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Posted By: PageTurner, 7/14/2022 9:32:20 AM

Recently, I sat in my airplane seat before takeoff and watched a parade of the obese squeeze down the aisle. Many seemed barely able to shuffle through the narrow space; how they would maneuver their bodies into the 18”-wide seats that awaited them was another mystery. Never was it more evident to me how unhealthy our society has become than witnessing that performance. I estimated that at least half the passengers on the airplane appeared sufficiently overweight to be clinically obese. How did this happen? “Something to drink, sir?” asked the polite flight attendant as she passed my row. She placed the famous Southwest snack mix package


A few years ago, I was in Medellin, Colombia and marveling at how the whole city, and other Colombian cities, seemed to be full of thin, fit people. I spent time with Colombians and watched closely how they ate -- it was pretty much like us, three square meals a day, no observable diet restrictions, but I noticed they never snacked. I call that the Colombian Diet Secret and I follow it.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 7/14/2022 9:50:57 AM (No. 1216008)
Snacks on a airline are nothing more than a distraction from the misery you are in while on board.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Zarin 7/14/2022 10:02:48 AM (No. 1216012)
"Never eat while standing up." One quick tip for keeping the weight off! I don't care about the 'organic' part - don't think it make a big difference. The big mess seems to be that there is the sugar & corn syrup & seed oil added to everything! Watch the carbs, they say, and NOT as they go into your mouth. In recent years the big thing - and I don't think it is just a fad- is intermittent fasting. Restrict your eating time within an 8 hour time frame. Don't snack. Don't eat after 7PM (or what ever time works for you) so you can fast for at least 14-16 hours between dinner & breakfast.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: czechlist 7/14/2022 10:07:10 AM (No. 1216017)
The Md knows little to nothing about the dietary habits of his fellow passengers but immediately jumps to the conclusion that it is the result of snacking/diet? There are many contributing variables involved. I have known many people with the same drinking, smoking, eating, exercise habits. Some lived and are living long lives and a few died young. His preaching is comparable to climate change alarmists blaming CO2 and ignoring other factors.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 7/14/2022 10:09:53 AM (No. 1216020)
The interesting thing is that Americans still live into their '80s
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Kate318 7/14/2022 10:19:16 AM (No. 1216034)
Took the family on a jaunt down to Oceans of Fun in KC a few weeks ago. Now, I could stand to lose a few pounds, but the obesity on parade was appalling. I would bet that 75% of the people I saw were at least 50-100 lbs. overweight. All the adults in our party commented on it. It was beyond disturbing; it was alarming.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: paral04 7/14/2022 10:21:56 AM (No. 1216036)
Mentioning obese passengers, many years ago I lived in Puerto Rico before jets. When you wanted to fly, they weighed you and your luggage on the scale at the check-in counter. If you and your stuff weighed more than a certain amount, you were charged an excess baggage fee. It seems the fair thing to do. I weigh 140 and if my luggage weighs 62 lbs then I will pay an excess baggage fee on 12 pounds. Now, the total weight of flying me is 212 pounds. Now, someone who has 50 pound luggage but weighs 240 pounds pays no excess weight fees. That stinks!!. We need to go back to the pre-jet process and have these obese people pick up their fair share. Also, if we ever need to abandon ship, these very heavy people can't let anyone by and it is dangerous.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter 7/14/2022 10:26:23 AM (No. 1216042)
There's something to be said about the absence of overweight Americans in photos of crowded street scenes from the forties, fifties, and sixties. It's not because everyone was poor and couldn't afford to eat.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 7/14/2022 10:42:07 AM (No. 1216054)
Airports and airplanes are great places to observe obese people, many of whom need to get dressed. In my opinion, obesity in most cases shows lack of self-discipline.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Axeman 7/14/2022 10:42:21 AM (No. 1216056)
If someone eats well most of the time the little snack pack will do nothing. Natural organic life made material contains thousands of substances we could never name in combinations we could never imagine. Plants are experts at chemical warfare. So are insects. Weight control: Calories input < or = calories expended. Snacking adds calories but if you are on your feet all day it may be net zero. If you sit all day you better not have a jar of M&Ms and Reese's on your desk and a bag of Doritos in front of the TV. Aerobic exercise at any level. Anything that increases heart rate and breathing. Dancing is the funnest, IMO. Core exercise every day. These are so simple! Try to push the door frame apart, push down on the chair arms, planks, lay on your back and hold your feet up, however long you can. Squeeze your hands on the steering wheel apart or together at stop lights. Balance on one foot, or just the toes. These things can be done all the time. It's really a mindset thing.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: The Remnants 7/14/2022 10:46:53 AM (No. 1216059)
Once upon a time, you'd have a sugar bowl on the table to add sweetener to your cereal, whatever. No more. Sugar is in everything. As the doctor tells us, read the ingredients. If the list of ingredients is too long, don't buy it. The ingredients at the top of the list are those that have biggest percentage in the product. And have you ever seen a skinny person drink a can of diet soda? Skip it. It does not make anyone skinny. Read the ingredients.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Daisymay 7/14/2022 10:57:42 AM (No. 1216070)
So funny that he should notice. We recently flew (Southwest) and noticed that the Two Biggest people at our gate getting on the Plane (who happened to be Black) shoved their way down the Aisle with their Huge, overstuffed carryon shoulder bags, PLUS a carryon Suitcase, plus each of them had a full meal in carryout Bags from one of the hugely expensive Restaurants in the Southwest wing of the Airport. It was almost funny to watch them. They settled in the 3 seats across from us, and left the middle Seat empty. Several times the Flight Attendant announced this was a "sold out flight" so make empty seats available to those looking to be seated. Their Middle Seat Was never used. Would you want to sit between Two 300 Plus pound Adults who had their meals plus their "Shoulder Bags" that were supposed to go under the seat in front of them? It would have been comical if it were not so sad that they could have cared less about anyone else on that Plane! When the plane landed, they were first to stand in the Aisle (we were about 5 seats from the front of the plane) and then held up everyone while they searched for their Stuff on the seats, under the seats and in the overhead Bins! Meanwhile, everyone waited!! Including us!!! Really honked me off!
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Rather Read 7/14/2022 11:03:21 AM (No. 1216084)
I grew up in the 50s and 60s. We ate three meals a day and always had dessert. But cola was a once a week treat, snacks were limited and fast food when it appeared was in a small portion. When you got old, you got stout and there were a couple of people I knew who were fat but most everyone else was average sized. Also, I never knew anyone with type 2 diabetes and never met anyone with a peanut allergy.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 7/14/2022 11:08:04 AM (No. 1216093)
Now worries! The WHO is all over this. They will eradicate the crisis of obesity by 2030.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: RayLRiv 7/14/2022 11:23:15 AM (No. 1216112)
There's also the element that wants to glorify the morbidly obese - singer (?) and model (?) Lizzo. I do not find her rolls of morbidly obese fat spilling out of a thong bikini the least attractive.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: DVC 7/14/2022 11:32:20 AM (No. 1216125)
Certainly that list of ingredients in the infant formula is very off-putting. Almost all of what he says is right and sensible. But the differences between his "organic" and normal farm foods is almost entirely marketing BS, IMO. Yes, I have figured out that butter instead of the various margarine things is healthier, even for someone who had a cardiac arterial blockage almost 20 years ago. Any of the oils that have been chemically modified to be solid at room temp are likely to be bad for you. That is usually "hydrogenated", which they were proud of 50 years ago when the anti-butter fraud was still in full voice. I changed my diet a bit, adding a good bit of fish and fish oil with my vitamins and exercise more,and take a small dose of a statin and for decades my blood lipids have been excellent, and no more issues with my heart. Biking about 40-60 miles a week helps a good bit. My 40 year old cardiologist told me that he'd like to "swap blood lipid tests" with me. And vitamins are critical, too. Especially higher vitamin D3, which requires a proper accompanying amount of Vitamin K2-7 to keeps the calcium liberated by the D3 going to your bones and teeth rather than to inappropriate places like arteries. I'm convinced that low D3 levels due to lack of skin exposure to sunshine, and living too far from the equator, and indoors so much, is one of the most widespread root causes of poor health in modern societies. It is a major big deal. Since I got my Vitamin D3 levels up, I haven't had any colds or flu in the last 30+ years. Never missed a day of work over that period, either. And no mRNA shots, and no Wuhan virus in myself, or my wife. She's been cooking lowered fat, lower salt, healthy foods since the 1980s, and as we learn more about better diet, that is added. When I had my minor heart problem in the early 2000s, I spent about an hour going over my diet with a dietician who specialized in cardiac patients, with my wife present. This was done with two different dieticians, due to different doctors being involved, ordering redundant work At the end of an hour long Q&A session with each, the summary was "Well, you won't have to change your diet significantly." We had already been eating properly for decades, although in the early years, our understanding of Vitamin D3 was lacking, that research was only available in the 2000s and onward, mostly. I think you can save a lot of money doing basically what he says, with some of the IMO over-the-top ultra organic stuff dialed down a bit. But, the only harm of "organic" is to your pocketbook and your choices of items. Organic healthy, but I doubt in most cases it is significant. Yes, avoid the animal hormones. Eating no-hormone beef rather than "grass fed all organic"....IMO, the differences are irrelevant. This is a minor fine point on what I think is a good article, just a bit pedantic on the organic stuff. He's right, most people really eat a lot of horrible junk, and WAY too much of it. Too little exercise, and shortages of critical vitamins add up to poor health for a lot of people.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: cedar 7/14/2022 11:56:34 AM (No. 1216160)
DVC, statins are evil. It will do a lot of damage to your body. Just cutting out one thing -- sugar (including artificial sugar) -- will do wonders.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: earlybird 7/14/2022 12:17:32 PM (No. 1216178)
Re #2, nothing is more delicious than a cold slice of apple pie eaten over the sink before the family gets up...
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Bur Oak 7/14/2022 12:23:14 PM (No. 1216182)
People are fat because they eat more calories than they use. Either reduce calories or engage in more physical activity or both. Quite simple really.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: formerNYer 7/14/2022 12:58:24 PM (No. 1216232)
#9 & #18 hit right on the nose - take in less calories than what you burn and exercise, damn it! Start slow by walking, no need to spend any money on exercise equipment. I was 205 pounds and had a mild heart attack, after a stint to take care of a blockage, I vowed to get fit. When I first got to cardiac rehab after my stint I couldn't walk on a treadmill for 5 minutes without getting winded. Now I'm 155 lbs and bike and/or spin class 240 miles a month. Anybody can do it you got to want to.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Rubinski 7/14/2022 1:14:38 PM (No. 1216255)
Do you want to lose weight? Get a prescription for semaglutide or Tirezepatide. You can easily lose 15-30% of your body weight over the course of 6 months to a year. The drugs are not stimulants so they’re same for older people and people with heart conditions. They make you feel fuller for longer.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: DVC 7/14/2022 1:20:27 PM (No. 1216257)
Re #16, yes many say that about statins. IME, a small dose of statins has helped my lipids very noticeably and caused no side effects at all. I found it impossible to get my HDL above about 32, well below the recommended 40, despite much exercise, which increases HDL. Low dose statin got my HDL now consistently to 42 level, and LDLs down to 50s, total cholesterol in the 90-110 range for years. Many have muscle issues with statins, I know this. Perhaps my high levels of vitamins, or my high doses of fish oil helps, but I'm sticking with the low dose statins, in use for nearly 20 years now. If they cause problems for you, stop it. They help me and I'll continue. And "all things in moderation" is a good idea. As to the obesity....when I started traveling in the former soviet states in the early 2000s, I noticed a great difference in the number of obese people, most dramatically the 20-40 year old females. In Ukraine, Russia, Armenia and Georgia a fat girl in that age range was very rare. In the USA, I'd bet at least 50% in that age range are 30-50 lbs overweight. It was across all age brackets, too, but most glaring in that younger women.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Corndoggies 7/14/2022 1:44:41 PM (No. 1216284)
My ex MIL was a skinny little bird of a woman. Very nice lady but she had high cholesterol. My then hubs and I would tell her to throw that margarine in the trash and use real butter but she never believed us. She died of lung cancer and she was a heavy smoker. Unfiltered Pall Malls with a tip. She was something.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: udanja99 7/14/2022 2:13:48 PM (No. 1216325)
You know those little boxes they use at the gate to see if your roller-bag will fit in the overhead? They need to have those to see if you’ll fit in your seat. If you don’t fit in the box, you should be required to buy two adjacent seats. Same if you need a seatbelt extender. There’s not much more annoying or uncomfortable than enduring a flight where the person next to you is taking up half of your seat.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Philipsonh 7/14/2022 2:29:33 PM (No. 1216336)
The doctor/author JUST noticed that a large % of the population is fat to obese. I am just wondering where he spends his time ? I see them whenever I go ANYPLACE, be it a store, a restaurant, a medical office, etc.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: rocket-j-squirrel 7/14/2022 3:26:31 PM (No. 1216384)
I admit in my early 20s being somewhat of a food slut. My commute to the oil patch location was 80 miles so my truck's dashboard was littered with Slim Jims, nacho flavored Doritos, Hostess cupcakes, Vienna sausages, and whatever caught my eye at the gas station counter. A guy who worked on my tower enjoyed crackers smeared with peanut butter and mustard. We didn't claim to be chefs. I'll throw this out there for the "watch your diet" crowd. How many skinny nurses have you encountered? Why is there a designated smoking area filled with hospital staff? As Jim Morrison said. "Nobody leaves this place alive." I miss those jars of pickled sausages, darn it!
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Tet Vet 68 7/14/2022 3:38:33 PM (No. 1216387)
I was stationed in Germany for five years 86-91. The one thing I noticed immediately the Germans are a nation of walkers. This keeps their weight down for the most part and even heavy people walk a lot over there. Came back to the US on leave and noticed at the airport just how many Americans are overweight and out of shape. This weight problem we have is a self inflicted wound that can be corrected by walking for 30--40 minutes a day like Germans do.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: MDConservative 7/14/2022 3:52:01 PM (No. 1216399)
Thank you, Doc, for your observations. Now here is mine...we need food control. Yes, obesity kills more people prematurely than firearms, and there is no 2A to protect the people from government controlling their food, both contents and intake. Think of all the public money that could be saved on Medicaid and Medicare if government controlled our food. How marvelous. I'm sure those who are sooo upset about American obesity will write their congressman and senators in full support of dietary regulations based on the USDA food pyramid and calorie recommendations. Then run that gas up to $20/gallon to encourage biking or walking. Add a tax to finance dietary and physical education in every school's curriculum. Oh, and let's also ban video games and smartphones, two more inhibitors of physical activity...and stop industries from employing robots or other labor-saving devices. Maybe deliver school lessons at standing desks, or at least sitting on pilates balls. Skim milk and gluten free, low carb, no sugar-added school lunches...etc. Ban the Potato Chip!! #6 - Exactly how are YOU being cheated if a heavier passenger with maximum "free" luggage boards a plane to fly to the same destination? The charges are known upfront. You're example (62 pounds) exceeds the individual max piece weight, which exposes the luggage handlers to greater risk of injury. Don't like the luggage rules, take another airline. Southwest gives passengers two bags free. One could also argue the policy you propose would discriminate against males, who tend to be heavier than women by about 20 pounds according to the latest figures. So each gets 20 pounds less luggage allowance?
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Catherine 7/14/2022 4:00:01 PM (No. 1216407)
Sure are a lot of comments about overweight people by those who assume they have all the answers. You don't. But us fatties do appreciate the input. We rarely go a day without hearing it.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: GirlwithaCurl 7/14/2022 4:45:10 PM (No. 1216439)
Obese folks cannot fit into a stadium seat. If they do try and squeeze into one, it's a real problem for their neighbors when they try and stand back up. The beer goes everywhere. Their tickets have to be exchanged for the handicapped areas which have portable, folding chairs.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: zoidberg 7/14/2022 5:02:31 PM (No. 1216453)
#14 - Lizzo is a roll model.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Aubreyesque 7/14/2022 5:13:24 PM (No. 1216461)
I think it is a result of all sweeteners being HFCs (corn syrup) and SOY in EVERYTHING. I mean take a look at your average grocery store flyer and you will almost ALWAYS see 3 12-paks of Coca Cola (or any other soda, ALL of which are basically corn syrup and carbonated water) for sale every week and twice that much for holiday weekends, and then no matter WHAT package you pick up, SOY is used in everything. Yes, I know people have the right to drink as much cola and eat as much prepackaged foods as they like, but when the grocery stores make those items the singular things that people can "save money on" it is NOT outside reason to see the psychological manipulation. This is why so many diets these days consist of people prepping their own food where they can control what goes into it. Its not always the amount eaten, it is the quality and the mass produced stuff that people always look at as a bargain ends up undermining any real effort to control our weight. Im not saying the HFCs and soy are the only factors, just that it doesnt take much to take note of what is actually on our grocery shelves and offered as 'bargains" in the flyers to understand its a problem more pervasive than just people overeating. We've been made addicts of these things...
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The good Samaritan who shot and killed the gunman who opened fire in the Greenwood Park Mall in Indiana on Sunday afternoon reportedly broke the property's policy against weapons. The suspected shooter entered the mall on Sunday carrying a rifle and multiple magazines and opened fire in the food court, killing at least three and injuring three before he was shot to death. Greenwood Police Chief Jim Ison said the suspected shooter was killed by a "good Samaritan with a handgun." While the armed bystander reportedly had a legal gun permit, the mall's property policy does not permit weapons on the premises.
Former Trump COVID Honcho Birx Admits
to Deceiving the White House and Just
Making Stuff up to Push Her Personal Agenda
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Posted by ladydawgfan 7/18/2022 12:47:44 AM Post Reply
Dr. Deborah Birx, White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator for President Trump, launched her book about her one-person attack on our form of government and our economy under the guise of saving us from the Wuhan virus. Though it has been out for a couple of months, it is only now attracting the attention it deserves. The book is called Silent Invasion and, to quote Michael Senger, “reads like a how-to guide in subverting a democratic superpower from within, as could only be told through the personal account of someone who was on the front lines doing just that.”
Canada’s ‘expert’ panel recommends
the mentally ill be candidates for euthanasia
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Posted by ladydawgfan 7/19/2022 2:05:53 AM Post Reply
Canada’s medical assistance in dying (MAiD) law is already the most permissive euthanasia and assisted-suicide legislation in the world. Understandably controversial in itself, there are many horror stories surrounding its implementation. For example, as recently reported, A 71-year-old widower was admitted to a Southwestern Ontario hospital after a fall. His family says during his admission he contracted an infectious diarrheal illness. He was humiliated by staff for the smell of his room, his family said. He developed a new shortness of breath that was not comprehensively assessed. In this context, a hospital team member suggested he would qualify for MAiD.
Dem Cori Bush Hates White People, Claims
'They Are Taking Over the U.S.'
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Posted by ladydawgfan 7/18/2022 2:25:56 AM Post Reply
Squad member and Rep. Cori Bush (D-Mo), who is constantly pulling the race card every chance she gets, asserted that she hates white people and that the U.S. is under attack by them. In a tweet, the left-wing lawmaker said there is a growing “white supremacist movement” in not only her state of Missouri, but throughout the whole nation. “We’re facing threats from a growing far-right, white supremacist movement across Missouri and the country,” Bush tweet, adding “But I’ve seen the power we hold when we come together. We’ve proven it & we’ll never back down. There’s so much at stake. Let’s continue this work. Together.”
Trump-Backed Mehmet Oz Claims ‘MAGA
Movement Is Dying’ in Fundraising Message
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Posted by Dreadnought 7/19/2022 12:40:33 AM Post Reply
Mehmet Oz, the Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Pennsylvania endorsed by former President Donald Trump, claimed the “MAGA movement is dying” in a fundraising message sent to his supporters. Oz won Pennsylvania’s GOP Senate primary by a narrow margin with the help of Trump’s endorsement. The former president claimed that Oz “will be the one most able to win the General Election against a Radical Left Democrat looking to do unthinkable harm to our Country.” Now, Oz is reportedly fundraising by warning his supporters that the “MAGA movement is dying.”
Pence endorses rival to Trump-backed candidate
in Arizona GOP gubernatorial primary
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Posted by Beardo 7/18/2022 1:02:30 PM Post Reply
Former Vice President Pence is once again at odds with his one-time boss, former President Trump. Pence on Monday endorsed real estate developer and Arizona Board of Regents member Karrin Taylor Robson in next month’s GOP gubernatorial primary in the race to succeed term-limited GOP Gov. Doug Ducey. (snip) Taylor Robson is one of the two polling front-runners in the Republican primary in a field of four candidates, along with former TV news anchor Kari Lake, who for months has been supported by Trump.
Kick Joe Manchin out of the Democratic
Party, ex-Labor Secretary Robert Reich
says: 'Already lost control'
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Posted by NorthernDog 7/18/2022 1:32:28 PM Post Reply
Former Democratic Labor Secretary Robert Reich believes it may be time for Democrats to kick Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., out of the party because they "already lost control over the Senate" and can’t get anything done despite appearing to have power. Reich, who served as secretary of Labor under President Clinton and was a member of President Obama’s economic transition advisory board, wrote on Substack that kicking Manchin out of the party would at least allow Democrats to admit they didn’t truly have control when Americans head off to vote in the looming midterm elections. Manchin's office had reportedly told
Swedish LGBT Writer Demands Mosques Welcome
and Include Homosexuals
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Posted by Beardo 7/18/2022 8:32:12 AM Post Reply
Swedish writer Jonas Gardell has demanded that mosques welcome and include members of the LGBT community and examine their attitudes toward homosexuals following the Oslo gay pub shooting. Jonas Gardell, who self-identifies as gay, stated that after two people were killed in last month’s Oslo shooting at a well-known gay pub ahead of the city’s Pride festivities, mosques should be more inclusive toward the LGBT community. The main suspect in the Oslo attack, Iranian national Zaniar Matapour, is said to have been linked to radical Islamic extremists who were also linked to the Islamic State terrorist group.
Sanders accuses Manchin of ‘intentionally
sabotaging’ Biden’s agenda by opposing
Build Back Better
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Posted by Black Conservative Voice 7/18/2022 5:53:20 AM Post Reply
Sen. Bernie Sanders accused Sen. Joe Manchin of “intentionally sabotaging” President Biden’s agenda after the West Virginia Democrat pulled his support from legislation that included initiatives to battle climate change and raise taxes on corporations and wealthy individuals. “He has sabotaged the president’s agenda,” Sanders (I-Vt.) said Sunday on ABC News’ “This Week.” “If you check the record, six months ago, I made it clear that you have people like Manchin, Sinema to a lesser degree, who are intentionally sabotaging the president’s agenda, what the American people, what a majority of us in the Democratic caucus want. Nothing new about this,” he told host Martha Raddatz, referring to Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema.
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