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The Guarantee Clause, The Electoral Count
Act of 1887, The DNI Ratcliffe Report on
Foreign Interference and VP Mike Pence

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Posted By: Harlowe, 12/29/2020 1:45:00 AM

Amid our national discussion and evidence of wide-spread mail-in ballot vote fraud; and considering the January 6th role of the Senate to certify the 2020 presidential election; and considering a report from Director of National Intelligence, John Ratcliffe, is forthcoming with previous assertions of “foreign interference”; and considering five states are sending dual sets of electors; there has been some discussion about “The Guarantee Clause” within the constitution and how it might uniquely apply to 2020.(Snip)Again, this is all uncharted territory. However, there are people claiming this process could work to keep President Trump in office.

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The article is a worthwhile, interesting read. The author points out the judicial branch has little, if any, role in the Guarantee Clause which confines that jurisdiction in the executive and legislative branches.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 12/29/2020 2:33:20 AM (No. 643781)
Somebody had better do something to save US from socialism PDQ.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: qr4j 12/29/2020 2:46:00 AM (No. 643784)
If Biden had won fair and square, I wouldn’t like it but I could live with it. But there’s been nothing fair or square about this election. Vote counting that stopped in the middle of the night? Sworn testimony of fraud being witnessed? And election officials making up the rules rather than following the law? Is that fair and square? No. I’m tired. I’m sick of it. And I hope the Left gets its comeuppance legally and morally in the very near future. But I’m not gonna hold my breath. Rinos! And a Left bent on violence.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: HisHandmaiden 12/29/2020 3:01:39 AM (No. 643785)
“The Guarantee Clause, The Electoral Count Act of 1887, The DNI Ratcliffe Report on Foreign Interference and VP Mike Pence”... sundance suggests several options... Pray for the godly wisdom of Solomon when there was one dead baby and two mothers... For righteousness’ sake for America, and our children and Grandblessings... and for Your Glory, LORD. KAG
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Boliver 12/29/2020 3:02:45 AM (No. 643787)
Needs to be a must read. Some of the comments re constitution / law are very informative also.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: sparky joe 12/29/2020 3:04:43 AM (No. 643788)
How about Executive Order 13848 which is Triggered when it has been determined that there was Foreign Interference in our Election? This authorizes The President to put a Halt on all Election-Related activities such as Certifications, Run-Off Elections and other attempted Usurpations of Power. It also authorizes him to SEIZE THE VOTING MACHINES so that they can be Forensically Examined by Experts All Legal Means Necessary to Save The Republic JUSTICE MUST AND WILL PREVAIL
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Corndoggies 12/29/2020 3:45:12 AM (No. 643795)
I’ve been reading articles by a James Delingpole re The Great Reset. That’s what President Trump is trying to prevent. Pray to God he’s successful.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter 12/29/2020 4:13:56 AM (No. 643802)
#5 - A simple EO signed by Trump won't fly in the gravity of this situation. Imagine the possible scenario: January 6; Congress meets; the Capitol Building is surrounded by hundreds of thousands of MAGA protestors who have invaded Swamp City; the President of the Senate exercises the plenary power of the Federal Government and nullifies the electors from five states based on documented evidence of interference by a foreign power in violation of both the Constitution (Article IV - Sec. 4) and federal law (Electoral Count Act of 1887); alternate electors from those states then cast their votes; Trump wins the election.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Timber Queen 12/29/2020 4:18:53 AM (No. 643803)
Interesting and informative read explaining another constitutional avenue for a Trump victory. I don't know the shape of this victory, but I feel it with every fiber of my being. Don't ever bet against Donald J. Trump. MAGA Day - January 6, 2021 in D.C., or your state capitol ... or your city hall. Show our strength!
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Reply 9 - Posted by: DCGIRL 12/29/2020 6:50:02 AM (No. 643831)
I'm not sure if I missed something. I'm still waiting for the big bang that Rudy Giuliani has been promising us that will explode after Christmas.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: mathman 12/29/2020 7:00:09 AM (No. 643832)
Go ahead. Look up 3 USC 15. Read it. Then tell me what it says. And describe the sequence of events as stated in the law. What happens, in sequence, on January 6, 2021. Who does what? I double dog dare you. This law fixed nothing. It should have been so simple. Citizens in a State vote. Their votes (NOT ballots) are counted. Not machine tabulated, counted. 1,2,3, and so on. No adjustments made based on anything. The count is reported to the State legislature. The legislature, in turn, reports to Congress. End of story. Anybody can make a mistake. To really foul things up takes a committee. 3 USC 15 is a mouse designed by a committee, which looks like an elephant. Rube Goldberg would be green with envy.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: ARKfamily 12/29/2020 7:04:20 AM (No. 643833)
#9, I guess it depends on your definition. I have been reading headlines and a lot is being revealed. Go to Trump News and there is a video that links Ukrainian corruption to the Bidens. How much more do you need? The list goes on. . .
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Reply 12 - Posted by: singermom9 12/29/2020 7:09:20 AM (No. 643837)
Trump got 74 million votes. There are 133 million voters registered in the USA. If every single registered voter voted there would ONLY be 59 million votes left for Biden. How did he get 81 million votes? FRAUD.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: F15 Gork 12/29/2020 7:17:13 AM (No. 643841)
Here’s the solution: President Trump vs China Joe, tomorrow at sunup with flintlock pistols at 20 paces. No contest. Creepy would soil himself.......
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Reply 14 - Posted by: privateer 12/29/2020 7:34:24 AM (No. 643848)
I believe the Judgement of Solomon concerned a living baby. Still a good comparison.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: franq 12/29/2020 7:39:40 AM (No. 643855)
FWIW, the judgement of Solomon involved a dead AND living baby.... Two harlots, one whose baby died. Of course we know the ending. I didn't go to Divinity school, but have read the Bible!
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Reply 16 - Posted by: rsgonner 12/29/2020 7:54:27 AM (No. 643868)
I am in favor of whatever Constitutional means necessary to right this fraudulent election. If Biden takes office, our Republic is dead. If Roberts is so afraid that ruling against Biden would cause riots, how can those be any worse than losing our country completely? And when Trump is ruled the winner, ALL the perpetrators need to be prosecuted and, if convicted, punished to the fullest extent of the law. That means all of those election officials, like the mother/daughter team in Atlanta seen on camera running ballots through the machines multiple times. This can never happen again and severe punishment is the only remedy.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 12/29/2020 8:11:49 AM (No. 643880)
The call to save Americanism. All hands on deck time is approaching. You are being called to assemble in Washington DC on January 6th. And to state capitols. Stop the steal. Socialism awaits if we punt.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: bassman 12/29/2020 8:26:02 AM (No. 643887)
For the most part our lawmakers are Trump hating weaklings. In a world that made sense Trump would be reelected by the House, but in today's world not a chance, unfortunately.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: LLAMA 12/29/2020 8:28:46 AM (No. 643892)
At the end of the day, the American people are the arbiters of the fate of the Republic. Not the Congress or the President, not the courts, but the people. The founders believed this, and the belief in it shaped the Constitution and the first 10 amendments to it.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: MDConservative 12/29/2020 8:53:21 AM (No. 643908)
Mike Pence is apparently facing a Profile in Courage rendezvous with destiny moment. Will he blow up this fraud? Or will he endure the catcalls of the faithful for accepting defeat to open the door for Biden?
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Reply 21 - Posted by: little guy 12/29/2020 9:06:17 AM (No. 643924)
Where I am on this whole thing right now is very simple: The elites of the Far Left have stolen the 2020 presidential election from the people of the USA and did so right under our very noses and did it so blatantly as if to to say "Yeah --- what are ya goin' to do about it? Shut up & sit down!" Well ... I'll tell ya what I'm going to do about it. After hearing many left-leaning people I know basically say that they couldn't care less if the election was stolen as long as Trump (the Bad Orange Man) is removed from office then I say I don't care if Trump steals it back! So there! If you dare, just briefly visit "progressive" web sites and you will read incredibly hostile and anti-American rants were many of the posters are GLAD that Biden stole the election! To the Far Left I say: "If I have to suck up China Joe & Legs Up then you'll just have to suck up 4 more years of Trump & Pence." And I don't care anymore how Trump stays in office. By hook or by crook. Oh ... you say you're going to riot & burn things if you don't get your way with Biden? Go ahead. This time we'll be ready for ya. We can survive a few riots but not the collapse of our system. After a few of your faithful give their last full measure I doubt there will be many riots after about 30 days.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Little Peep 12/29/2020 9:31:13 AM (No. 643951)
Pray for Mike Pence!
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Sully 12/29/2020 9:46:16 AM (No. 643967)
Socialists stole this election. Period. It is plain to see and only denial of reality can refuse to see it. But that is where we live now, in denial of reality. All of the strategies, all of the plans and legalisms, all are an attempt to force a population to simply accept reality sitting in front of them. If an overwhelming plurality have given their minds over to sophistry, are incapable of seeing objective reality, I'm not sure you can win em back with legalisms. Nor do I care. Let the President ram through his PROVABLE election victory and let the socialists riot. They're doing that anyway and promise to continue. Then we will prepare for the day when the socialists attempt to pervert whatever path President Trump legitimately applies.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Mike6 12/29/2020 11:15:48 AM (No. 644030)
Foreign, Venezuelan hackers working for Biden de-frauded the 2020 election. Biden, Kamala and lying Hillary are dirty, filthy communists. Trump won the 2020 election. He should never concede. Trump should fight for America until the cows come home.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: heartlandconservative 12/29/2020 12:02:57 PM (No. 644082)
Right you are #1, now what are you going to do? That same question should be asked of every Patriot and Christian in this country. Ain't nuttin gonna happen unless we do it.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Luandir 12/29/2020 12:48:22 PM (No. 644128)
Where's the damn report?!? The nation can't afford another Durham.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: anniebc 12/29/2020 12:58:11 PM (No. 644130)
We have on paper that President Trump legitimately got 74-76 million votes, but he actually got (minus fraud) well north of 80 million votes. Some machines were giving Biden 1.44 votes per vote while giving President Trump .66 votes per vote. And, old, slow, senile, evil, corrupt, failure Biden (fake ballots included) is the one with north of 80 million votes. Come on!
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Reply 28 - Posted by: 4Justice 12/29/2020 5:49:15 PM (No. 644361)
There is NO "somebody" out there to save us. Only WE can save ourselves!! Yes, there are other folks out there helping to save us, but it is INCUMBENT uoin us ti save ourselves!!! Until people realize this, we are lost. We MUST make ourselves heard!! They cannit ignore hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) of us!! ALL of us MUST take action, make calls, send letters & emails, organize, plan, get out and get more people involved. God helps those who helps themselves. We cannot afford to hope someone will come save us. If we just sit around, it is the same as surrendering. We MUST resist. We must demand redress for the fraudulent election!! Get out there! Take action NOW! Or the alternative is horror....loss of freedom, loss of opportunity, oppression, and suffering. It's up to you!!
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Lawsy0 12/29/2020 7:12:07 PM (No. 644450)
Democratic Presidential Nominee Joe Biden recently bragged that Democrats have created the "most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics." He knew what he was talking about.
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