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Prop masters union claims Alec Baldwin
fired LIVE round and not a blank at female
cinematographer on set of his new Western
movie Rust: Actor 'asked "why was I handed
a hot gun" after accidentally killing
her and wounding the film's director

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Posted By: earlybird, 10/22/2021 11:09:51 AM

A movie prop masters union has told members it was a live round and not a blank that Alec Baldwin fired at a female cinematographer on Thursday in New Mexico, killing her and wounding the movie's director in a tragic on-set accident. Halyna Hutchins, 42, died shortly after being shot by Baldwin around 1.50pm Thursday at Bonanza Creek Ranch, near the city of Santa Fe in New Mexico, where they were filming the movie Rust. Joel Souza, 48, the film's director, was also hurt and spent several hours in hospital, but was released later the same evening. Police have disclosed few details about the shooting, saying only that


*Chris Pleasance, Laurence Dollimore, Ruth Styles, Keith Griffith

So much for anti-Second Amendment Alec. “A projectile was fired”…. Doesn’t know enough to check any gun to be sure it is not loaded, etc., etc. And why was he pointing it at the cinematographer? You don’t point at anything you don’t want to kill. (Hear that, Lt. Michael Leroy Byrd, Capitol Police?)

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby 10/22/2021 11:11:52 AM (No. 954020)
And why did he point a gun, blank or not, at any person.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: davew 10/22/2021 11:21:41 AM (No. 954031)
I can't believe that movie sets using firearms ever allow live ammunition on any set with real actors present. This would be insanity. The crews may be getting sloppy but are not that stupid. If there was live ammunition on the set it was because someone broke the rules intentionally.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: coldoc 10/22/2021 11:23:56 AM (No. 954035)
Sounds like somebody wasn't an alex b fan. "Here, use this gun".
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Reply 4 - Posted by: DVC 10/22/2021 11:36:07 AM (No. 954049)
My comment on a previous article said that this seemed unlikely to be a blank, more likely a live round. Now...how in hell did a live round get on set, and into a gun?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Axeman 10/22/2021 11:43:56 AM (No. 954054)
Simple explanation is that it wasn't a "prop" gun, rather, someone's personal protection firearm. That would explain the information blackout too.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Kumoan 10/22/2021 11:44:38 AM (No. 954055)
Alec Baldwin: Demorat, load mouth, entitled, lady killer... Alec Baldwin has killed more people than my entire gun collection.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: SweetPea3 10/22/2021 11:45:45 AM (No. 954056)
Typical libterd, blame someone else. No, killer, the question is, why would you aim a gun and pull the trigger at anyone, let alone without checking it?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: janjan 10/22/2021 11:51:37 AM (No. 954063)
Bottom line this fool pointed a gun at a worker on the set and pulled the trigger. He should be prosecuted.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Namma 10/22/2021 11:53:21 AM (No. 954065)
Someone else’s fault. Baldwin was handed the gun. But Baldwin. YOU PULLED THE TRIGGER. Baldwin will skate. The bad guy who handed Baldwin the gun is in deep doo do
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Aud 10/22/2021 11:55:40 AM (No. 954068)
I’d say we have seen the last of Baldwin on Saturday Night Live.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: woodenleg 10/22/2021 11:57:40 AM (No. 954070)
First rule of gun safety....All guns are loaded. Second rule.....never point a gun at anyone else you intend to shoot them.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: cor-vet 10/22/2021 12:03:13 PM (No. 954075)
You never ever point a gun at someone unless they're a threat. You ALWAYS personally check the gun to make sure it's unloaded and safe. Baldwin, being an anti-gun, anti 2nd amendment 'expert', who can tell the gun owners of the America how foolish we are to have or want guns, needs to be prosecuted. But because he's a darling of the left for his lame portrails of President Trump, he'll get a light slap on the wrist.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: MrDeplorable 10/22/2021 12:04:58 PM (No. 954077)
Correction: Baldwin did not ACCIDENTALLY kill Halyna Hutchins but NEGLIGENTLY. There can be no quesiton that he did not intend her death or even intend to shoot a live round, but the pointing of the weapon at her was INTENTIONAL and therefore NEGLIGENT. There might be a good case for manslaughter here, and the woman's family will have a certain wrongful death action against the star.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Rumblehog 10/22/2021 12:13:50 PM (No. 954084)
Has he been arrested yet? He's definitely a "person of interest" in a possible homicide. Very strange that he specifically shoots the Cinematographer and Director... why not a mere Gaffer, or Best Boy?
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Birddog 10/22/2021 12:14:58 PM (No. 954085)
A) It was/is a western movie, circa 1880's, all guns would be single action pistols, a lever rifle, or a dbl barrel hammer shotgun. B) they were filming inside a church, cameras and such were outside filming through windows, as well as inside C) IF it were part of a scene? It is ALL on film. D) might be malicious rumor but...supposedly 'someone on the crew' has reported that they had asked him to do another Take of a scene, to which he responded, "Another TAKE?, I oughta just F'n shoot both of you...pointed the gun at them, then pulled the trigger"
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Birddog 10/22/2021 12:25:27 PM (No. 954101)
for those who are not gun savvy...that means he had to pull the hammer back on any of those weapons before they would fire, not just pull the trigger.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Birddog 10/22/2021 12:27:02 PM (No. 954107)
I tried to use the 4 letter term for manipulating the cocking mechanism...and the auto censor sez "That word is not allowed"
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Luandir 10/22/2021 12:27:29 PM (No. 954108)
Whatever the details of the shooting turn out to be, I am appalled by Baldwin's self-centered statement. It is all about HIS feelings, and evidences not a hint of responsibility for having pulled the trigger.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Starlifter Nav 10/22/2021 12:28:44 PM (No. 954113)
As a period piece, western type film a person's 'personal protection firearm' would stand out visually like a sore thumb. Sort of like a 1998 Corvette in a movie set in 1920s Chicago. More importantly, a live round is completely different looking than a blank. There shouldn't be a single live round on a movie set, EVER. Someone - likely more than one person - is in BIG trouble.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 10/22/2021 12:29:48 PM (No. 954116)
They're working with guns. Didn't they stop, and check it? People make mistakes. Even if someone else checked the gun, I would still check it personally. A room full of people can all make the same mistake. It happens. This sounds like everybody flunked gun safety. The props people. Baldwin. Even the people that were shot. Dumb question time...how easy is it to spot live rounds versus blanks?
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Mizz Fixxit 10/22/2021 12:37:29 PM (No. 954125)
Sounds like Baldwin violated fundamental gun safety rules. Also, the armorer was apparently negligent. You’d think movie set armorers would be required to undergo extensive training and on-set job shadowing with a certified, experienced armorer before being hired by a production company.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: sanspeur 10/22/2021 12:38:53 PM (No. 954126)
#21 , the blank has a brass casing like a real one ..but no front protuding load ..the propellant is in the brass behind the plastic , flat “dummy”
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Reply 23 - Posted by: jinx 10/22/2021 12:43:36 PM (No. 954131)
Maybe next time a police officer accidentally kills someone in the line of duty, Baldwin will step up to defend him instead of calling "they" a murderer.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Laotzu 10/22/2021 12:48:35 PM (No. 954142)
Who would have guessed Alec Baldwin is a good shot?
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Reply 25 - Posted by: udanja99 10/22/2021 12:56:42 PM (No. 954150)
“ But it remains unclear how a blank could have killed Hutchins…” I wonder how close Baldwin was to Hutchins. Some of you may remember that actor Heath Ledger killed himself with a prop gun which was loaded with a blank. He was joking around on the set, picked up the gun, pointed at his own head and pulled the trigger. The force of the blast killed him. If Baldwin was really close to her, the same thing may have happened.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: DVC 10/22/2021 1:00:23 PM (No. 954152)
A live pistol cartridge looks very different from a blank pistol cartridge. Easily visually distinguished. Here's the comparison of a handgun blank vs a .45 Colt live cartridge, the most common caliber in "old west" handguns in movies. https://image.sportsmansguide.com/adimgs/l/1/100142i_ts.jpg https://image.sportsmansguide.com/adimgs/l/1/13969i_ts.jpg However, a blank shotgun shell looks essentially identical to a live shotgun shell. This would be a more easily understood human error if the gun in question turns out to be a shotgun.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: bad-hair 10/22/2021 1:01:51 PM (No. 954156)
Even my grandchildren know not to play with guns. Baldwin and his confreres do it for a dam good living.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: ussjimmycarter 10/22/2021 1:05:26 PM (No. 954161)
If you show me that your gun is not loaded and hand it to me, I will assume it is loaded until I check it! NEVER point a gun at anything you aren’t willing to destroy! Idiots!
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Reply 29 - Posted by: bigfatslob 10/22/2021 1:06:52 PM (No. 954162)
Somebody has to be blamed, according to Alec the Idiot it's the NRA's fault. Realizing it's a western it was possible they were using period correct firearms like single action pistols and lever action Winchester types. Very different from modern autoloaders or modern firearms. It takes a whole different skill to master them. I don't believe that was a blank to enter one person killing them and injuring another no blank could do that. I especially enjoyed the interview with the whiz bang other actor, "like she told me to pick a gun" like now pull the hammer back (that's a single action) and like pull the trigger, "like it was weird" like wow how stupid is this nerd. Sounds like Kamala Harris speaking. Now that Baldwin has a body count maybe PTSD you better not take his parking spot in New York or he'll blow you away and raise the notches on his six-shooter along with his body count. My sympathy meter for Alec Baldwin won't move but I feel sorry for the victim though.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: heartsurgeon 10/22/2021 1:10:31 PM (No. 954167)
At a minimum we appear to have involuntary manslaughter. Did he point the gun at these people? Did he voluntarily pull the trigger? Things could escalate from there... Possibly he was just examining the "prop" and it accidentally discharged. That's the least culpable scenario. Tragic for everyone involved and their families Very sad.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Starlifter Nav 10/22/2021 1:12:33 PM (No. 954169)
@#29 Precisely! You open the action, visually inspect the chamber and closing the action, hand it to me. I immediately do exactly the same things you just did. It still is never pointed at anything or anyone that is not a target intended to be destroyed.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: happywarrior 10/22/2021 1:25:46 PM (No. 954184)
If this happened during filming a scene why was the director and director of photography shot? Why not the other actor(s)?? Considering Baldwin is a huge Trump hater they will probably never release the full details just to protect him.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: cor-vet 10/22/2021 1:34:26 PM (No. 954195)
Sorry for the 2nd post, and not having seen what a movies blank round looks like, but a wad-cutter or semi wad-cutter round could look like a blank. Still no excuse. I say, hang em, Dano!
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Reply 34 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 10/22/2021 1:36:49 PM (No. 954197)
I have the same question - why would anyone hand a loaded gun to an idiot like Alec Baldwin? Even if loaded with blanks, he's still an idiot who can't screw in a light bulb. Why would anyone with brains trust him with anything but a squirt gun? With special effects these days, why does any actor have to shoot a real gun? Just give him a dummy gun, and dub in the sound.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Birddog 10/22/2021 1:49:21 PM (No. 954208)
RE: Movie sets, Gun safety I have been on 5 movie sets, and LOTS of protections and protocols were in place, even on "The Crow" where Brandon Lee was killed, I had a friend working on that set, it was verrry complicated because there were a LOT of actors, stunt folks, dozens of people all running around, in/out, all shooting at the same time, my friend can be seen in the re-cut/re-shot/released version getting "killed" several times, wearing very slightly different clothes. It's frik'n hilarious to watch it with him on video with the pause button.."Look here I am, bang I'm dead, then..here I come in from the left, bang I'm dead, now coming in the window, bang I'm dead...now from the left again, bang I'm dead...here I am on the right, bang I'm dead..all within about a minute" That said... On the John Wick films, each one setting a new "Body Count" record, actor Keanu Reeves has become a REAL gun expert, very accomplished shooter, trains constantly...and ALWAYS exhibits gun safety protocols on screen, muzzle control, trigger finger control, checks the chamber every time he handles a weapon, and every time he reloads.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: BevNJ 10/22/2021 1:52:20 PM (No. 954211)
#32, my instructor taught me never to take a gun from someone else and never to hand a gun to someone else unless the action was open. And in orientation, the president of my range emphasized, as a prior poster noted, that there are no accidents, only negligence. A lot of negligence here. If only he were an NRA member, he’d have known all that.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: CJohnson 10/22/2021 1:54:59 PM (No. 954214)
Drug test him.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: Roscoelewis 10/22/2021 1:56:24 PM (No. 954215)
What is he doing pointing a gun and pulling the trigger at anybody? Criminal negligence.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: Starboard_side 10/22/2021 1:57:12 PM (No. 954217)
I don't believe this is the first time Alec Baldwin has handled a gun on a movie set, so he knows better. As I stated on a previous thread, and #14 mentions, he should be charged with manslaughter, at a minimum, and assault with a deadly weapon (against the director). He surely will face a lawsuit for wrongful death. Now, he gets to ponder the question he posted years ago about what it must feel like to accidentally kill someone.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: smokincol 10/22/2021 1:58:45 PM (No. 954219)
with one round he kills one and wounds one. my oh my, alec is a true sharpshooter. there is a lot more to this that will never be revealed and the shame of it is that baldwin will skate because he's a loyal demcommie
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Reply 41 - Posted by: red1066 10/22/2021 2:34:47 PM (No. 954261)
Blanks can do damage at close range. You can bet Baldwin was blaming someone else the second the gun went off. The first thing he does is ask why someone gave him a loaded gun. Why was he pointing a gun at someone with his finger on the trigger when they weren't even shooting a scene? He was talking to the director and the person responsible for shooting the movie. They were probably within a few feet of each other.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: Penney 10/22/2021 2:35:59 PM (No. 954265)
This tragedy sounds like an old movie script turned into reality. They should be able to trace how the live bullet made its way into the prop weapon.
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Reply 43 - Posted by: caddyjak 10/22/2021 2:36:47 PM (No. 954266)
The Crime School that is Hollywood claims another victim. So what? They have taught the world's children murder and mayhem for over 100 years. Every 10 year old in the U.S. has witnessed over 5,000 homicides , etc. thanks to the poisonous movies. The real thing will not generate a single emotion.
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Reply 44 - Posted by: MDConservative 10/22/2021 3:05:05 PM (No. 954290)
It wasn't Baldwin's fault. It was the gun's fault!
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Reply 45 - Posted by: bassman 10/22/2021 3:07:34 PM (No. 954291)
He fires one shot and injures or kills his first victim. Maybe an accident. Then he shoots again?? Murder!!
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Reply 46 - Posted by: JackBurton 10/22/2021 3:10:28 PM (No. 954295)
The above posters get it. Treat every gun as loaded. Don't put your finger on the trigger. Even then, don't point it at anyone.... etc. Here's what I'd add.... Since guns are dangerous, get trained if YOU WILL PICK ONE UP. If you are untrainable, don't pick one up. If you pick one up and haven't had training, you're an idiot and should never be allowed near one.
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Reply 47 - Posted by: caljeepgirl 10/22/2021 3:29:23 PM (No. 954314)
Exactly, #3! Bingo! Suspect Baldwin has acquired a lot of enemies in his storied lifetime.....one finally caught up with him and set him up? Nah.....couldn't be......
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Reply 48 - Posted by: PrayerWarrior 10/22/2021 3:36:21 PM (No. 954322)
The big question is WHY was Baldwin pointing a gun at a woman cinematographer?
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Reply 49 - Posted by: anniebc 10/22/2021 3:46:32 PM (No. 954328)
Why were they using a real gun in the first place? Somethings smells here.
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Reply 50 - Posted by: Trump'sCousin 10/22/2021 3:53:23 PM (No. 954336)
Absolutely ZERO sympathy here for any of them.
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Reply 51 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 10/22/2021 3:55:19 PM (No. 954338)
Dim witted Baldwin, never has had firearm training in his live. Never, never aim a firearm at anything unless you intend to fire the weapon. We'll eventually find out who loaded the weapon.
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Reply 52 - Posted by: Hard Nard 10/22/2021 4:11:18 PM (No. 954347)
Okay, I'm just going to throw out a "tin foil hat" theory here - There is a photo of the crew with signs saying they support the union (IATSE I think?) which is also the union for prop masters. However, they were not using union prop masters for tis production - they were using local works for the area they were in. Ya don't suppose one of the union boys snuck in and switched ammo to teach those "scabs" a lesson?
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Reply 53 - Posted by: Vaquero45 10/22/2021 4:14:50 PM (No. 954351)
So now, unlike 99.99% of Americans who lawfully own and use firearms..... Alec Baldwin is a killer.
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Reply 54 - Posted by: Cyaindasun 10/22/2021 4:30:35 PM (No. 954358)
WTH? Did he shoot twice? One killed, one wounded? I have questions.
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Reply 55 - Posted by: qr4j 10/22/2021 4:39:30 PM (No. 954367)
Why is there live ammo on a movie set? I don't get it.
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Reply 56 - Posted by: NYbob 10/22/2021 5:11:04 PM (No. 954391)
The gun wrangler is required to have a special Federal license and is responsible for every firearm on set. When not being used in a scene, firearms are supposed to be locked and he is the only one with access. Even when used, actors are supposed to aim to the side of their target, but seems like this entire production was a mess and that Baldwin was a big part of that. He could kill one and injure another with one shot if the bullet passed through the victim. If it is true that he 'pretended' to shoot her or the director because someone asked for another take, that is the definition of negligent homicide.
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Reply 57 - Posted by: Birddog 10/22/2021 5:22:07 PM (No. 954404)
What I wanna know is...Why are the photos of solitary security guards, out standing by themselves in the open desert ALL wearing masks, but the dozen group photos of cast crew, posed and spontaneous ALL without them?? Don't they CARE about peoples Lives? Committing murder with their evil nasty Covids??
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Reply 58 - Posted by: Heil Liberals 10/22/2021 7:05:28 PM (No. 954474)
Baldwin is a known hothead. Who knows what the truth is. But I hope it all comes out. Hollywood usually shields itself.
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Reply 59 - Posted by: watashiyo 10/22/2021 7:14:43 PM (No. 954479)
Distraught and crying.... Yup, he's an actor alright.
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Reply 60 - Posted by: jfodoch 10/22/2021 8:11:51 PM (No. 954510)
Some blanks have a wadding of some kind inside the casing which could be a lethal projectile -- I've seen it in the military. Maybe the round was defective, but that's no excuse for any of this criminal negligence.
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Reply 61 - Posted by: MickTurn 10/22/2021 8:28:58 PM (No. 954529)
Sounds like this is the END of Baldy...
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Reply 62 - Posted by: padiva 10/22/2021 9:03:23 PM (No. 954550)
The gun did it. (Similar to an SUV causing an accident.)
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Reply 63 - Posted by: YorkieMom 10/22/2021 9:31:55 PM (No. 954561)
Watch all of the lefties scream about more gun control. Baldwin will probably be first, so I think he should never have been allowed to be in any movie involving weapons. Hypocrites one and all.
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Reply 64 - Posted by: VirtuDawg 10/22/2021 9:39:40 PM (No. 954564)
Maybe all these Hollyweird types should take an NRA gun safety course, instead of demonizing that organization for its commitment to safe use of guns for lawful purposes. And, by the way, when will the SNL skit about this — showing this buffoon Alec Baldwin — air???
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Reply 65 - Posted by: Geoman 10/22/2021 11:44:51 PM (No. 954624)
FTA: "It remains unconfirmed if it was a live round or a blank that was fired; a prop masters' union described it on Friday morning as a 'live round' and Baldwin was heard asking people around him why he'd been handed a 'hot gun'." Regardless of the projectile, the fact remains that Badwin knowingly placed his finger inside of the trigger guard of a handgun, pointed it toward the camera director, which indicates his actions were a gross misuse of a firearm and not a scripted part of the film, and pulled the trigger. Those three things were not accidents but were more ignorant horseplay with a firearm that resulted in death. The "trigger finger" or pointer, is the single most important "safety" on any gun and that finger should never enter the trigger guard and touch the trigger until you intend and are clear to shoot something or someone downrange. Even the kids of pacifists have grown up hearing "consider every gun loaded" enough times for it to be a part of our popular culture. Baldwin is why leftists should never be around guns, knives, or matches.
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Reply 66 - Posted by: JimBob 10/23/2021 12:22:42 AM (No. 954637)
Two thoughts, after reading the article and the comments: 1) Baldwin strikes me as extremely arrogant, precisely the type of person who believes 'the rules don't apply to me'..... including gun safety rules. 2) Hard Nard (#53) had the same thought as I did. There apparently was some ...er....disagreement with Union people leaving the set and Non-Union people coming on set to replace them. I would not....for ONE SECOND....put it past a Union thug to do a little 'sabotage'. I know this might sound a little strong..... but go back to the headline..."Prop masters union claims". In a situation like this, I would not be at all surprised if some Union type decided to either do a bit of sabotage, or on the other hand plant a 'story' that just MIGHT lead to a narrative that makes Union production mandatory..... for 'Safety'. But....this is all speculation on my part. Let's see what other information comes out over the next week or two.
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Reply 67 - Posted by: mifla 10/23/2021 4:40:20 AM (No. 954730)
He may not be proscuted by the authorities, but a good lawyer could sue him for damage caused by reckless behavior.
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Reply 68 - Posted by: Laotzu 10/23/2021 9:30:11 AM (No. 954969)
You're all missing the real story. Baldwin was the producer of this fiasco. His money was on the line. What these articles are telling you is -- all rules went out the window. Labor contracts got broken, union rules got violated, scabs got hired, and safety went out the window. Why? Because it was Baldwin's money at stake, and rules are for the little people. In other words, when push came to shove, Baldwin turned into the craven, lawless money-maker that he's always accusing everyone else of being.
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Reply 69 - Posted by: sanspeur 10/23/2021 10:24:31 AM (No. 955053)
#66 first the gun has to be cocked .. before the trigger is touched .. why was he aiming at the crew ? There is talk there was a demand for a retake and AB got ticked ..as above it is his $$$$ in this fiasco .
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Reply 70 - Posted by: kar120c 10/23/2021 11:01:54 AM (No. 955092)
When I took the training class for my CCP permit, the very first thing they taught us was what to do when you are about to touch a given firearm is to say (if it is a person handing it to you) "may I see the action". If you are picking it up yourself, you first open and then inspect the action yourself. The action is that part of the firearm that holds the cartridges (a cartridge is a shell, packed with gunpowder, capped with a bullet or a "blank"). It is a round chamber on a revolver, a magazine and slide assembly on most automatics. Once the action is opened, you can remove/inspect the cartridges from it, to see what you will actually be firing - blanks (usually cotton or cardboard at the end of the cartridge) or live rounds (metal balls, aka the "bullet", at the end of the cartridge). You always ask to see the action, opened, and inspect it yourself, before touching the firearm. Always. If there is no one to open the action, you open it. If you do not know how to open it, Do not touch it. That said, I do not know if Mr. Baldwin has such training, but regardless, I will have compassion for him - he will have to carry this around for the rest of his days.
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Reply 71 - Posted by: Speedy2 10/23/2021 2:57:44 PM (No. 955307)
Just shows that liberals should be prevented from handling firearms. The maniac should gave been in jail years ago. He is a threat to society.
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Dr. Malone has always presented himself as an intelligent and thoughtful man of even & stable disposition. This is being reported as the video {Direct Rumble Link Here} that got Dr. Robert Malone banned from Twitter. In this video Dr. Malone makes very strong statements about the “irreparable harm” to children caused by the COVID-19 vaccine. WATCH:(Video) I can see why the powers that be would respond to this video with such ferocity. What Dr. Malone states in this video is alarming in the extreme. He is specifically stating that any parent or grandparent who has permitted, facilitated or chosen to vaccinate their child, has
MN Board of Medical Practice Requesting
Files of Patients Prescribed Ivermectin: Doctor
18 replies
Posted by earlybird 12/30/2021 3:14:06 PM Post Reply
A Minnesota family physician who is being investigated for the fifth time in the past 17 months by the state medical board for statements related to COVID-19, says the board is now requesting to see medical records of his patients who were prescribed ivermectin. Dr. Scott Jensen received a notification from the Minnesota Board of Medical Practice two days before Christmas informing him of their request for the records. “And last night, when I got home after shopping with the grandchildren, I have this letter from the board of medical practice,” Jensen said in a video on Dec. 24.
Doctors Outraged After Biden Regime Shuts
Down Life-Saving Monoclonal Antibody Treatments
24 replies
Posted by earlybird 12/30/2021 1:56:30 PM Post Reply
Doctors across the country are expressing shock and outrage after the Biden regime shut off distribution of monoclonal antibodies, preventing them from treating patients infected with the Delta coronavirus with the life-saving therapeutic. In a letter addressed to Secretary of Health and Human Services Xavier Becerra Tuesday, Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo accused the Biden administration of “actively preventing the effective distribution of monoclonal antibody treatments,” undermining Florida’s strategy to handle the disease. The Biden administration paused shipments of the monoclonal antibodies because according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the treatment isn’t effective against Omicron, which they claim became the dominant strain earlier this month.
Dr. Peter McCullough: Vaccine Mandates
Should Be Repealed
7 replies
Posted by earlybird 12/30/2021 12:47:11 PM Post Reply
COVID-19 vaccine mandates “have to be repealed” as the vaccines are “still in research” and “people cannot be mandated to participate in research,” says Dr. Peter McCullough. McCullough, a cardiologist, epidemiologist, and internist who manages COVID-19 patients with heart-related complications and patients who become ill after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine, contends that COVID-19 vaccine mandates violate the Nuremberg Code. “When it comes to research, research can only be voluntary. And under no circumstances can anyone receive any pressure, coercion, or threat of reprisal—cannot. It violates the cornerstone of ethics; it’s unethical, it’s immoral to do that,” he says
Twitter Suspends Key mRNA Vaccine Contributor
Dr. Robert Malone
8 replies
Posted by earlybird 12/30/2021 12:27:31 PM Post Reply
Dr. Robert Malone, a key contributor to mRNA vaccine technology and an outspoken critic of COVID-19 mandates and rules, was suspended by Twitter. Writing on his Substack page, Malone, who had massed more than 500,000 followers, confirmed that his account was “permanently suspended from Twitter” and said, “We all knew it would happen eventually.” “Over a half million followers gone in a blink of an eye. That means I must have been on the mark, so to speak,”(Snip)According to Malone’s post, he directed users to read his Substack page for future updates. Meanwhile, he’s slated to appear on comedian and UFC commentator Joe Rogan’s podcast on Dec. 30.
CDC Estimates 58.6 Percent of US Cases
Are Omicron, Significantly Downgrades
Earlier Projection
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Posted by earlybird 12/29/2021 5:14:37 PM Post Reply
The Omicron variant of the novel coronavirus is estimated to have taken over Delta as the most prevalent strain contributing to new COVID-19 infections, accounting for 58.6 percent of all strains actively circulating in the United States as of Dec. 25, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said, as it drastically revised an earlier projection of new Omicron infections. CDC officials significantly reduced estimates for the week ending Dec. 18 that had erroneously indicated a nearly six-fold increase in Omicron’s share of infections in only one week. (snip) Federal officials cited those figures to announce that the Omicron variant had become the dominant source of new infections
Biden Administration Takes Down Post on
‘Potential Terrorist’ Apprehended
at Southern Border
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Posted by earlybird 12/29/2021 4:31:35 PM Post Reply
President Joe Biden’s administration has deleted a social media post that informed the public that a “potential terrorist” had been apprehended this month at the U.S.–Mexico border. Chris Clem, a top Border Patrol agent, posted pictures on Twitter last week showing the man who was apprehended. Clem included the man’s age (21), his country of origin (Saudi Arabia), and said the male was “linked to several Yemeni subjects of interest.” But Clem’s post was taken down recently, Customs and Border Protection (CBP), which includes Border Patrol, confirmed to The Epoch Times on Dec. 29.
Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
Reinstates COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate
6 replies
Posted by earlybird 12/29/2021 4:09:29 PM Post Reply
The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), in a policy reversal, announced on Dec. 28 that it would start enforcing its COVID-19 vaccine mandate to facilities in half the U.S. states, where the mandate hasn’t been judicially enjoined. CMS modified the compliance dates for the vaccine mandates. Facilities that receive Medicaid or Medicare funding must comply with the mandate’s first phase, meaning that all health care staff has to have received the first dose of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine, or the single-shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine by Jan. 27, 2022—or 30 days after the CMS memorandum (pdf) was issued. Those facilities will have to comply with the CMS mandate’s second
Twitter Suspends mRNA Inventor Dr. Robert Malone 12 replies
Posted by earlybird 12/29/2021 3:11:56 PM Post Reply
After months of providing valuable Covid-19 information that runs counter to the official narrative, Twitter has finally banned Dr. Robert Malone, inventor of mRNA technology.Malone, who will appear on the Joe Rogan show Thursday according to associate Ed Dowd (one of four contributors to the Malone doctrine), had more than 520,000 followers. He has been an outspoken critic of both mRNA vaccines, as well as the abysmal failures of policymakers worldwide in responding to the pandemic.(snip)He was not warned or provided an opportunity to delete any offending tweets (snip) Here's Malone's last tweet - sharing an article which claims that the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine does 'more harm than good.'
Fauci Is Just a Bureaucrat 8 replies
Posted by earlybird 12/29/2021 1:03:25 PM Post Reply
Franz Kafka’s stories are described as surreal or dreamlike. In fact the chief distinguishing characteristic is perpetual instability: The narrator in a Kafka story accepts whatever new situation he faces with unquestioning compliance.(snip) The chief bureaucrats and administrators of Kafka’s shifting and unstable worlds are usually exactly that—bureaucrats and administrators. (snip) Bureaucracy is a permanent decoupling of activity from morality. A bureaucrat isn’t paid to understand the rules he enforces or the forms he is required to have you fill out. There is no “why” involved in his life, and so he allows no common sense or flexibility to inform his actions. (snip)Anthony Fauci is a terrible man.
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Posted by Ribicon 12/30/2021 11:26:55 AM Post Reply
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Posted by Imright 12/29/2021 5:06:23 AM Post Reply
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Posted by NorthernDog 12/29/2021 1:34:58 PM Post Reply
Amy Schneider made history on the popular daytime game show “Jeopardy!” that aired on Tuesday, winning for the 20th time and tying the record for most wins by a woman. The only other woman to do so was Julia Collins, who previously set the record in 2014. (Snip) She’s previously said that she didn’t want to make her appearances on the show "too much about being trans" but she is "proud" to be a trans woman. "The fact is, I don’t actually think about being trans all that often, and so when appearing on national television, I wanted to represent
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as transphobic': UPenn swimmers wanted
to boycott final home meet over transgender
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fear backlash and jeopardizing chances
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Posted by Imright 12/29/2021 11:23:20 AM Post Reply
A group of swimmers on the University of Pennsylvania women's team were so upset over the advantages of transgender teammate Lia Thomas they considered boycotting their final home meet of the season next week, DailyMail.com has learned.'They've been ignored by both Penn and the NCAA, and there is a feeling among some of the girls that they should make some sort of statement, seize the opportunity while they have a spotlight on them to make their feelings about the issue known,' a source close to the team of 41 women told DailyMail.com.They've been discussing various possibilities for protest at the January 8 meet, wanting to express their opposition
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Posted by Come And Take It 12/29/2021 10:40:44 AM Post Reply
MSNBC anchor Nicolle Wallace said Tuesday on her show “Deadline” that she was a “groupie” of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director Dr. Anthony Fauci. Professor of Epidemiology Dr. Anne Rimoin said, “Nicolle, everybody is not necessarily going to get it. We have the tools to be able to prevent people from getting it.” Wallace said, “How? I have used all those tools. I am triple vaxed. I wear a mask everywhere except when I sit down, and I put it on before I get up, and I am going to get it. How do you not get Omicron?”
Keith Olbermann is the new ‘Scrooge’
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Posted by Ribicon 12/30/2021 9:34:16 AM Post Reply
Twitter turned on Keith Olbermann after he mocked a photo of Sen. Mitt Romney’s large extended family and suggested the clan use birth control. The sports correspondent-turned-liberal political commentator posted a screenshot of Romney’s Christmas greeting Wednesday with the caption: “Somebody gift these people some vasectomies.” The Mormon Republican senator from Utah and his wife, Anne, have five sons and dozens of grandchildren. His Christmas post featured the photo, a Bible verse and the greeting, “From my family to yours, Merry Christmas!”(Snip)“Keith Olbermann has no children. Just an empty penthouse near Central Park where he yells at people about vaccines all day like the Scrooge.
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Posted by MAGA Might 12/29/2021 11:04:04 AM Post Reply
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Posted by NorthernDog 12/30/2021 11:03:15 AM Post Reply
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Posted by IowaDad 12/29/2021 5:51:37 PM Post Reply
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Anderson Cooper floats withholding Social
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Posted by Imright 12/29/2021 8:34:47 AM Post Reply
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The Constitution isn't working 30 replies
Posted by minuteman 12/29/2021 8:03:44 AM Post Reply
The U.S. Constitution is the sacred text of American government and civic life. But it’s time to face facts: The document, written in 1787, isn’t working. The signs are all around us. Just 38 percent of Americans in a recent Gallup poll expressed either a “great deal” or “quite a lot” of confidence in the presidency, down from 48 percent in 2001. Congress, never high in the public’s estimation to begin with, fell from 26 percent to a mere 12 percent. The Supreme Court has also taken a hit, down from 50 percent to 36 percent during the same period.
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