passed testing in a German university biolab, shown to be effective against COVID virus, too. I've been there, I've worked with the labs - and there was no Fauci type research going on that I ever saw or even heard of. So, what's your proof? This is at best another ridiculous internet rumor, and most likely Russian disinformation. But I am told that all the photos of blown up Ukrainian cities are "faked" and rumors of evil work at biolabs are "truth". Interesting standards of reality out there.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: DVC 9/23/2022 2:21:56 PM (No. 1285859)
A bit of history of anti-plague research institutes in the Soviet Union, and in post soviet states. Doing commercially viable research projects with these institutes was intended to employ these scientists in beneficial projects, and avoid them being hired by countries like Iran. https://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/anti-plague-facilities-soviet-union/
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