Afghan troops are filmed laying down
arms as US general overseeing NATO exit
says he's shocked by how quickly they've
surrendered to the Taliban and 1,000
are caught fleeing the country
Daily Mail (UK) & Agence France-Presse,
by
Ross Ibbetson
Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon,
7/6/2021 12:09:47 PM
Afghan troops have been filmed laying down their arms to the Taliban as the terror group shows off the American-made weapons it has seized after US and Nato troops beat a hasty retreat. The Afghan army is collapsing across the country and the Taliban appear to be winning the propaganda war with videos to prove that they will welcome surrendering soldiers—as long as they hand over their state-of-the-art weapons and Humvee armoured cars.(Snip)However, General Austin Scott Miller, commander of US and Nato troops in Afghanistan, said he was shocked by how quickly the Afghan National Army had surrendered to the Taliban.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Ribicon 7/6/2021 12:15:00 PM (No. 837458)
Headline on the main page of the DM website had the cost of this 20-year war as $800 billion, while an analysis by Brown University from a few months ago said the cost to US taxpayers was $2.26 trillion. I get it, the arms contractors made a fortune, but to what benefit to us? A properly functioning nation would have the principals arrested for this disaster.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
red1066 7/6/2021 12:17:19 PM (No. 837462)
I seem to remember this happening in Vietnam about 45 years ago. Wanna buy an ARVN rifle? Never fired and only dropped once.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
coldoc 7/6/2021 12:22:43 PM (No. 837467)
We'll never learn. You NEVER give a gun to muslims.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
FunOne 7/6/2021 12:26:28 PM (No. 837472)
You can't give people freedom.
Freedom is earned, not given.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
sanspeur 7/6/2021 12:28:29 PM (No. 837476)
well the French fought a bit .. “serve your country “? the only ones served , wash———ington , Making blood $$$$rot in hell bush , bomb-a-nation , xixom .. freak use all.
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Why would he be shocked? The Afghanis have been feckless for more than 20 years about taking over security duties from the US. They have no interest in at. Had Trump not started this pull out, We would be 'training' their security forces 50 years from now.
When is the US going to learn that most countries in the world don't want the concept of freedom? These aren't Westerners. We tried this crap all the way back to Korea. It took generations for the South Koreans to westernize. It was a total failure in Vietnam, and has been a total failure in the ME as well. They don't want to be self-reliant.
Nation building is a fool's errand. The purpose of a military is to kill the enemy and destroy their ability to make war.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Heraclitus 7/6/2021 12:31:46 PM (No. 837480)
Should have given the military a mission to utterly destroy the enemy. Perhaps build and maintain a base from which massive retaliatory assaults could be launched when terrorist Taliban al Qaida and others raised their murderous heads.
Should there be any surprise that the metastasizing islamist cancer re-erupts when our military were denied the liberty to eradicate it?
So much money was wasted, but much more has been squandered.
Our precious soldiers who nobly and bravely carried out the missions they were given, their sacrifice is what grieves my heart. Praying for them and their families.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
jalo1951 7/6/2021 12:42:25 PM (No. 837490)
We cannot save everyone. A $trillion here, a $trillion there, dead Americans, maimed Americans, blood and treasure. I have no doubt they are currently lining up traitors and mowing them down with the guns and ammo we left behind. Leave them to sort it out, no matter how ugly it gets. And it will be ugly and we just have to let it go. The only fear I have is their plotting to attack us again. Otherwise please feel free to self destruct as it appears that is what you want.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
planetgeo 7/6/2021 12:49:39 PM (No. 837500)
A country that is not willing to fight for it's own freedom is not a country that our military should be fighting for either. Ever again. Anywhere.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Nimby 7/6/2021 12:56:39 PM (No. 837510)
Shocked?? Shocked General Miller? Get outta here!
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 7/6/2021 12:59:31 PM (No. 837515)
How long before we start seeing terrorist attacks originating from Afghanistan? Its quite obvious that Afghanistan is turning into a terrorist state again.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 7/6/2021 1:15:36 PM (No. 837535)
Btw, are any of the Taliban leaders from the 9/11 era still alive? Hopefully not. I vaguely recall one leader never got caught, but also disappeared from sight. Zarqawi?
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
mc squared 7/6/2021 1:21:23 PM (No. 837545)
The old JV team?
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Maggie2u 7/6/2021 1:29:10 PM (No. 837552)
How soon before we see videos of burqa clad women being frog marched into stadiums to be shot in the head accompanied by the sounds of cheering muslim men? Video's of little girl's being killed because they dare to go to school, their buses bombed and their schools torched with muslim men throwing them back into the burning buildings. Quaint traditions muslims have.
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This will be part of Biden's legacy...
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
lakerman1 7/6/2021 2:19:11 PM (No. 837597)
No, #15, we have to be fair in assigning blame, and the blame rests with Bush 43 and the Kenyan Klown, who infamously said, "Afghanistan is the good war."
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
bad-hair 7/6/2021 2:53:37 PM (No. 837620)
I believe it was President Trump who started this process. Al Qieda's gone. Isis is gone. Let the rats fight each other over the rocks they now happily own. We are out and thank you President Trump. Surprised slow Joe isn't sending troops back in actually.. Must have figured that voters have reached their tolerance level for his BS.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
stablemoney 7/6/2021 2:56:47 PM (No. 837625)
If you don't eliminate your enemies, they are still around.
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#13 - Trump wiped out the JV. This is the freshman team.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
zephyrgirl 7/6/2021 3:06:38 PM (No. 837635)
#9 is right. We should have cleaned out the terrorists' nests and LEFT. You can't teach people who don't value freedom to love it. or fight for it.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
RayLRiv 7/6/2021 3:15:45 PM (No. 837647)
ARVN 2.0
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
sanspeur 7/6/2021 3:18:57 PM (No. 837650)
you KNEW this was a QUagmire from the minute “colon “ powell ( apit) stopped the advance into bagdhad because , because ??? the photos were not good and the embedded lefty photographers made them even more so .hello jerry rivers ( geraldo ) etc ..
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Foghorn 7/6/2021 3:26:38 PM (No. 837656)
What's knew about dropping arms, small arms to tanks. and running. There were 2,000 Iraqis' that dropped everything and ran and ISIS took the equipment with less than 200 combatants. The armies are not willing to fight for their rights and their country.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
pros7767 7/6/2021 3:30:30 PM (No. 837661)
My sympathies to all of those who lost loved ones or were injured in Afghanistan.
I remember how sick we felt, having lost a son in Iraq, when Obambi pulled our troops out of Iraq and ISIS moved in. I have no words to offer you except that you served your country well and did what you were asked.
I am glad that not another American will be sacrificed for a country unwilling to fight for their freedom.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
SkeezerMcGee 7/6/2021 3:36:11 PM (No. 837665)
Perhaps the U.S. Military should re-think continuing our troops in Europe. It's reported that Germany has the best economy in Europe.
When I served in the U.S. Army (armored Infantry) ) near Frankfurt, West Germany, it was reported as follows: That German farmers prayed for tank convoys to traverse their farms. If we destroyed a tiny tree, the U.S. government paid the farmer the value of the estimated board feet of lumber as an ADULT tree. If we ran over a chicken, the farmer was paid the value of the estimated number of eggs that chicken would have laid during the estimated remainder of that chicken's lifetime. Hopefully these payment are no longer being paid.
Facts regarding our Troops stationed in Europe:
"Germany hosts the largest portion of US troops in Europe — roughly 38,600, . . ." This is also more military personnel than the US keeps in any other country except Japan. * * * Germany is home to five of the seven US Army garrisons in Europe (the other two are in Belgium and Italy), and the US Army Europe is headquartered at the garrison in Wiesbaden, a city close to Frankfurt in central western Germany. * * * Figures provided to DW by the US military show that these five garrisons, . . . currently comprise around 29,000 military personnel. This number includes the US Marine Corps Forces of Europe and Africa, which are headquartered in Böblingen, southwestern Germany, as part of the US Army Garrison Stuttgart. In addition, roughly 9,600 US Air Force personnel are spread across various locations in Germany, including the two US Air Force bases of Ramstein and Spangdahlem."
https://www.dw.com/en/us-military-in-germany-what-you-need-to-know/a-49998340
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
danu 7/6/2021 4:21:07 PM (No. 837707)
Are we surprised at the speed with which Gen Nuisance surrendered precious remembrances belonging to WTP, collected from the rubble of WTC and Breezy Point, as he slinks off in cowardly retreat.
Prancing git.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
subman47 7/6/2021 4:28:08 PM (No. 837717)
They will not fight against their own religion. They'd rather have proxy fighters. Once the US said they were done the Afghan army said feet don't fail me now. Within months we will be reading stories about how the Taliban took over and slaughtered those Afghans that helped the Great Satan as we are called in the Muslim world. Any chance the UN would step in and help the Afghans against the Taliban? Are you kidding me? NO CHANCE! What good is the UN any way?
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
jinx 7/6/2021 4:40:48 PM (No. 837722)
I'm not shocked, and I am not a General.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
3XALADY 7/6/2021 6:50:59 PM (No. 837828)
#27 I thought I read a few weeks ago that we were bringing thousands of Afghanis over here who had helped our military. Wonder what happened to that.
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Biden’s Border, Biden’s Afghanistan… will there be an America when Biden is done with it?
Who will stand up and fight against this evil man and his filthy mob?
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
udanja99 7/6/2021 7:35:03 PM (No. 837870)
We should have learned from Russia’s experience in Afghanistan a few decades ago.
Also, don’t forget that over 75% of the troops we lost there were lost during Smidgen’s reign of error.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
bighambone 7/6/2021 8:20:43 PM (No. 837905)
When the USA went into Afghanistan, in what has now obviously amounted to a redo of what occurred in Vietnam with political generals running the show who never won a war. Instead the USA should have used the tactics reminiscent of Genghis Khan wiping the Taliban and the other Islamist terrorist groups from the face of Afghanistan, and should have then quickly departed that country, with the warning that if international terrorist sprung up again from that country, that the US military would be back in greater numbers and capabilities. Instead after about 20 years operating on the ground in Afghanistan, that we are hearing from the top US General there is him saying that he is surprised that the Taliban is able to cow the Afghan Government soldiers to surrender en mass?
It seems to me that back right after the US invaded Afghanistan that a number of Russian Generals with past experience in Afghanistan forecast that eventually the USA would get tired and pull out of Afghanistan without wiping out the Taliban and others there who have been warriors there for a thousand years.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 7/6/2021 8:23:40 PM (No. 837907)
The United States should NEVER AGAIN send her sons and daughters to fight for a country that does not cherish freedom and liberty with a hefty respect for freedom of religion. It's a fool's errand to try to prop up Sixth-Century Muslim hellholes when the entire infrastructure is rotten to the core with fanatics dedicated to annihilation and destruction of anything remotely "civil," starting with education and sanitation.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
rbruce20 7/6/2021 10:54:06 PM (No. 837991)
Russians are laughing. We didn't learn their lesson. The place isn't worth one Russian or American life.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
mifla 7/7/2021 4:31:04 AM (No. 838135)
Shocked? Seriously?
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Why, it's as if Georgie's Big Adventure was a complete waste of US lives and money. Also, it's shocking but not surprising that General Austin Scott Miller, commander of US and Nato troops, would be even remotely surprised that Muslims quite happily change sides and allow others to fight their battles.