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A massive surge in COVID vaccine deaths

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Posted By: DVC, 6/16/2021 12:15:03 PM

A month ago, Tucker Carlson raised concerns over the unusual number of deaths associated with the COVID vaccines. Prominent "fact-checkers" immediately scrambled to discredit these concerns as "misleading" and "lacking in context." FactCheck.org even went on to say, "it's wrong to suggest that reported deaths in the VAERS System database were all caused by vaccines," but Tucker Carlson never made this claim. The news site Revolver provided context with a graph that showed an astonishing 3,000% spike in vaccine-related deaths. Unfortunately, the article did not provide a link to the source, and the "Open VAERS" website is cumbersome to navigate.

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Three research projects were tried in the last few years which tried to develop a vaccine based on mRNA technology. In each project, the vaccine was made, and experimental animals were injected. In each project, 100% of the research animals died.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: poliposter 6/16/2021 12:23:03 PM (No. 817610)
OP, I scanned the article and did not see your claim about 100% of test animals dying. I have seen the same claim on the internet (so it must be true, right?) but never a source. So I did a search for the claim. Came up with no credible information on the claim. If you have a source for your statement about the animals dying, please provide it.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: DVC 6/16/2021 12:23:47 PM (No. 817611)
Clearly, the current massive human experiments being run with mRNA 'vaccines' are showing much better survival rates than the animal experiments, but I am still more afraid of the mRNA 'vaccines' than I am of the virus, and I am in my 7th decade. This requires a personal judgement of relative risks, and "who do you trust". If I was under 50, and without pre-existing medical conditions, with the roughly 99.98% survival rate, it seems obvious to avoid the risk of their experimental 'vaccines'. This isn't something like smallpox with a 50% death rate in all age groups. That class of virus would require an entirely different evaluation of relative risks. Each person has a different situation, and must evaluate and choose for themselves. It could be a very important choice. Be informed, choose well.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: jimincalif 6/16/2021 12:31:34 PM (No. 817618)
I'm in my 60s with a couple of health conditions, so I got the vaccine. My son and daughter-in-law both had Covid (mild cases), the way they look at it getting the vaccine is taking some degree of risk with zero benefit. They have natural immunity, but they don't have a vaccine card. Will they be second-class citizens? Time is approaching where a choice has to be made. My son has been working from home, his company is starting to re-open their offices - for those who are vaccinated only. Will he have to get vaccinated to work even though he's already had it? Makes no sense. But the only thing that has made sense about this whole thing over the last 18 months has been the left using Covid as a way to get Trump. But having done this, they aren't satisfied and don't want to relinquish their ill-gotten dictatorial powers.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: earlybird 6/16/2021 12:53:41 PM (No. 817639)
Re #1, thank you. We often see “statements of fact” presented without links to sources. They are useless. If you couldn’t find a source, perhaps none exists?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: DVC 6/16/2021 1:00:55 PM (No. 817643)
RE: #1 comments, that information is from other sources, but is valid. It has been reported by multiple medical doctors. I first heard it from Dr. Lee Merritt who is a surgeon, but used to work for the government on bioresearch projects. If you want to hear it directly, here is the interview with Dr. Merritt. The relevant portion starts at 3:45. Her point is that we have no track record of success in lab animals with an mRNA vaccine. And we are not sure what the mRNA actually has made in your body. We are told that it makes the spike protein, but that is unproven. Her comment on the binary poison is particularly chilling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DDgDDu1a3o&t=42s
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Reply 6 - Posted by: earlybird 6/16/2021 1:07:49 PM (No. 817652)
Re #1, these appear to refer to this animal death rumor: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-mice/fact-check-a-2012-study-did-not-use-mrna-vaccines-or-result-in-animals-dying-from-disease-idUSKBN2A22UW From another source: Claim 2 (Inaccurate and Misleading) Hall: “As I’ve read, they actually started the animal test, and because the animals were dying, they stopped the test. Folks, I think that’s important to understand that what we’re talking about is the American people are now the guinea pigs, this is the test program that’s going on. They didn’t do the human testing, and they stopped the animal test because the animals were dying and then they turned it out for the public.” This statement by Hall is inaccurate and misleading on several counts. Firstly, the vaccines tested during preclinical trials didn’t cause animals to die, nor did the trials stop because animals were dying. As explained in this fact-check by Full Fact, if animals had died during the preclinical trials, it would have halted clinical trials in humans as well, and “The fact that [clinical trials in humans] were not [halted] indicates the animals did not die unexpectedly”. https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/covid-19-vaccines-were-tested-in-animals-and-clinical-trials-before-receiving-authorization-vaccinated-people-arent-dying-at-a-higher-rate-than-unvaccinated-people/
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Reply 7 - Posted by: earlybird 6/16/2021 1:11:23 PM (No. 817656)
Re #3, your son and DIL must have been given some record of their vaccinations. All of the vaccination providers in California gave cards documenting both the first and second vaccinations, the dates, location and the data on the vaccine material itself, including lot number.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: DVC 6/16/2021 2:05:27 PM (No. 817696)
Many/most 'fact checkers' these days are assigned to try to paper over escapes of the truth. Remember when people believed Snopes?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: poliposter 6/16/2021 8:45:06 PM (No. 817898)
#8, it's been many decades since I earned my B.A. in history, but we were trained to seek out primary sources. In this case, I want to see the studies. No one has produced them, so therefore, I assume they don't exist. When someone sends me a link to a doctor who says this or that . .. I investigate the doctor or researcher to look for possible motivations. It's the only way to get the truth.
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