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It's time to get rid of the 'liberal-conservative' spectrum

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Posted By: DVC, 8/14/2022 11:39:09 PM

Does everyone realize that the often-repeated line from the anti-liberty left doesn't ever stand up to factual reality? It's a construct primarily from the anti-liberty left side of the political spectrum. Like so many other lies from the left, it's been repeated so many times that people seem to accept it as the truth. But how many other aspects of popular culture have you seen that have been dead wrong? [snip] One question destroys the liberal/conservative narrative fiction: Were Stalin, Mao, and Hitler "ultra-liberal"?

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I stopped using "liberal" decades ago, when it was clear that a "classic liberal" had absolutely no connection to the kinds of extreme leftist controling totalitarians that were using that term or "progressive", equally fraudulent.
Perfect division of people, as the author says: Those who want to control others and those who have no such desire.
BINGO!

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Reply 1 - Posted by: smokincol 8/15/2022 12:29:36 AM (No. 1248338)
the people in question are not as we think, "liberal", "leftist" or any such other designation, they are communists and it couldn't be clearer who they are just because of their rhetorical and political intentions in their speech and actions : if we don't realize and name these people as to who they really are, we'll never be able to directly designate the them as such - they have taken off the gloves of decent conduct long ago and the repubs and the rest of us had better do the same, soon
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Krause 8/15/2022 7:11:33 AM (No. 1248438)
The last thing this motley crew of dishonest incompetent democrats should be is ‘central planners.’ Like Biden, they screw up everything they touch.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: thethirdruffian 8/15/2022 7:31:35 AM (No. 1248459)
There are a couple of axis. Control to anarchistic being one. I’m somewhere in the “leave me alone” and I’ll leave you alone
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Reply 4 - Posted by: udanja99 8/15/2022 8:04:14 AM (No. 1248491)
Me too, OP. I generally use “leftist” but may have to take #1’s advice and use “communist” from now on. I lived behind the Iron Curtain for a few years in the early 80s and promise you that the people in America who are demanding socialism/communism have no idea what they are asking for and if they get their way, they will spend the rest of their miserable lives in deep regret.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: DeweyCA 8/15/2022 8:07:19 AM (No. 1248497)
An old excellent short YouTube video on this is at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJEuZrvNYg0&ab_channel=LibertyPopTV. The leftists have an uncontrolled ego that thinks that they are god-like in their abilities. This also fits with Thomas Sowell's concept of "the anointed" who have an "unconstrained" vision of what they can accomplish, whereas conservatives have a "constrained" vision of the human race, including of themselves.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Strike3 8/15/2022 8:31:05 AM (No. 1248521)
At least half of it.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Aud 8/15/2022 8:45:41 AM (No. 1248542)
I wish we could return to the long-time colors for the two parties. Red has always been the go to color of socialists and communists (and was the color of the hated redcoats in the Revolutionary War). Networks like Newsmax should simply switch their images back to blue for Republicans and red for Democrats. Trump and our Republican members of Congress could help by wearing blue neckties!
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Reply 8 - Posted by: joew9 8/15/2022 8:48:06 AM (No. 1248545)
The communist destroyed right wing/left wing back in the 1930's when they tried to pin "right wing" on Hitler. When the USSR broke up in 1990 the hard liners that wanted to hold on to communism were called "right wing". The terms have nothing left to do with free market versus government controlled market. Likewise liberal and conservative have been similarly abused. A century ago liberal used to mean favoring free market capitalism. All these terms have been reduced to just pejoratives. Now you can't say anything anymore without someone redefining what the words meant and condemning you for a message you did not intend.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Hazymac 8/15/2022 8:52:29 AM (No. 1248554)
In total agreement. Instead of liberal and conservative, I prefer the British terms "wet" and "dry." In a lot of ways most of us right of center consider ourselves liberal in the old, proper, sense of the word, which was appropriated by the Left and redefined.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: MDConservative 8/15/2022 9:52:42 AM (No. 1248641)
Whatever terms used, I think most understand who and what we are discussing.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Dr. Constant 8/15/2022 9:57:07 AM (No. 1248650)
Been there, done that. See where you fit! https://www.politicalcompass.org/
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Zigrid 8/15/2022 10:46:11 AM (No. 1248735)
I think that's why MAGA became so quickly accepted by Trumpers...there's no fooling around with the definition of the phrase...it speaks loudly what WE are....America First....
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