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Posted By: Judy W., 1/19/2022 3:09:31 PM

Things keep changing. A few months ago I thought Trump would not run. Then I thought he would run. Now, I don’t think so once again. And one of the tells is the subtle shot he took at DeSantis over vaccines. The fact is that Trump, if he runs, is not a shoo-in. And this could be an epic battle for the chance to beat Kamala Harris like a drum in 2024. And, at least according to people like you who took my most recent Twitter poll, Trump is not a shoo-in. He’s dropped to just one-third support from nearly half six months ago. If he wants to win


I don't have a set opinion on this yet, but he brings up a lot of points to think about. I think he's wrong about Kamala Harris being the Dem candidate, though I don't know who it will be. Maybe Hillary. Or maybe there won't be an election.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Philipsonh 1/19/2022 3:14:07 PM (No. 1044210)
So Trump should not run because the Left will attack him; how about if there is a Republican majority in the House and Senate the Left will just go back to their cesspool.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: millstream 1/19/2022 3:17:29 PM (No. 1044214)
I like Trump's policies and strength of character. He answers questions truthfully. However he is abrasive at times. If Trump runs he wins then we will have 4 yrs of non-stop media criticism. I don't look forward to that distraction. Desantis is more polished and would offer a smaller target for the media
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Reply 3 - Posted by: SilkCity 1/19/2022 3:33:09 PM (No. 1044233)
Let Trump be Trump and win 40 states
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Reply 4 - Posted by: moebellini3 1/19/2022 3:38:34 PM (No. 1044236)
Another freakin idiot. Let me tell ya something bud, Attila the Hun could run and win against any democrat. Only a mentally ill hypocrite could vote for Biden or any other democrat. Do you see what's happened to our country in one year. We are now in 3rd world status because of Biden's policies. What are we now a bunch of illiterates here. Does anybody see what's happening here. Is everybody in a freakin coma. Wake up.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Hugh Akston 1/19/2022 3:41:03 PM (No. 1044238)
No matter who wins in '24 - assuming they have an R after their name - will have 4 years of non-stop criticism. And DeSantis is just as big of a target as Trump is. Trump '24 with 4 years of justified, and hopefully, no-holds-barred, smash mouth against the Dems and the corrupt media. Expose the DOJ and State Dept. He deserves every ounce of political and personal revenge he can exact. Would love to see Peter Navarro back in the executive inner circle. Maybe even Mark Meadows. At least there will be people with accomplishments on their resumes outside of politics, people who actually know how to DO things, instead of political toadys with no real world experience other than their skin color and gender of choice. DeSantis '28 & '32....unless someone else seems better at that point in time. I just know no senators need apply. We need executives. Hat tip to capMarineTet (if I remember his poster name correctly) - RIP. He was adamantly opposed to senators becoming president...and I think with good reason.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: MDConservative 1/19/2022 3:50:09 PM (No. 1044246)
By 2024 the PDT Fan and Adulation Club will be faced with reality, as will FPDT. Right now he's looking more and more like Teddy Roosevelt, with DeSantis playing the role of William Howard Taft. The difference will be whether FPDT can keep himself out of the race in '24, or run against an erstwhile ally. If the election is rigged anyway, what's the difference? Or, are we now conceding the election will be fairly cast and counted? Let's assume FPDT wins the nomination and the '24 election. The high dudgeon machine will be revved beyond its red line. It's 25/75 that PDT gets impeached by the Republican House for something, anything that has legs. The GOPe already has him on notice that they'll not bail him out. He may be the first President removed from office. Don't kid yourself. In the second half the odds rise to 50/50, higher if the Dems have a majority in either chamber. Regardless, the kitchen sinks will start flying from the day he announces...and what will New Hampshire and Iowa make of it? The Trumpistas need a Plan B. It doesn't appear they have one but spite if their man doesn't carry the day.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: KGK73 1/19/2022 4:00:10 PM (No. 1044254)
I'm not a Trump hater (I donated several hundred to his campaign in 2020), but Trump is unelectable. His polling numbers are horrific in the burbs. He would lose against a senile, corrupt Biden even in 2024. Donald Trump’s problem isn't the policies he supports, but Donald Trump. His image has improved, but only because he's muted across social media. It's easy to Trump cheerlead on, but we are preaching to the choir. We like him, but not enough of us to elect him in 2024. The Demographics are a challeng for any Republican, but even more so when suburban women hate you (you know, the voters that elected a Republican Governor in Virginia 2 months ago, but supported Biden 12 months earlier). DeSantis is more formidable (more polished and smarter) than Trump.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Daisymay 1/19/2022 4:03:02 PM (No. 1044259)
Kurt has good points on Trump's ageing in Office. After watching Biden have one Foot in the Grave for Four year (if he makes it that long), I'm betting the American people will have had enough of that. I think they might just be in favor of the Younger Candidate! True, trump has the energy of a Teenager, but that could change if he has to fight his way through 8 years in the White House. I will vote for either of them, but I think if Trump decides not to run, he will back DeSantis 100%. They will work that out in private! If Trump does run, I think DeSantis has enough respect for Trump not to run against him.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: formerNYer 1/19/2022 4:06:38 PM (No. 1044263)
I believe we can get as much if not more of the Trump agenda through with DeSantis. I don't give a rat's patootie what the media will say or do, they will continue to parrot the far-left agenda because the people that own them want them to say. It's time these companies are made to pay for their anti-American propaganda, by losing their licenses or breaking up the monopolies that own the conglomerates, it's called anti-trust, congress!
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Illinois Mom 1/19/2022 4:28:57 PM (No. 1044285)
The beauty of Trump is that they can't "get" to him. He doesn't care what they through at him. There is NO other person that could have withstood the terrible persecution he was faced with daily. Daily. He stood his ground, he stood up for us all. He did what he said he would do despite major obstacles and betrayal of some appointments and party members. Maybe his mistake was trusting that other high level officials actually had the best interests of the country? DeSantis is good and a great VP pick. Despite all the national coverage, he isn't really "known." Is his skin as thick as DJT's? Maybe, but what will happen when his family is attacked? His wife, his kids? He is among in the Republican "protected" class. He's not a DC guy. He needs four years of national exposure and experience. To learn at the feet of the "master." Trump came through for us and deserves our support. He's wiser after what he has experienced. We always whined about electing the "insiders" who maintain the status quo. We know that Trump did not lose to the moron in office. They are fighting like heck to get those voting changes made, for no reason other than to solidify power for themselves. They cannot win if they don't cheat.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: idahoskook 1/19/2022 4:34:02 PM (No. 1044287)
Trump should hold the prospect of running over their heads, but I don’t think he should run. I think he should be the power broker and megaphone that supports the candidate we chose to represent MAGA in 2024. DeSantis has been my choice for months now. He has what it takes to stand on his own and has shown he isn’t afraid to act and FIGHT. - DeSantis 2024!
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Reply 12 - Posted by: TLCary 1/19/2022 4:34:08 PM (No. 1044289)
Trump supporter declares that Trump is unelectable. No polling agrees with this “supporter” but we should agree with them and give the Leftists exactly what they want. How about NO! Why Trump? This is how we say NO! This is how we stop this instead of turning our choice over to people who hate us and this country.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Kate318 1/19/2022 4:41:33 PM (No. 1044296)
Your constant negative drumbeat is a real downer, #7. Seriously. And, your childish insults make your points seem petty.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 1/19/2022 4:51:46 PM (No. 1044303)
What was the source reporting Trump’s alleged dig at DeSantis? Do we know any MFM who would love to stir the pot?
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Laotzu 1/19/2022 4:52:16 PM (No. 1044304)
Any Republican could win by: 1) telling the unvarnished truth that American's haven't heard from anyone since Trump ran, 2) laughing at Democrats and 3) goes to war for conservative, constitutional policies. Any Republican will be immediately treated like Hitler by the Democrats. Anyone who thinks there is an "acceptable" Republican that will not get slandered and libeled by the MSM is delusional. The candidate needs to mock them mercillously for their overreach.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Catherine 1/19/2022 5:14:22 PM (No. 1044321)
We have Washington full of polished politicians. See where they've brought us? I'll take abrasive, somewhat foul mouthed Trump any day. If he can stand the heat from the media, so can I. DiSantis is the man to follow him, tho.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: KGK73 1/19/2022 5:35:33 PM (No. 1044336)
Yeah. I was an early supporter of Trump (back in 2015) and donated several hundred to him 6 years ago as well. I really don't care what polls you see (almost 3 years out). Trump isn't electable. His turnout is countered by those that hate him and show up to vote just because Trump is on the ticket Why not nominate someone like DeSantis that is far more likeable, polished, way smarter, and isn't intentionally offensive? It's already nearly impossible for a Republican to win nationally. Why make it even easier? Trump will lose in 2024 (against any Dem nominee) if he is the nominee.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: judy 1/19/2022 5:51:36 PM (No. 1044347)
Townhall.. another so called media outlet trying to divide the Republican party..don't forget Trump convinced DeSantis to run for Governor of Florida....
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Reply 19 - Posted by: bpl40 1/19/2022 5:53:01 PM (No. 1044350)
The biggest obstacle in placing a Republican in the White House in '24 will vote fraud and election theft. The one and ONLY realistic weapon against that is Donald Trump. Capable as he is DeSantis cannot do it. If you deny that you are walking away from reality. The ideal solution is the two should bury the hatchet and form a unity ticket. PDT can create a VP+ position who will run all domestic issues except DoD, State, DoJ and Treasury.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: judy 1/19/2022 5:54:55 PM (No. 1044353)
These so called ...I voted forTrump, but he's unelectable makes me ill....join the Biden party...
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Reply 21 - Posted by: TexaTucky 1/19/2022 5:59:20 PM (No. 1044359)
Stop worrying about it. If the corrupt pedo-plagiarist loser of two previous presidential runs who campaigned from his basement and couldn't draw a crowd large enough to wash my car "won" a race against the most successful president in history who regularly commanded crowds of multi-thousands wherever he appeared, the machines and/or the algorithms have been perfected. I'd gladly vote for either DeSantis or Trump, but neither will become president in 2024. DeSantis is probably realistic enough to discern this and will not run.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: oldmagnolia 1/19/2022 6:01:56 PM (No. 1044360)
Are we going to go for three more years with the Trump De Santis quarrels? There aren't any.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: dickiedeeb 1/19/2022 6:02:00 PM (No. 1044361)
Desantis will be the first president of the new Republic of Texas and while im dreaming run MTG in 2024 to use the visibility to denounce the absolute illegitimacy of federal elections to emphasize participating in a corrupt system is complicity in it and agitate for secession Thats my wish in one hand But what we will get as always is the other hand
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Reply 24 - Posted by: BarryNo 1/19/2022 6:05:51 PM (No. 1044362)
Dem candidate will almost certainly be Shrillary. Trump or DeSantis need to avoid anyone with Washington entanglements, and hire someone that is trustworthy to look over the FBI's shoulders when they are doing background checks on appointees. People not already hip-deep in the Swamp will be tempted and threatened with every means the Swamp can bring to bear. Then we need to fire everyone who has worked in the Swamp for more than five years, and eliminate the FBI. CIA. ATF, and DOE. Those people can go work for MI or police department at State or below. If you want something like the FBI, then have departsments send people to act as interstate liasons.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: DVC 1/19/2022 6:23:28 PM (No. 1044381)
Trump should NOT come out big supporting these damned Clot Shots. THAT is a VERY, VERY stupid idea. The shots are worthless, and have killed many tens of thousands. DO NOT hook your wagon to that millstone, President Trump. That would be a severe loser of a move.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Mofongo 1/19/2022 7:07:08 PM (No. 1044418)
Trump knocked it out of the ballpark at his rally. His return to sanity on the vaccine issue has cinched my support. And DeSantis’ negligence in the Mayo Clinic Ivermectin dereliction seconded the motion.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Rightfromthestart 1/19/2022 7:07:31 PM (No. 1044420)
Trump and DeSantis cannot tun on the same ticket if both remain Florida residents, Trump would have to move.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: cireskul 1/19/2022 7:24:02 PM (No. 1044428)
President Trump or nothing. MAGA or death. We clear?
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Reply 29 - Posted by: MDConservative 1/19/2022 7:25:05 PM (No. 1044429)
#14 - Okay. It's called a reality check. Lots of people don't like reality; really hate any view that doesn't comply with their own. Exactly what point in my post would you like to discuss?
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Reply 30 - Posted by: SALady 1/19/2022 8:06:36 PM (No. 1044459)
If Trump decides to run, he has my vote. Period. Of course, I truly hope for a Trump/DeSantis ticket in 2024!!! If Trump decides not to run, DeSantis has my vote. But if DeSantis decides to run against Trump, he will be committing political suicide. But, honestly, I believe DeSantis and Trump are huge allies, and all this talk of "division" is BS lie-beral attempts to cause derision and unfounded concern among the Republicans.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: J. Arthur Brown 1/19/2022 8:12:51 PM (No. 1044467)
It was only a matter of time before Schlichter, who not long ago urged us to find satisfaction in Mitch McConnell, would attempt to stir something up between the two leading non-McConnell Republicans.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: PrayerWarrior 1/19/2022 9:06:59 PM (No. 1044526)
Stop it Kurt. Don't start the in-fighting, not helpful. If anyone saw the Trump Rally in AZ last Saturday night, they know Trump has the charisma and fight to win 2024. Don't know if DeSantis wants to do that. So lay off Trump.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: red1066 1/19/2022 9:14:03 PM (No. 1044535)
I don't really care who the Republican candidate is in 2024. That person has my vote.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: lil dotty 1/19/2022 10:54:01 PM (No. 1044617)
This Texas voter voted for Trump 's first term and praised the Lord his name was on the ballot. Voted for him the second time as well knowing with heart and soul he would win. We did win, Biden lost (no surprise to anyone!) Should DJT run again, he most certainly would get this vote once again. I'll not desert him because of his sandpaper persona. That is his armor. and it serves him well. Should he decline and give his support to Ron D. there would be no hesitation in voting for the now Florida Governor. President Trump - your choice, sir. Thank you for stepping up to the plate when the dark clouds surrounded us. Thank You for all attempts in bringing the criminals into the light in order we might see justice at last served.
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Posted by Magnante 3/3/2022 4:50:09 AM Post Reply
The Laws of Economics are as immutable as the Law of Gravity, but few leftists grasp this fact. When it comes to the Democrats’ energy policies, I believe this immutability will finally be the Democrats’ downfall. People are reaching a pain point that the progressives can no longer deflect onto others. (snip) For the right cause, say a short-term need to defend the US against an aggressor to protect us, citizens do make sacrifices, as we saw in World War II with rationing. But sane Americans won’t do it for progressive, leftist, or Marxist authoritarian causes.
White House Deploys Jill Biden to Reboot
Joe Biden’s Image
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Posted by Hazymac 3/4/2022 7:59:05 AM Post Reply
First Lady Jill Biden joined President Joe Biden on Wednesday for a trip out of Washington, DC, taking the stage for an unusually defensive speech about her husband. The First Lady began her speech recalling Inauguration Day when she watched Joe Biden take the oath of office just a year ago. “In that moment, he was the man I fell in love with so many years ago,” she recalled, joining her husband to address a small crowd in Superior, Wisconsin. The president reacted visibly with surprise to her comment, prompting the crowd to burst into laughter, interrupting the first lady’s speech. “I guess I don’t tell him enough,” she replied after Biden
'My d*** is bigger than yours, I have
the biggest d*** in Chicago': Mayor Lori
Lightfoot insulted lawyer who tried to
defy her wishes by allowing Italian-Americans
to display a statue of Christopher Columbus,
lawsuit claims
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Posted by Ribicon 3/3/2022 12:05:50 PM Post Reply
Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot has been accused in a lawsuit of hurling obscenities at a city lawyer who tried to defy her wishes by allowing Italian-Americans to display a removed statue of Christopher Columbus at a parade. Former Chicago Park District deputy general counsel George Smyrniotis filed the lawsuit on Tuesday against the city and Lightfoot, alleging she defamed him with her remarks in a meeting last year. 'You make some kind of secret agreement with Italians,' said Lightfoot, according to the complaint, which was first reported by the Chicago Tribune. 'My d**k is bigger than yours and the Italians, I have the biggest d**k in Chicago.'
The Biden Inflation Octopus 24 replies
Posted by earlybird 3/3/2022 9:45:43 PM Post Reply
The Democrats will suffer historic losses in the November midterms. This disaster for their party will come about not just because of the Afghanistan debacle, an appeased Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, the destruction of the southern border, the supply chain mess, or their support for critical race theory demagoguery. The culprit for the political wipeout will be out-of-control inflation—and for several reasons. First, the Biden Administration is in such denial of inflation that it sounds to Americans simply callous and indifferent to the misery it has unleashed. Biden officials have scoffed at price spikes as “transitory.” Or they have preposterously claimed spiraling costs are a .
White House discussing sending Harris
to Warsaw, Bucharest
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Posted by Imright 3/3/2022 6:13:41 PM Post Reply
The White House is actively discussing sending Vice President Harris to Warsaw, Poland, and Bucharest, Romania, in the coming days to show solidarity with Ukraine as it faces an escalating Russian invasion, sources familiar with the conversations tell The Hill. The discussions involve sending Harris to visit troops stationed in Romania and potentially to the border with Ukraine, where a refugee crisis has seen more than 1 million people flee that country since the Russian attack.The trip could happen in the coming weeks, one source said, adding that there is no active dialogue about sending President Biden to the region.
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