The California Version of The Green New
Deal and an October 16, 2020, EPA Settlement
With Transportation is What’s Creating
The Container Shipping Backlog – Working
CA Ports 24/7 Will Not Help, Here’s Why
Conservative Treehouse,
by
Sundance
Original Article
Posted By: Judy W.,
10/15/2021 3:16:36 AM
Hundreds of requests for details on the specifics of the container shipping backlog. So, I spent 3 days calling sources, digging for details and gathering information on the substantive issue at hand. (Snip) This has nothing to do with COVID-19.
The issues being discussed today relate to events that happened a long time ago. As a matter of fact, it was so predictable that Amazon, Walmart, UPS, FedEx, Samsung, The Home Depot and Target all had taken actions years ago -long before COVID- because they knew this day would come.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Annie Xango 10/15/2021 3:30:06 AM (No. 946031)
Sundance...hits a home run AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
EJKrausJr 10/15/2021 4:43:35 AM (No. 946045)
The Green New Deal has cancelled Christmas. Great headline. Way to go AOC.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
singermom9 10/15/2021 4:56:43 AM (No. 946052)
"The Green New Deal has cancelled Christmas. Great headline. Way to go AOC." You think AOC will be bothered by this? Of course not. The elites are always exempt from the rules they make for others. That is why they are fighting so hard. Why America turns into the One World Government she hopes to have a high position in its realm. The rest of us will be eating out of trashcans. Ask Venezuela.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
singermom9 10/15/2021 4:57:28 AM (No. 946053)
Oops. "Why = When"
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Flyball Dogs 10/15/2021 5:02:29 AM (No. 946060)
Agree #3. Also, what are the chances California would ease their shtooopid regulations for a few months.
(None)
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
sw penn 10/15/2021 5:20:34 AM (No. 946075)
Wishful Thinking, Meet Reality...
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
DCGIRL 10/15/2021 5:31:29 AM (No. 946082)
All I can say is that Butt Boy better find a way to fix this. The more it goes on and store shelves are empty, this administration and the dementia guy are toast. Their approval is now in the trash and it's very close to the gutter.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
sw penn 10/15/2021 5:46:22 AM (No. 946091)
Does CA actually make any of these magical clean trucks?
It would be one thing if elites had the resources they would like
before they mandate such things,
but to just wave your hand and say, "You must have magical clean trucks!",
is just insane.
Everything about the whole New Green Deal
is becoming an expensive problem,
with no apparent general benefit.
And the harder they push, the less accepting I become, and the more aggressively anti-Green.
No, I don't wish to be made a Third-Worlder, so you can pretend your feet don't touch the ground.
I don't think I'm alone.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Rinktum 10/15/2021 6:09:59 AM (No. 946099)
#2, that meme should go viral! Think anyone in the media will ask Jenny from the blockhead about this?
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Otis Gill 10/15/2021 7:13:50 AM (No. 946135)
The deep state thrives on chaos. It's intentional to weaken America. Everything they do is intended to diminish America's strength and soveigrnty, including choosing FJB and Kamala as their marionettes.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
LLAMA 10/15/2021 7:20:14 AM (No. 946141)
This is only the tip of the iceberg of a cascade of disastrous effects of the so called "Green New Deal."
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
skacmar 10/15/2021 7:42:41 AM (No. 946163)
This port crisis, like every other current crisis, all boils down to government policy changes creating rather than fixing problems. Even if they got rid of the rule about only newer trucks, you run into union driver issues and drive time rules for drivers. You can always count on government to screw something up by "fixing " it.
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Must read.
This makes more sense than anything I have heard yet. The only real alternatives are ports outside the state of California (expensive) or a massive expansion of rail transport to supplant the trucks that CA will not longer allow. I doubt that is even possible short term.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
RuckusTom 10/15/2021 7:57:27 AM (No. 946176)
I'm still a little hazy on the time line.
"The issues being discussed today relate to events that happened a long time ago." "... the issue started becoming visible several years ago when the California Air Resource Board (CARB) announced the new environmental regulations." "A long time before and during the era of the Trump administration, those massive multinational corporations knew they would need to redirect their import cargo ..."
What is a "long time ago" and "several years ago" and "a long time before"?
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
planetgeo 10/15/2021 8:18:51 AM (No. 946191)
California = Magical thinking + Soviet central planning + Sheer stupidity
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
czechlist 10/15/2021 8:23:36 AM (No. 946197)
Doesn't the interstate commerce act apply if a container is bound for another State? The Dept of Transportation and EPA have over ruled State laws in the past over interstate commerce concerns. But, it is Kalifornika and the dims do run the admin - so Americans be damned
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Strike3 10/15/2021 8:34:55 AM (No. 946208)
Joe is dysfunctional and clueless, Butt Judge is nothing but a pawn in this game and California continues to be stupid. The world has been building cars and motorcycles with special emissions equipment for these green weenies since the 1980's. I have a 15-year-old lawn mower in my garage with a sticker that says, "Not to be sold in California." If they are so enviro-conscious, why are they the one state with a shortage of water, massive forest fires every year and brownouts when people turn on their air conditioners. It's long past time that south Cal sinks into the ocean and we build the ports in Arizona and Nevada, or build a national canal across the state from Los Angeles. I would even consider a deal with Mexico to build ports south of San Diego with trucking routed through Arizona, A real president could fix this problem overnight but Joe is not a fixer, he's a deliberate destroyer.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
NorthernDog 10/15/2021 8:41:03 AM (No. 946213)
In the long run the backlog at the ports will not go away. It may even get worse. As usual the Biden administration opts for immediate political butt covering over fixing a problem.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
NamVet70 10/15/2021 8:50:12 AM (No. 946227)
So the Biden regime claims the Federal government can assert vaccination mandates contrary to the laws of Texas, but the environmental regulators of California can overrule the Federal laws on truck emissions and block the growth of the economy by bottlenecking trade through California ports. It sounds like the socialist green leftists always win and the country loses.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
mindsport 10/15/2021 9:06:40 AM (No. 946240)
Very interesting! As a casual observer I have noticed in the last couple of years that a massive amount of warehouse space has been built, and is coming online in Pierce County county Washington near the port of Tacoma and Joint base Lewis McCord. This includes a complete rebuild of truck friendly freeway on and off ramps, large Geodis warehouses, 2 massive Amazon warehouses (in an area already a top consumer of Amazon goods), and literally dozens more. Obviously a major investment by many. Until now I could never understand what was driving the expectations of filling all this space with goods, now I get it.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
dave wright 10/15/2021 9:18:47 AM (No. 946251)
And China collects massively greater fees as shipping is forced through the Panama Canal which they control and manage at both ends. Sounds like another losing deal for gullible Americans.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 10/15/2021 9:22:50 AM (No. 946260)
Great update from Sundance. And for getting to the truth behind the supply chain disruptions and why the cost of goods has increased so rapidly. Biden the cheater sure made an idiot out of himself with this and once again trying to hide the truth. It wouldn't take a resourceful jihadist long to wreak havoc at the Panama Canal and bring shipping to North America to a complete standstill, would it?
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
privateer 10/15/2021 9:37:46 AM (No. 946270)
The Greench who stole Christmas! Maybe CA should build bullet trains from those ports to some SANE state, where they can be loaded on ordinary trucks. Think of the bribes and rake offs!
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
red1066 10/15/2021 9:44:11 AM (No. 946278)
Another issue is that U.S. corporations have shipped so many jobs out of this country, that a situation such as we see in California was allowed to develop. Store shelves in grocery stores for some products are basically empty most of the time, and some products appear for a day, then their gone. Are our food stuffs coming from overseas as well? I can understand companies such as Amazon, Walmart, and even Home Depot getting some if not most of their products from overseas, but not our most of our food. Visit any Walmart, and try to find a product that ISN'T made in China. Visit most grocery stores, and try finding products such as a Jimmy Dean breakfast sandwich, or even paper towels. These products aren't produced over seas. That the EPA is involved in this does not surprised me. This communist government entity has been screwing over American businesses and citizens for decades. Much like most school systems in this country, it answers to no one. It creates laws that have not gone through the legislation and voted on by our representatives.
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Thinking of buying several mule teams and wagons to help out. Environmentally friendly but the PETA protests would make it unfeasible.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Heil Liberals 10/15/2021 10:03:30 AM (No. 946302)
Has the time come to rescind California’s statehood and turn it into a territory again?
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 10/15/2021 10:08:56 AM (No. 946308)
The slogan for the Green New Deal should be 'Wreck the nation, save the world" because that is what its doing. Btw, is this limited to just two California ports because I can see it happening in other liberal states and cities. Seattle, Washington for example? DeSantis of Florida just made an offer to freighter companies that they can get unloaded in Florida so it clear that not all ports have this problem.
Also this does not explain shortages of products made in America. Livestock specifically. How many farms had to slaughter their hers in 2020 because of the lockdown, and how long does it take to replenish those herds?
There is enough content here that Sundance can do an entire series of articles.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
justavoter 10/15/2021 10:43:49 AM (No. 946337)
Elections have consequences and stolen elections have catostophic consequences. This is what mail in ballots get you
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Kafka2 10/15/2021 11:04:38 AM (No. 946365)
Another case of the Biden administration addressing a non-problem while failing to see and do anything about the real problem.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
NotaBene 10/15/2021 11:17:17 AM (No. 946381)
If Trump were President, as he was elected, he would send in the normal trucks. Los Angeles is circling the drain.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
Zigrid 10/15/2021 11:21:29 AM (No. 946388)
Quite frankly...I don't give a rat's patootie about Christmas...at least from the business moguls point of view...Christmas is about family and church attendance and being together...not outrageously priced items companies try and convince US WE need...my best memories...as a child was dime store candles on our fireplace mantel and singing Christmas songs together with my sisters...homemade items for each other...the chi/coms can't spoil my Christmas by shutting down the economy as a scare tactic...so my fellow Americans...Merry Christmas and a blessed New Year...
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
DVC 10/15/2021 11:42:11 AM (No. 946439)
So, NOW we know who did it.
In the style of "Clue".....
It was CARB, in Sacramento, with a pen, who murdered the shipping traffic.
It's always the 'green' maniacs destroying everything.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
NotaBene 10/15/2021 11:50:13 AM (No. 946451)
The great Don Surber highlights of the news today: “Sundance scooped the world with the first explanation of why California's ports cannot offload cargo quick enough.”
The Conservative Treehouse is a National treasure.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
Starboard_side 10/15/2021 12:22:16 PM (No. 946492)
Well, it's actually not that simple.
Everyone I know, and I've been in the industry for 40 years now, has never seen a situation like this, and there is no one single item that's the "silver bullet" to solve the problem at the ports.
No one is predicting any meaningful change until late 2022, or maybe early 2023.
- Big box retailers have extensive on-dock and off-dock free time built into their contracts with the ocean carriers, and many utilize those days fully (free storage).
- Truckers typically set their pick-up appointment on the LFD (Last Free Day), and if they have a problem making that appointment, the container ends up in demurrage (a charge by the terminal operator).
- Most trucker, local port dray truckers, are independent contractors - some have been trying everything they can to organize and unionize them for decades.
- Most political entities in CA decided to "resist" the Trump administration, and likely set things back as far as working on solutions.
- The Ports have been forcing a green initiative, and have zero tolerance to bend, or ease off in any way - the port complex has much cleaner air now than just a decade ago.
- The ILWU contract is up for negotiation next July, and they need to elect new officers prior too.
- Doubtful they have any incentive to speed things up with the same amount of labor when they will be pressing for a larger increase, higher wages (most already earn 6-figures as a base), and add to their Cadillac insurance benefits.
- They have a lot of leverage as they see the ocean carriers making billions of profits now (most lost billions for decades) with the industry projected to earn a record $150 billion this year.
- Once they get those new hires, it will take time to train them which will be right in the middle of next years peak season.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 10/15/2021 12:34:19 PM (No. 946506)
Good article; apparently demands a 34-word headline.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
PCMM 10/15/2021 12:44:21 PM (No. 946521)
LDotters are the best group on the net. Intelligent comments from wise Americans. Thanks.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
Timber Queen 10/15/2021 12:47:06 PM (No. 946530)
Well, if my state can't be good example, at least its a horrible warning to the rest of the country.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 10/15/2021 12:54:15 PM (No. 946541)
All part of the degrowth of the nations economy agenda. Remember that prosperity and freedom are two things they work hard to destroy on a daily basis.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
antitox 10/15/2021 1:09:44 PM (No. 946562)
This is what happens when people elect morons into offfice:
EVERYBODY LOSES.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
Philipsonh 10/15/2021 6:07:00 PM (No. 946892)
To Reply #17 - ports cannot be built in states that do not border an ocean. Please look at a map and make an alternate suggestion.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
Philipsonh 10/15/2021 6:36:44 PM (No. 946912)
Much to my chagrin, I found out that my 2009 Kia ,which was sold new in New York State, has a CALIFORNIA exhaust system, so to repair it would cost over double what the same repair would cost for a NON-California exhaust ( if they exist ). Solved that problem with a shop that welded the repair instead of replacing parts, for less than 1/10th the cost. Saw on the article's original website comments about truckers having the same problem with their vehicles. Only trucks they could obtain were built to Ca. specs. and ran far poorer than trucks built otherwise ( older trucks ). The manufacturers should just build vehicles for non-Ca. States and let Ca. suffer until they cave. 5/6 of the nation is OUTSIDE Ca. and Ca. is really at odds with the rest of the Country.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
MickTurn 10/15/2021 6:41:36 PM (No. 946918)
Yep Californication does it to all of us again...
Time for an Executive Order to force California Politicians to allow all Trucks to pick up goods.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
kono 10/17/2021 3:56:26 PM (No. 948995)
I believe this should stay in the Must Reads list for at least a week, unless it's been somehow refuted or retracted. The disinformation about the backup still keeps everybody distracted from the real cause.
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