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In the Ukraine Proxy War,What Price Victory?

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Posted By: sagman, 5/9/2022 9:58:04 PM

"Victory has a thousand fathers," said John F. Kennedy, "but defeat is an orphan." By that measure, America is running a military establishment that more closely resembles an overpopulated Dickensian sweat shop than a modern war machine. Indeed, it's been so long since the United States has won a war -- back when the War Department still existed, in fact -- that hardly any living American knows what "victory" means any more. But what difference does it make? This man's army is now the province of pregnant females, transsexuals, and born-male admirals in skirts. No wonder it can't fight.

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Walsh is right: we are pushing Putin into a corner and practically daring him to do something about it. Biden and his advisers are playing a very dangerous game, and most Americans have no clue how badly this can end. For sheer terror, this situation beats the Cuban Missile Crisis, hands down.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Venturer 5/9/2022 10:04:54 PM (No. 1151088)
There is a lot of truth in this.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Quigley 5/9/2022 10:41:29 PM (No. 1151110)
Why this manic move to put nato weapons systems in Ukraine ? Couldn’t the Mummified Possum at least tell us why- or does he think “Putin’s a war criminal” or “for God’s sake this man cannot remain in power [dramatically spoken while rending his wrappings]” constitutes a reason? This PoS won’t be satisfied until he has fulfilled obumbum’s warning (or promise). Here’s to hoping we don’t have a nuclear event and that The Possum doesn’t destabilize Russia. Aren’t there enough problems in the world? Do more problems really make the looting that much better?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: watashiyo 5/9/2022 11:46:00 PM (No. 1151134)
Should the U.S. risk a nuclear war with Russia to defend a corrupt government(Ukraine) or cut a face-saving deal for Putin to end the war? The latter is preferred.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: ussjimmycarter 5/10/2022 12:35:25 AM (No. 1151157)
Really smart! Dead on assessment of where Obama and Susan Rice are leading Brandon! Barry is a commie pinko gay who hates America! Prepare for the worst! Something terrible is on the way!
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Reply 5 - Posted by: konocti95 5/10/2022 1:20:56 AM (No. 1151165)
The Ukrainians probably decided, considering the past five or six hundred years of history, that those who live under the boot of Moscow do poorly. The reason the Russians didn't roll through Kiev is the reason living under Putin or Stalin or Alexander sucks- corruption, secret police, gulags and murder. Putin is the devil they know and they decided not to allow his rule. Churchill said, "It's better to die than to live as slaves." It's difficult to live as free men and the history of the world demonstrates how rare that state actually is.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: lakerman1 5/10/2022 8:10:28 AM (No. 1151247)
My late big brother, a high school dropout, spent six years in the U.S. army, rising to the rank of E 6, (Tech Sgt) serving with the occupational forces in Germany with the 2nd constabulary. His theory of modern war was simple. The U.S., he believed, became involved in wars - Korean, Viet Nam, Iraq, to field test new weapons and tactics. He died in 1999, but if alive today, he would be concerned about getting fully engaged in the Ukraine. And he would be puzzled about Afghanistan and the continuous war in Iraq.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: bigfatslob 5/10/2022 9:53:24 AM (No. 1151322)
I served my country when drafted to go to war. Today I would do everything even illegal things to keep my sons out of the grip of this fraud, insane, dumb down, un-American regime. People posing, not elected, leading us including this disaster of a proxy war with Russia. All I can hope for if Putin decides to nuke us all I hope his first best shot is taken at Washington DC I'm tired of counting on elections.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: MDConservative 5/10/2022 10:46:58 AM (No. 1151367)
FTA: "...the characteristic American sin of regarding all the rest of the world's peoples, cultures, and nations as the rough equivalent, albeit inferior, of our own, and expecting that their savage denizens will react in the same way to the same carrot-and-stick stimuli as our own peasants do." I'm recently returned from the Middle East where an American took exception to separate lines at the airport for the pre-boarding security check of males and females. His 10-year-old daughter was directed to the female line, and he objected strenuously. He was taken by guys in suits to that "backroom", "I'm an American" being the last words heard as the door closed behind him. I didn't see him board the plane, nor his daughter.
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