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Bill Clinton's supreme NATO screw-up comes
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Posted By: DW626, 4/10/2022 1:22:21 PM

Writing in the foreign policy mouthpiece of the Biden administration and the Democratic Party, The Atlantic, former president Bill Clinton attempts to defend his decision to begin the post–Cold War expansion of NATO by naming the members of his foreign policy team, especially the late Madeleine Albright, who supported this move against the advice of George F. Kennan — who knew more about Russia and its history and culture than all of Clinton's advisers combined.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: cor-vet 4/10/2022 1:42:57 PM (No. 1124781)
Of course, you lay the blame at the dead person's feet! After all, good Christians don't speak ill of the dead, unless they were conservatives or conservatives that owned slaves and the good Christians are the Pelosi/Biden type of Christians! And wasn't not-so-Bright the Sec.of State that boogied with Arafat? Besides, no Clinton has ever been wrong or guilty of anything, just like the Bidens.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: MDConservative 4/10/2022 2:01:19 PM (No. 1124790)
Blame Clinton, but the issue is deeper than that, going back much further, as ponted out about Wilson and FDR. Americans have an incredible blind spot when it comes to "democracy". They believe people yearn to be free, without shackles, full liberty. And these Americans are WRONG. It's not even true here at home, as we have seen in spades with COVIDS mandates, shutdowns, and vax demands by government - still supported by a significant number of Americans. The essential fact is that President George Washington gave the proper prescription in his farewell address. It is perpetually ignored by those who feel the US must be "Leaer of the Free World", essentially a ticket to righteously interfere globally at will for "democracy"...in places like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. We are the "defense umbrella" for the effete Euros and others, and happy to do it. Washington said, "Observe good faith & justice towds all Nations cultivate peace & harmony with all—Religion & morality enjoin this conduct; and can it be that good policy does not equally enjoin it? It will be worthy of a free, enlightened, and, at no distant period, a great Nation, to give to mankind the magnanimous and too novel example of a People always guided by an exalted justice & benevolence." What example do we provide the world? He also said, "The Nation, which indulges towards another an habitual hatred, or an habitual fondness, is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one Nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable, when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur." Read Russia and NATO in this context. The USA hasn't had a coherent foreign policy since the collapse of the Soviet Union. It has none today. Meanwhile, the Chinese are spreading their influence around the world through their Belt and Road initiative...spending less last year than our left behind equipment in Afghanistan cost. And the beat goes on...
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Quigley 4/10/2022 2:12:16 PM (No. 1124793)
Well I remember the cuban missile crisis and that seems to be sufficient history to show that Russia would not allow nato weapons in Ukraine. Sitting in his office making war while being pleasured by a teenager sounds about right for the massage parlor addict redneck hillbilly without any of the virtues of a redneck hillbilly. Bidet can definitely relate to that.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Omen55 4/10/2022 2:56:40 PM (No. 1124814)
Those who do NOT learn from History are doomed to repeat it.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Island Life 4/10/2022 3:03:31 PM (No. 1124819)
Not being born and raised here, I really appreciate that information #2.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: stablemoney 4/10/2022 3:55:10 PM (No. 1124833)
I wish the U.S. would withdraw from NATO.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: bighambone 4/10/2022 4:17:47 PM (No. 1124839)
Madeleine Albright was an immigrant from Czechoslovakia and as such was bound to have an affinity for her native land and want to protect what is now the Czech Republic from the Russians. If Clinton was not dreaming about Monica he would have known that.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Rumblehog 4/10/2022 5:11:58 PM (No. 1124876)
Clinton has failed at everything in life, except for gaining political office by dirty tricks. His life is summarized in one blue dress.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: lakerman1 4/10/2022 5:36:24 PM (No. 1124894)
Dollar Bill Clinton's undergraduate maJor at Georgetown was International Relations. The major is good for fraternity house late night bull sessions, and not much else. (Colin Powell would write, years later, that the policy discussions in the White House were exactly that - frat house sessions, where nothing much was ever decided.) Warren Christopher was not an impressive figure, and Madeline was a joke. And it was the year of Monica's Mouth, so...
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Ashley Brenton 4/10/2022 5:58:41 PM (No. 1124906)
Stephen Kotkin points out that Russia acting like this is a pathology that goes back at least 200 years. It is not a response to NATO expansion. This who they are and always have been. And guess what? Every country near them KNOWS this. That's why they all joined NATO. Saying that "NATO expanded eastward" is Kremlin-speak. And using it discredits you. What happened is all those former Warsaw Pact ran to the west. As fast as they could.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: RussZilla 4/10/2022 7:56:33 PM (No. 1124956)
NATO was established to confront the USSR during the old War. NATO has served its purpose. It's time to end NATO.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: watashiyo 4/11/2022 12:37:50 AM (No. 1125124)
Yes, I remember Albright. Kim Jung Un was forced to dance and spend the night with her to secure millions to build the alleged Nuclear Power Plant. They got the money and built nuclear missiles.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Strike3 4/11/2022 7:14:12 AM (No. 1125180)
The democrats bragged that Billy Bob was a Rhodes Scholar so he knew everything about everything except he had his communist indoctrination at Oxford, a nest of spies since the end of WW2. Who knows what went through that head when he wasn't thinking about women? He married Hillary so his judgement obviously wasn't all that good.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Ruhn 4/11/2022 7:31:03 AM (No. 1125183)
Clinton also provided the 'Wag The Dog' template that sock puppet Biden is probably using WRT Ukraine. You may recall that Clinton pushed the defense of Kosovo in what was later named Operation ALLIED FORCE in the early spring of 1999. ALLIED FORCE was supposed to be a NATO-led combat operation. Wesley Clark (SACEUR, self-avowed wunderkind behind the Dayton accords, and Clinton lackey) was to lead and execute the operation. However, the impetus for pushing "Albright's war" and the timing of it was suspect. Reports of Serbian atrocities on a quasi-ethnic group, the Kosovars, turned out to be exaggerated or made from whole cloth. Domestically, Clinton was dealing with the lingering aftermath of his impeachment trial in the Senate, rape and assault allegations (Juanita Broderick, Kathleen Milley), classified (TS/SCI/CI/SAP) information compromises to the ChiComs, among other scandals during his second term. Kosovo was a convenient distraction and deflection from all of that. Fast forward to WH occupant Biden. The overreach of government COVID responses were coming home to roost. Inflation and gasoline prices were--are--at an all-time high. The southern border became an illegal alien superhighway. The Afghanistan pullout fiasco was a national shame and an international embarrassment. The midterm elections are rapidly approaching. Russia-Ukraine/Putin-Zelensky is yet another convenient distraction away from this disaster of Obama's third term. Oh, and let's not forget the swamp and the DNC's vested interest in all things Ukrainian. The country has been their money laundering haven for almost two decades. The firm 'Crowdstrike' was the company from Ukraine privately employed by the DNC for the forensics behind the DNC document dump in 2016 and later concluded and blamed...Russia! for the 'hack'. Gee, I wonder why. Hunter Biden appointed to the Board of Burisma. "The Big Guy" Joe threatened to withhold aid to Ukraine if their government continued to investigate Hunter Biden's illicit nomination to said Board and "...son of a gun! They stopped investigating." The list goes on and on. Take away: In politics, there are no coincidences, especially with the Clintons and the Biden's.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Lawsy0 4/11/2022 8:01:23 AM (No. 1125204)
No Clinton, nowhere, no how, ever did anyone any good at any time. Then there's Joe!
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 4/11/2022 8:31:03 AM (No. 1125227)
In re #2, a lack of a consistent and coherent foreign policy is the very reason America was pulled into WWII.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Zigrid 4/11/2022 10:40:35 AM (No. 1125352)
Pardon my speaking poorly about the dead...but...Madelyn Not So Bright was a prime example of the uneducated left that worked in bubba's administration...I recall a journalist reporting Madelyn liked her trips on Air Force 2 and made sure the finest food was brought on board...she loved the show of her office...which I might add...seems to be the running joke with the Air Force crew...commie/harris is right up there...she thinks she is special...and demands homage from her underlings...which is why...they are quitting in record numbers..
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