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We’re supposed to believe that only 11 million
illegal immigrants are in the USA and that the
number has been the same since 2003

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Posted By: ladydawgfan, 2/13/2021 11:53:11 AM

Some numbers are constants, a fixed numeric value established by physics, mathematics, geometry, law, literature, or logic. They never change. For example, π (pi, 3.1416), the Ten Commandments, the Three Musketeers, 12 inches in a foot, and 11 million illegal aliens. That’s right, eleven million illegal aliens in the United States. In recent years we have seen once-immutable values changed before our eyes – nine planets, two sexes, and more. But since 2003, the number of unauthorized aliens present, illegally (need to emphasize that), in our supposedly sovereign nation has been wired in at 11 million.

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There is a multitude of reasons why leftists don't want people to know the actual number of illegals here in the States.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 2/13/2021 12:07:10 PM (No. 694620)
Probably more like 30 million illegals.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: TruthTellerTommy 2/13/2021 12:21:35 PM (No. 694637)
if I may, one more constant that now isn't ... "there are two sides to every story" ... thanks to Big Tech and Mainstream Media, now, ---there is only one, ---theirs
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Christopher L 2/13/2021 12:31:46 PM (No. 694650)
#1, you are correct - 30 million ( or maybe more ) is the correct number. Let that sink in, 30 million, approx 10 % of the population, one in ten, is here illegally. A nation that cares so little about the rights and responsibilities of citizenship cannot survive.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: mathman 2/13/2021 12:32:55 PM (No. 694652)
I remember asking a State Department representative about this in 1985. He could not give me an answer. This is a question which CAN be answered. In the U S Military is a skilled group of persons who create plans for future action. This particular part of intelligence is able to tell the military about regions not under U S control. One must know all about how many people live in an area, what kinds of military supplies they have, and how well trained they are. That same skill can be used on the U S population. Evaluate the water use and sewage flow. Count the number of bottoms (trucks) bringing in food. Evaluate the amount of waste which is generated. Use satellites to determine how much infrared radiation is generated. Every human leaves a footprint, and this can be determined. We could find out. But many do not want this information known. I do not know the reasons for this secrecy. But we could find out if we wanted to. No census is needed.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: udanja99 2/13/2021 12:38:57 PM (No. 694662)
My guess is more like 40 million. How many waltzed in during the Smidgen reign of error and then proceeded to breed like rabbits?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 2/13/2021 12:40:59 PM (No. 694667)
Ann Coulter, back in the day when she was a reliable Conservative voice, said that the real number was between 30 and 49 million. And how can there be cheap labor when the Federal minimum wage is $15/hr for everyone?
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Starboard_side 2/13/2021 12:43:05 PM (No. 694672)
President Trump tried to fix this on-going issue, but Democrats needed the issue more than they wanted to fix the broken immigration system and give Trump a "win". They were more worried about the politics than doing the right thing for these people. Put them on a path to citizenship by filling out the applications(would suggest a $3000 per person application fee that would be non-refundable), going through the background checks, and they can start at the end of the current line of those waiting (this would not be amnesty since it would not be immediate and would likely take 8-10 years like the current applicants wait) this would include DACA members. People should not feel their story is muddled by how they arrived. People should want to go through a legal process of entry even if they've been here for 10+ years. Democrats could have solved this problem when Obama was president, but they chose not to, and that should be hammered home to the people who've been affected by their inaction just so they could use them as pawns in a political game.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: bad-hair 2/13/2021 12:57:37 PM (No. 694691)
I as a Canadian had lived in Texas on a TN visa for 15 years and got casual about it. My life and friends (and wife) were Texas. Made a trip to visit in Canada and was stopped (no entry) on the border coming back. Renewed my Tech visa and promptly applied for a green card. After five years of process and $5000 was eligible for citizenship. Why can some Guatemalan with no English or education walk up and say Refugee and walk on in ?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: mc squared 2/13/2021 1:19:23 PM (No. 694710)
First time I've seen that statement in print. I've been hearing 11 or 12 million illegals for 20 years. There are almost that many in Florida alone.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Mizz Fixxit 2/13/2021 1:54:50 PM (No. 694753)
When Biden grants amnesty, and 40-50 million illegals apply, democrats and rinos will put on their incredulous face and say, “we had no idea this many immigrants were living in the shadows.”
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Reply 11 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 2/13/2021 2:01:04 PM (No. 694757)
Old data is always invalid. In IT, we were always told to guard against it. Of course, the number of illegals in the United States is a political issue so the truth will never be spoken with regard to it.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: singermom9 2/13/2021 2:29:28 PM (No. 694775)
When Reagan allowed amnesty he said 1 million. Turned out to be 3. If there is 1 illegal there are 50 million AT LEAST.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: bighambone 2/13/2021 2:38:43 PM (No. 694785)
Nobody actually knows how many illegal aliens are now in the USA. Smugglers who bring illegal aliens unlawfully across the borderline do not give their illegal alien customers dated receipts showing when they brought those illegal aliens across the borderline. Most illegal aliens try to secret their illegal status in the USA by using some sort of bogus or counterfeit identification documents and/or by making false claims to US citizenship that is supposed to be a federal felony. Since the 1990’s the supporters of mass uncontrolled illegal immigration and their media allies have been telling unknowing Americans that there are 11 million illegal aliens in the USA. There has never been a legitimate count of all illegal aliens now in the USA. Last year there was a seemingly more accurate and authoritative assessment released indicating that there were about 22 million illegal aliens then in the USA. Biden now has stated that he wants to put all of those illegal aliens on “a path to citizenship” that would be a huge amnesty and is Democrat code for transforming the illegal alien population into eventual Democrat socialist voters by the tens of millions in the years ahead. It would take several years for the Government to complete such a massive amnesty application process, during which time untold numbers of new illegal aliens who enter the USA unlawfully while the amnesty application process is underway would also be able to file amnesty applications and who knows how many additional illegal aliens that would be. Beyond that, all the illegal aliens granted amnesty will gain the right to bring their foreign immediate family members into the USA to join them. Remember Biden has been saying that he will not allow the families of illegal aliens to be separated. Nobody knows how many additional foreign origin people those family members would amount to, possibly 50 million, which may be a lowball figure. Remember just about all illegal aliens and their family members are non-English speaking, poor, uneducated, and unskilled manual laborers. Since there will never be 50-70 million unskilled American jobs for those foreign origin people to hold at a time that there are huge numbers of American workers, many of them legal immigrants, who were holding unskilled jobs before they were laid off, so how are all those amnestied and related foreign origin people going to support themselves in a modern high-tech society? Well the Democrats propose to grant them all “free” government provided healthcare and a lot of other government benefits and services in return for their future votes in the years ahead, thus keeping the Democrats in political power permanently in both the Congress and the White House.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: OhioNick 2/13/2021 2:56:40 PM (No. 694795)
In 1954, President Eisenhower deported over one-million Mexicans back to their country -- even the ones born here because they weren't U.S. citizens. It's a shame no one has the spine to do the same thing today.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: subman47 2/13/2021 3:47:01 PM (No. 694836)
It's at least twice that. And Sleepy Joe would love more. Why? There's always room for undocumented democratic voters. You never know when you might have to steal an election.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Heil Liberals 2/13/2021 4:09:20 PM (No. 694854)
My public school continues to brown. Our ESL classes expand every month as more and more people come here, in our case from Guatemala. At $10k per student, it is getting very expensive. On the other side of this is the fact that they become some of our best students, while whites and black students fail. Entitlement and single motherhood, or grandparents, or great grandparents, or foster care are killing our citizens born into situations not of their own making. Our illegals see opportunity; our citizens see dispair.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: hershey 2/13/2021 4:12:42 PM (No. 694859)
Yeah, only 11 million, in KALIFORNIA...
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Reply 18 - Posted by: J. Arthur Brown 2/13/2021 4:35:05 PM (No. 694876)
Just wait until you see how many illegals apply for amnesty based on documents dated "January 1, 2021."
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Reply 19 - Posted by: OhioNick 2/13/2021 5:16:48 PM (No. 694907)
Guess what? If the Republicans win the House and Senate in 2022, they could impeach Barack Obama. One of the things that still angers me, Obama's decision to publicly out members of SEAL Team 6 was a matter of treason. From a 2013 article in US News: "The families of some of the 17 SEAL Team 6 commandos who were killed in an ambush in Afghanistan during a helicopter flight to help Army Rangers pinned down by Taliban gunmen accused the Obama administration of deliberately endangering their loved ones for political ends."
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Reply 20 - Posted by: OhioNick 2/13/2021 5:17:30 PM (No. 694908)
Sorry for the above comment. It was meant for another thread.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Venturer 2/13/2021 5:33:53 PM (No. 694918)
10 Million illegals and 436,000 Americans died from Covid. I don't believe anything the Government puts out.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: JimBob 2/13/2021 9:20:03 PM (No. 695124)
The illegal alien numbers from Quid-Pro-Joe's handlers is about as reliable as the Covid-19 Death Count from Cuomo the Killer.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 2/14/2021 1:42:33 AM (No. 695274)
It has been 12 million since GW's guest worker program brought millions here. Want to know how many are here ? Check the welfare records and cross check with Western Union wires.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: franq 2/14/2021 10:11:47 AM (No. 695573)
Lying libs. They inflate COVID deaths and deflate the illegal population.
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