Nearly $2tn of damage inflicted on other
countries by US emissions
Guardian [U.K.],
by
Oliver Milman
Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon,
7/12/2022 12:19:11 PM
The US has inflicted more than $1.9tn in damage to other countries from the effects of its greenhouse gas emissions, according to a new analysis that has provided the first measurement of nations’ liability in stoking the climate crisis. The huge volume of planet-heating gases pumped out by the US, the largest historical emitter, has caused such harm to other, mostly poor, countries through heatwaves, crop failures and other consequences that the US is responsible for $1.91tn in lost global income since 1990, the study found. This puts the US ahead of China, currently the world’s leading emitter, Russian, India and Brazil as the next largest contributors to global
Reply 1 - Posted by:
RobertJ984 7/12/2022 12:21:09 PM (No. 1214069)
Prove it
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Debrawr 7/12/2022 12:22:09 PM (No. 1214070)
Give us your money!
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Lala 7/12/2022 12:24:12 PM (No. 1214075)
Total BS, you money-grubbing grifters. Maybe after India and China and Russia pay their fare share for the pollution they’ve released into the world, we can talk. Until then, stuff it.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Mass Minority 7/12/2022 12:26:08 PM (No. 1214081)
Would like to see the assumptions and weighting given to all the data. Its a pretty good bet that this study is similar to all those UN sponsored studies on most happy countries or most economically fair countries or best governe or best quality of life countrys that always get the US pretty much dead last. Then you look at the criteria and they always make sure that 50 to 75% of the score is based on a single payer government health system.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
ASAvet 7/12/2022 12:26:15 PM (No. 1214082)
What a bunch of crap....
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
sanspeur 7/12/2022 12:29:13 PM (No. 1214092)
wait ..if it is the uk uks …no ..the ukrainian uks ? ..give ‘em even more of OUR tax $$$ asap
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Pammie 7/12/2022 12:30:21 PM (No. 1214096)
Marxist F@@@tards....ALL!
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
marbles 7/12/2022 12:31:43 PM (No. 1214099)
When you can't blame Trump, blame America for your own failures.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
TLCary 7/12/2022 12:33:39 PM (No. 1214109)
Even if it were true, America has been the single greatest source of prosperity these other countries have ever seen. America has increased standards of living, life expectancy and opportunity for billions of people for decades. If it weren't a lie, It's a rounding error and the price of doing business. They sell us cars and we pay for them, they sell us oil and we pay them, now they want to sue us for using them? Lets get China to pay the bill for the damage COVID19 has caused us first, then pay this off with 1% of that check.
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Guardian has an agenda. I see Guardian reports as not credible every time.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
stablemoney 7/12/2022 12:41:35 PM (No. 1214127)
I need $1B of reparations for all the pain, mental stress, and suffering caused by the socialists. The pain has extended over a lifetime, and should include additional punitive damages of 3X.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Quigley 7/12/2022 12:41:47 PM (No. 1214130)
Odd that the article doesn’t describe a single instance of “damage.”
FTA: “The chief impediment to claims by one country against another for climate damages isn’t their scientific basis, it’s their legal basis,” said Michael Gerrard, director of the Sabin Center for Climate Change Law at Columbia Law School.
Absence of proof is an impediment in the legal setting. Not in the grant application setting. Not in the unsubstantiated assertion setting. Not in the political setting. Schmoe will gladly dole those sums out and let one of huncher’s companies administer it.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
jalo1951 7/12/2022 12:45:08 PM (No. 1214134)
Actually no one has cleaned up more than us. Let's check China, India.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Kate318 7/12/2022 12:45:50 PM (No. 1214136)
Spare me. And, just how much have those “planet-heating gasses pumped out by the US” fed the world, clothed the world, created jobs for the world, given technology to the world and given emergency aid to the world? Stick it up your backside, Oliver from the UK.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
BarryNo 7/12/2022 12:47:52 PM (No. 1214140)
Really? Then if we have moved our manufacturing out of country, are those foreign nations in turn inflicting damage on us? Or is it still considered U.S. emissions? And what about Chernobyl? What about the myriad of waste dumps the Soviet union has created? What about the Rare Earth mines? The Canadian Nickel mine can be sen from space. But somehow, only the U.S. is at fault?
Stuff it!!!
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
billsv 7/12/2022 12:49:27 PM (No. 1214143)
the ultra liberal left wing Guardian is nuts
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam 7/12/2022 12:52:37 PM (No. 1214146)
Bless their little thieving hearts.
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A UN report that didn’t blame Israel, too? They’re slipping.
Not up to their usual standards.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Rich323 7/12/2022 1:03:08 PM (No. 1214164)
Oh probably the same kind of models that drove the Covid scamdemic! The climate change models are known fraud, so tying emissions to fraudulent temperature models is fraudulent. Climate Scamdemic is redistribution of US wealth and nothing more. Biden has already started by giving billions to Ukraine.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 7/12/2022 1:08:57 PM (No. 1214171)
The Guardian is for far commie-left - - that it makes the New York Slimes seem reasonable - - an almost impossible achievement.
They also seem to forget - - that if it weren't for the USA - - they'd be writing their editorials in German - - that is - - if they still were allowed to write editorials.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
volksford 7/12/2022 1:09:15 PM (No. 1214172)
If I recall correctly greenhouse gases emitted by our air planes and from our farms were responsible for the Marshall Plan , Berlin Airlift , and feeding disaster areas across the globe . So shut your Marxist pie holes !
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
lynngirl122 7/12/2022 1:11:09 PM (No. 1214175)
I call BS. Try India and China.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
JunkYardDog 7/12/2022 1:12:54 PM (No. 1214178)
99% of all the plastic trash floating in the mid-Pacific comes from 2 rivers in Asia and one in Africa. And when comparing economies of scale, the US contribution to global air pollution pales in comparison from the emissions from China, India, and Russia. Those countries haven't slowed down build coal-fired power plants one iota. This is just another shakedown. Go pound sand!
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Talk2 7/12/2022 1:19:17 PM (No. 1214184)
How do you spell LOAD OF CRAP?
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Proud Texan 7/12/2022 1:22:41 PM (No. 1214185)
2 trillion against tens or hundreds of trillions of dollars aide we have given to the world including saving Europe in two world wars and furnishing them defense ever since, along with send aide to Africa for the last century to feed, clothe, and medicine to help them survive their never-ending droughts. I think it is time the rest of the world starts paying us back in return for carrying the load for them for so long.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Starboard_side 7/12/2022 1:22:45 PM (No. 1214186)
Love how they stretch it all the way back to 1990 (32 years ago), but if you simply divide 32 into $2 trillion, you get $62,500,000,000 per year.
Which is now nearly a rounding error with today's Congress.
Not really sure how they conclude the emissions generated decades ago create anything that's happened today, or last year.
They need to link what the United States was like years ago, when we are the only country who was on target to meet the Paris Accord goals mostly due to switch to using Natural Gas instead of Coal, but the enviro-nuts don't want anyone using that either.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
formerNYer 7/12/2022 1:24:44 PM (No. 1214188)
the sky is falling the sky is falling!!!!!
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Vaquero45 7/12/2022 1:39:27 PM (No. 1214192)
Total BS, as is typical from the Guardian.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Luandir 7/12/2022 1:40:03 PM (No. 1214194)
Be sure to factor in the emissions I am sending in your general direction.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
DVC 7/12/2022 1:46:03 PM (No. 1214200)
Total Bull Manure. Not one hint of one fact that supports this ludicrous, stupid assertion.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
rochow 7/12/2022 1:47:46 PM (No. 1214202)
Total rubbish. Just trying to bilk the US out of money. Go to China and look at the dirty rivers, Others don' run any longer, too polluted. But the potted plant will pay them, a) to make us poorer, b) trying to make himself look great and understanding the green problem. Right. The world knows what an idiot he has always been, so they will try to get money out of the US!
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
erobot 7/12/2022 1:48:10 PM (No. 1214204)
Hey, is a tn the one with 12 zeroes?
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
sterling431 7/12/2022 2:11:35 PM (No. 1214227)
The free market has don’t more to reduce air pollution than anything the Gov has done. I remember smog days in California and elsewhere back in the 70’s. CatLytic converters, natural gas supplanting coal, etc. but it’s never enough for damn liberals hence their constant droning on about the earth ending in X years. There is no evidence to support their doomsday scenarios. That leaves their forecasting record. The big scare in the 70’ was the
coming ice age that would freeze all to death. Screw these fear mongers. They’re never right in anything they predict. Zero!
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
CivilServant 7/12/2022 2:20:15 PM (No. 1214233)
Might not like my idea but…..
Nuke BRIC and that’ll take care of it.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 7/12/2022 2:23:36 PM (No. 1214236)
Pound Carbon Dioxide, you losers.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
sg 7/12/2022 2:27:58 PM (No. 1214241)
#9, ...and don't forget, if it wasn't for us, the USA, half the world would starve.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
MindMadeUp 7/12/2022 2:29:55 PM (No. 1214246)
Well, you and the Guardian have inflicted $100tn worth of damage from climate cult BS on the world (at least) according to a new analysis (my own, which is guaranteeably more accurate than your "study" with it's predetermined outcome.)
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
Mizz Fixxit 7/12/2022 2:35:24 PM (No. 1214255)
Garbage. Dartmouth researchers who did a “study” with a predetermined outcome. I lost interest in the article. Did Oliver Milman say who funded this?
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
Zigrid 7/12/2022 2:36:52 PM (No. 1214259)
Here it comes folks....America is responsible for all the bad emissions ...not china and India known as the worst polluters...but Washington DC and the new world order have decided that Americans must pay their taxpayer's dollars to please Kerry and soros and the oligarchs in Davos ...same ole...same ole...like President Trump said...America has to pay for everything and get cheated in the process...
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
judy 7/12/2022 2:39:23 PM (No. 1214263)
Does this include 97% of the made in China products in the US???
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 7/12/2022 2:41:39 PM (No. 1214266)
Black reparations meet environmental reparations.
The left has a new cause. They will be sure to position themselves so they benefit.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
cheeflo 7/12/2022 2:44:50 PM (No. 1214270)
Now tell us all about China, Russia, and India.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
red1066 7/12/2022 2:54:28 PM (No. 1214282)
What's the bill for China and India? I'll bet it's at least double.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
Birddog 7/12/2022 3:03:32 PM (No. 1214292)
All but one of those listed are in the Northern Hemisphere...Brazil....all of the "damaged" countries are in the southern hemisphere, look at the actual climatic wind/weather, air/water flow circulation patterns for the Two Hemispheres...WHERE does any crossover occur that moves ANY atmosphere from one to the other? It does not...anywhere. There is quite literally NO mixing until you are at altitudes much higher than ANY weather effects are generated or felt at all. None of the "Worst Countries" are anywhere near the equator...which is the physical and atmospheric dividing line
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
coyote 7/12/2022 3:12:20 PM (No. 1214299)
Who did the "study?"
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Reply 46 - Posted by:
Sully 7/12/2022 3:28:58 PM (No. 1214306)
Excuse me but we were a little busy winning the Cold War and ensuring Free Market Self Rule Democracy around the entire freaken globe. 19 Aircraft carriers take real energy to build and deploy.
If you care about carbon, the only relevant measure is: who is belching out the most going forward. That would be the emerging economies of the huge BRICS bloc. Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa.
These bleep hole countries should "Build It First Better!" Go green BRICS! Let's see ya "emerge" as green industrialized states!
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Reply 47 - Posted by:
JackBurton 7/12/2022 3:29:59 PM (No. 1214308)
Years ago, a client of mine who had been downsized from a big three auto co. job and went on to set up a consulting business in 'alternative fuels' (ethanol) told me about an incident. He was called upon by a government board to give info about ethanol. While waiting to be questioned, he talked with a climate expert who worked with a government agency. She told him that air was tested all over the U.S. for CO2 content. Air coming in over the west coast, from the Pacific (and China) had a higher CO2 content than air LEAVING the U.S. over the East Coast to the Atlantic. The U.S. IS A CARBON SINK. So, where's the beef?
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Reply 48 - Posted by:
moebellini3 7/12/2022 3:38:58 PM (No. 1214319)
Another total bullsh** story by the greenies who hate our country. Al they do is talk while for the last 50 years not one of their dire predictions has come to fruition. Yea things are so bad that Barack Hussein Obama is building a mansion on ocean front property in Hawaii. What happened to the oceans are rising prediction. Screw them and their green agenda. Nothing but a bunch of sick freakin puppies. Got it
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Reply 49 - Posted by:
jimincalif 7/12/2022 3:44:44 PM (No. 1214331)
Pay us back for saving the UK’s and Europe’s bacon in WW1, WW2, the Cold War and ongoing NATO ops, and then we can talk. Until then, put a sock in it.
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Reply 50 - Posted by:
Hermit_Crab 7/12/2022 3:54:25 PM (No. 1214345)
They should build giant walls around their borders to keep our nasty emissions out.
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Reply 51 - Posted by:
bad-hair 7/12/2022 4:21:55 PM (No. 1214378)
And then there's China and India ...
Why is it still called India when Bombay is Mumbai ? Shouldn't it be Mumblia or something ?
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Reply 52 - Posted by:
AbingtonJim 7/12/2022 4:49:05 PM (No. 1214391)
It's always about the Benjamins.
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Reply 53 - Posted by:
MissMann 7/12/2022 11:28:29 PM (No. 1214673)
Laying the pretext for another money grab, courtesy of the American Tax Payer.
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Reply 54 - Posted by:
mifla 7/13/2022 5:24:52 AM (No. 1214774)
The entire world thinks the USA is an ATM machine.
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Reply 55 - Posted by:
broken01 7/13/2022 8:45:35 AM (No. 1214927)
This is coming from the Guardian. They're counting on the mush headed left who actual believes that we produce more so called harmful emissions than either China or India. Both Shanghai and Mumbai make smog laden Los Angeles look like a clear and bright sunny day city.
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