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Posted By: Dreadnought, 5/4/2021 1:05:28 AM

Washington The Biden administration is considering using outside firms to track extremist chatter by Americans online, an effort that would expand the government's ability to gather intelligence but could draw criticism over surveillance of US citizens. The Department of Homeland Security is limited in how it can monitor citizens online without justification and is banned from activities like assuming false identities to gain access to private messaging apps used by extremist groups such as the Proud Boys or Oath Keepers. Instead, federal authorities can only browse through unprotected information

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Dreadnought 5/4/2021 1:08:16 AM (No. 774749)
This is blending the FBI, the DHS, and the 'Steele Dossier' crowd with the Southern Poverty Law Center. What could (has?) possibly go wrong? This is a Five Eyes scenario at the CONUS level. This article suggests a modified limited hangout for something that's ongoing.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 5/4/2021 1:24:59 AM (No. 774751)
Remember when they called Trump a dictator ? Congress should just go home.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: wilarrbie 5/4/2021 1:45:35 AM (No. 774759)
Big Brother has morphed into a creepy step-dad with a sketchy history and currently up to no good, but your whore mom doesn't care anymore.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: web 5/4/2021 2:20:59 AM (No. 774772)
Neither the Proud Boys nor Oath Keepers are "extremist" groups. What they believe in is perfectly mainstream and American. Why no mention of monitoring true extremist groups such as antifa or BLM, who burn down cities, assault random citizens and police, and use violence as a political weapon? These people live in an alternative universe, where they believe they can change reality by changing the definition of words... such as "extremist."
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Reply 5 - Posted by: stablemoney 5/4/2021 4:36:25 AM (No. 774788)
That is spying, and without a warrant, and without having shown any probable cause.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: daisey 5/4/2021 4:56:38 AM (No. 774796)
Define “extremist”.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: franq 5/4/2021 6:06:47 AM (No. 774814)
You bet. I was on Lucianne at lunch last week. Attempted to read an original article in USA Supreme. Got a full page error message saying I had attempted to access a "Hate, Supremacy or Militant" site. Whoa. Or is it woe.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: GO3 5/4/2021 6:07:37 AM (No. 774815)
Well, would those private sector companies include CACI, GD, etc. who are now underemployed due to withdrawal from Afghanistan? You see folks, our intel agencies are just adept at pass throughs to the people who do the real dirty work.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: 5 handicap 5/4/2021 6:35:58 AM (No. 774827)
If an act is prohibited, contracting it to someone else is also prohibited! Am I missing something? The Democrap party is despicable!
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rinktum 5/4/2021 6:42:16 AM (No. 774831)
I can remember when talk like this would have been unheard of and both democrats and republicans would vigorously denounce it. Seems times have changed. Democrats promote it and Republicans may whine about it but ultimately democrats will get their way. I always thought President Regans quote, “ Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend out sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was like in the United States where men were free.” was something that could never happen here. How wrong I was. Living it is devastating, heartbreaking, and becoming all to real.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Socio 5/4/2021 6:49:02 AM (No. 774834)
So they can't constitutionally spy on US citizens so they are going to employ private entities to do it for them, kind of scary how easily the government can circumvent the constitution isn't it?
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Sergeant Major 5/4/2021 7:00:50 AM (No. 774842)
The slippery slope just got wetter.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Johnnie Barleykorn 5/4/2021 7:02:26 AM (No. 774844)
Here come the thought police, and they will decide what thought is acceptable or extremist, like anything that represents traditional American values.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: philsner 5/4/2021 7:11:13 AM (No. 774851)
Emmanuel Goldstein, call your office.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 5/4/2021 7:14:01 AM (No. 774853)
The gummint isn't allowed to monitor our communications - - so they're going to let antifa do it. What could possibly go wrong?
14 people like this.

Reply 16 - Posted by: woodenleg 5/4/2021 7:19:31 AM (No. 774858)
Its standard operating procedure to create front companies to distance the function from a intelligence organization. Il bet anyone a bag of donuts it's already in place and I would like to take the opportunity to say hi to the FBI, DEA, DHS and I hesitate to leave out the NSA.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Toby Ten Bears 5/4/2021 7:22:21 AM (No. 774861)
This is the slippery slope we were warned about when Bush implemented this stuff after 9/11... What could possibly go wrong? Too late now.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Son of Grady 5/4/2021 7:36:06 AM (No. 774870)
This Government has no idea the size of their enemy they are creating.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: dolphin 5/4/2021 7:41:58 AM (No. 774872)
First Amendment Loophole copied from another venue: Step 1: Government asks Big Tech to censor you Step 2: Big Tech censors you Since the government didn’t technically censor you, your First Amendment right was not technically violated. You are effectively silenced by the government with no standing to claim your rights were violated.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: worried 5/4/2021 7:54:27 AM (No. 774882)
If the government is in any way tied to big tech spying on you, that is an abridgement of your constitutional rights. Any lawyer would argue that big tech would not have spied on you if government hadn't asked them to.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: DVC 5/4/2021 8:21:53 AM (No. 774914)
Probably check out all the wild eyed 'extremists' at Lucianne, too. Anything to the right of Chairman Mao is an "extremist" to these Communists.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: 3XALADY 5/4/2021 8:27:48 AM (No. 774924)
It's here. Not long ago I was going to post something and a word I had used (maybe Ch*-na as PDJT used) stopped the post.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Strike3 5/4/2021 8:27:59 AM (No. 774925)
It's not the chatter that the Supreme Dicktater has to worry about, it's the action we will take when we finally get fed up with him.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: jacksin5 5/4/2021 8:29:48 AM (No. 774927)
Class Action Lawsuit. Paying off 75M+ Conservatives could get pricey.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: smokincol 5/4/2021 8:33:30 AM (No. 774930)
and on that subject: who will decide what is considered "extremist"? will someone consider the dialogue on Lucianne.com "extremist"? this is very dangerous territory these subversives are heading into.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Clinger 5/4/2021 8:50:25 AM (No. 774952)
This blending between government and business has a familiar ring to it like something I read in a history book or two or a hundred. Oh yea, Nazi Germany. Government sells special favor and that favor is paid back in the form of services that accomplish things the law prevents government from doing. There was a SCOTUS ruling on something similar to this once that recognized the private entity as essentially an extension of government. May have been Marsh V Alabama. As if the law matters what am I even thinking.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Hugh Akston 5/4/2021 8:59:44 AM (No. 774966)
...and the current climate in our country is giving tacit, unspoken approval, to those of our 'neighbors' to become members of the Volunteer State STASI Corp.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Speedypetey 5/4/2021 9:09:44 AM (No. 774982)
"Der Kommissar's in town, oh He's got the power and you're so weak And your frustration will not let you speak." Falco We use to sing along to this song on the radio and we thought the lyrics were written to mock a dark time in the Cold War Communist Block history. SURPRISE!
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Reply 29 - Posted by: J. Arthur Brown 5/4/2021 9:27:27 AM (No. 775005)
It bears repeating that in the United States we do not have a Government which is empowered to impose an official orthodoxy and therefore we do not have a government that is empowered to ban any thoughts as "extremist." The Government is limited to investigating and prosecuting illegal acts which persons may undertake to further their beliefs. The Federal Government already possesses sufficient authority to address the blatant online organizing of illegal activity by the likes of Black Lives Matter and Antifa but obviously lacks the desire to do so.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: NamVet70 5/4/2021 9:33:08 AM (No. 775016)
The fact that they are leaking this as "is considering" sounds to me like they are probably already doing this and want to be able to claim it is "old news" when someone leaks it.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 5/4/2021 9:33:48 AM (No. 775018)
I am sure we LDotters are and will continue to be closely monitored by DHS and other rogue agencies as well. We must be careful not to disclose too much personal information about ourselves when commenting on the posted articles. Clear you browser history often even if you use Duckduckgo.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Strike3 5/4/2021 9:34:17 AM (No. 775021)
Antifa and BLM are much too stupid to conduct this type of operation so they will continue to be Joe's ragtag foot soldiers. The NSA did not build that brand new site in Utah to listen in on your phone calls to Grandma, although they routinely do. They will employ contractors to gather the data and they will do the sifting and processing and tell the FBI where to conduct the raids. Not that Joe's Puppet Masters would worry about any of it being Constitutional. That concept was abandoned by our intel agencies about 70 years ago.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: Trapper 5/4/2021 9:42:24 AM (No. 775030)
So, with a wink and a nudge, will DHS also be "partnering" (that means hiring as independent contractors and paying them, to those who haven't been following this stuff for the last 6 years) with third parties to break into homes and offices, rifle through and photograph private papers, and plant listening devices and web cams? Looks like 2021 will see an ABUNDANT crop of fruit of the poisonous tree. Heck, they hired third party contractors to perform illegal searches of the NSA databases, searches they could not have done themselves without a warrant. Seems to me our government employees should spend less time trying to figure out ways around our Constitutional protections and more time diligently pursuing those they catch fair and square. HALF of the Portland rioters (they repeatedly tried to set fire to a federal building) had their federal charges quietly dropped. DHS is not building public confidence in their motives OR methods.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: justavoter 5/4/2021 9:44:46 AM (No. 775034)
So if you disagree with the administration, you are an extremist. Got it.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Zigrid 5/4/2021 9:51:52 AM (No. 775040)
AND ...this is new?... the Washington intelligence community has been doing this for years... I remember when hoover was listening to Dr. Martin Luther King's phones and following him around...for what reason?... was hoover nervous that Dr. King was getting to popular with his community and therefore a threat to the democrats...it's always about power and control...my advice... stay off social media unless you are confident of it's base...remember... you can always turn it off...
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Reply 36 - Posted by: learner 5/4/2021 9:55:06 AM (No. 775044)
Extremist chatter? Like the stuff from Antifa and BLM promoting riots and killing police? Didn't think so.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: dst4life 5/4/2021 9:55:58 AM (No. 775045)
Expect to get a visit from the FBI for saying something online that hurt the feelings of the "woke" CIA agents. This new bunch has NO concern for national security. They are self-absorbed, have onion-skinned sensitivities, and want to get rid of anyone who doesn't support their "wokeness."
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Reply 38 - Posted by: janjan 5/4/2021 9:56:27 AM (No. 775046)
Obviously there is a concentrated effort to persecute white people and conservatives. Never bow to this or give up. As they push more and more of this on the public a backlash is starting. It began in Texas this week. I am a proud conservative woman not the least bit ashamed that I am white. And I don’t mind explaining this to anyone who needs enlightenment.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: DVC 5/4/2021 10:04:06 AM (No. 775055)
#15....LOL! NSA stores ALL electronic comms. 100%. They have your phone call to Aunt Mabel in Milwaukee in 2001, and every email you ever sent to anyone. Access is "strictly controlled"....which now days, means, any Dem operative or corrupt FBI agent, or crooked DoJ (which is to say almost all from both agencies) can access anything for any purpose. FBI = KGB.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: cor-vet 5/4/2021 10:09:10 AM (No. 775064)
And we can expect crickets from the ultra liberal ACLU, I'm guessing!
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Reply 41 - Posted by: RedWhite&Blue2 5/4/2021 10:23:44 AM (No. 775081)
What’s a Katie Bo? And what’s an extremist group? Like Antifa and BLM? This is all bass ackwards !
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Reply 42 - Posted by: MickTurn 5/4/2021 10:41:10 AM (No. 775096)
Seriously, so it seems we'll have to take down these 'Corporations' with Boycotts. Once they lose all their profits they will have little incentive to target US...AND if we are a 'target' what goes around always comes back...sometimes much worse!
4 people like this.

Reply 43 - Posted by: Starboard_side 5/4/2021 10:50:24 AM (No. 775110)
These "private" companies would be acting on the behest and direction of government agencies. And, didn't SCOTUS make a ruling about the "right to privacy" a while back? So, would these entities now be considering any message posted as on a public forum, thus, similar to "you have no right to privacy outdoors"? If so, then wouldn't that open up the argument that likes of FB and Google would be operating on public broadcasting / transmitting lines, and expose them to be similar to a utility? Didn't AT&T get broken up into "baby bells" once upon a time?
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Reply 44 - Posted by: NotaBene 5/4/2021 11:25:10 AM (No. 775147)
All the Kings horses and all the Kings men couldn’t put the Big Lie together again.
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Reply 45 - Posted by: antitox 5/4/2021 11:44:57 AM (No. 775161)
They are no longer trying to hide what they're doing. Shameless.
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Reply 46 - Posted by: dst4life 5/4/2021 12:06:18 PM (No. 775184)
This regime doesn't need "probable cause." That is an old relic to them. They only need to say that their feelings were hurt. Thanks, Supreme Court!!!
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Reply 47 - Posted by: red1066 5/4/2021 12:09:28 PM (No. 775187)
Have they checked themselves? There's nothing extreme about loving your country and trying to prevent a communist take over. Until the first amendment is repealed, go ahead and speak your mind. If they try and take that away, then the 2nd amendment can be used.
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Reply 48 - Posted by: Pepperpot59 5/4/2021 5:34:47 PM (No. 775451)
One must ask, why are the Democrats so afraid of their constituency? Joe Biden is trembling in his boots so bad he must ban the motorcycle riders for the Memorial weekend ride to Washington DC. The guilty flee when no one pursues. I think they know they cheated so bad in the election that they are an illegitimate government and are afraid of being called on it.
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Reply 49 - Posted by: local500 5/4/2021 6:36:42 PM (No. 775514)
This is how you go around the 4th amendment. Also, look up the history of the Stasi in East Germany, post World War II. That's how they controlled the whole country. Hired people to spy on their fellow citizens.
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Posted by Black Conservative Voice 5/4/2021 8:45:18 AM Post Reply
President Biden and first lady Jill Biden visited former President Jimmy Carter and former first lady Rosalynn Carter at their home in Plains, Georgia, on Thursday, Biden’s 100th day in office. The Jimmy Carter Presidential Library released a photo of the visit, and presidential historian Michael Bechloss posted it on social media Monday night. The photo saw both Bidens appearing to loom large over the Carters who were pictured on sitting on two living room chairs. All four were pictured without face masks – despite Joe Biden insisting that he wears a mask while outdoors even though he has been vaccinated against COVID-19.
VIDEO: College Professor Launches
Racist Rant At Deputy, Files Complaint
On Him
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Posted by Grateful 5/5/2021 10:41:37 AM Post Reply
Los Angeles, CA – A college professor who went on a racist rant against a Latino sheriff’s deputy who stopped her for using her cell phone while driving has gone viral for her hateful behavior (video below). The incident occurred in April when a Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputy stopped a driver who was allegedly using her cell phone while driving, FOX News reported. Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department (LASD) deputies are not yet equipped with bodycams but the deputy told KTTV that he had purchased a bodycam “to protect himself on the job.”
Basecamp Employees Flee Company
After CEO Rejects Woke Capitalism
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Posted by Black Conservative Voice 5/4/2021 6:02:45 AM Post Reply
About one-third of the employees of software developer Basecamp have quit their jobs after the company’s founders asked them to focus on developing software, rather than get involved in politics at work. Basecamp co-founder and CEO Jason Fried told employees that “every discussion remotely related to politics, advocacy, or society at large quickly spins away from pleasant.” “We make project management, team communication, and email software. We are not a social impact company,” Fried added, encouraging employees to focus on their jobs rather than politics while in the workplace.
Kamala Harris says Biden is sending an
extra $310 million in aid to Central America
where 'corrupt' governments are motivating
migrants to head to the U.S. in
record numbers
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Posted by Imright 5/4/2021 2:19:36 PM Post Reply
Kamala Harris revealed Tuesday the U.S. is sending millions in aid to Central American countries and blamed 'corrupt' governments for the surge in migrants heading north at her first public event as 'border czar' - five weeks after she was given the job.'The United States has announced we will send an additional $310 million to the region,' she said.The vice president's comments come as the administration plans push Congress to pass a bill sending $4 billion in aid to Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador over the next four years. During her remarks at the 51st Annual Washington Conference on the Americas Harris underlined her role addressing 'root causes' of migration.
Jimmy Carter, 96, and wife Rosalynn,
release picture from last week's meeting with
maskless Joe and Jill Biden - leaving social
media baffled at its Very odd perspective
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Posted by Imright 5/4/2021 2:38:15 AM Post Reply
A bizarre yet endearing photo has been released of President Joe Biden and First Lady Jill Biden meeting with former President Jimmy Carter and former first lady Rosalynn Carter. The perspective of the photo saw both Bidens appearing to loom large over the Carters who were pictured on sitting on two living room chairs.The photo was taken at the Carter's home in Plains, Georgia last Thursday, 78-year-old President Biden's 100th day in office. The couple live in two-bedroom rancher the president built himself since before he entered the White House.
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