Pope endorses same-sex civil
unions in new documentary film
Associated Press,
by
Nicole Winfield
Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon,
10/21/2020 11:18:57 AM
Rome—Pope Francis endorsed same-sex civil unions for the first time as pope while being interviewed for the feature-length documentary “Francesco,” which premiered Wednesday at the Rome Film Festival. The papal thumbs-up came midway through the film that delves into issues Francis cares about most, including the environment, poverty, migration, racial and income inequality, and the people most affected by discrimination.(Snip) While serving as archbishop of Buenos Aires, Francis endorsed civil unions for gay couples as an alternative to same-sex marriages. However, he had never come out publicly in favor of civil unions as pope.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
David Key 10/21/2020 11:22:01 AM (No. 579572)
Well, he's the Catholics leader, I am not Catholic but I think they need to fire him and hire another Pope.(yes I know its' not that simple.....but)
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam 10/21/2020 11:23:01 AM (No. 579575)
This pope is a dope.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
DVC 10/21/2020 11:24:52 AM (No. 579577)
"Is the Pope a Communist?" Yes, of course he is.
Evil afoot everywhere in the world, even inside the Vatican.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
DARling 10/21/2020 11:36:51 AM (No. 579592)
Does he also say that actually engaging in homosexual acts is a sin according to Catholic doctrine? Does he suggest that homosexuals who enter into a civil union should remain chaste and not act upon their homsexual desires?
How can this man call himself the Pope and not be a warrior for Catholic principles?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
His_Highness 10/21/2020 11:38:17 AM (No. 579593)
St Peter's body is rolling over in its grave. His Spirit, in heaven, is weeping.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
TXknitter 10/21/2020 11:41:33 AM (No. 579598)
Its not JUST this Marxist infidel Pope. Pope Francis did not install himself as leader of the Catholic church. The depth of the satanic influence, sexual perversion, left wing ungodly politics and evil permeates the entire Vatican.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
ControlFreak 10/21/2020 11:42:03 AM (No. 579599)
Oh boy. As a lifelong and still practicing Catholic, I have so many mixed emotions about this. I agree that marriage should only be between a man and a woman. However, I have friends who have gay children, I have relatives who are gay, and I have friends who are gay. They are all exemplary citizens and a few are conservatives, and some are Catholics. My heart breaks for them, however, to know that they are forbidden by the Catholic Church from being in a loving, caring relationship that is more than just sex, and having their loved one being named next of kin. I just wish that there were a cure. And I feel awful that I am conflicted.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
bldrrepub 10/21/2020 11:48:19 AM (No. 579604)
Pope Benedict XVI - He's tanned, rested, and ready.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Safari Man 10/21/2020 11:52:12 AM (No. 579609)
Next he’ll endorse priests molesting alter boys.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
TJ54 10/21/2020 11:54:22 AM (No. 579612)
Time for some canon lawyers to figure out a way to try Pope Libtard the First for heresy and then depose him
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
bad-hair 10/21/2020 11:54:58 AM (No. 579613)
He's probably in one. Maybe even three. Hunter Biden been to Italy lately ?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
kono 10/21/2020 11:56:25 AM (No. 579615)
Usually secular stories about the Church declaring something wind up missing the mark, largely because the secular media spin those to put words in the Church's mouth, figuratively speaking. But this time what the Church says about this seems to agree with what the enemedia are saying.
****
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
udanja99 10/21/2020 11:57:33 AM (No. 579618)
Who didn’t see this coming? Just one more reason why I haven’t attended mass or given one penny to the church this year.
B16 is my pope.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
jimincalif 10/21/2020 12:02:48 PM (No. 579621)
More notable than the specific issue of civil unions is what is missing from the Pope's list of "issues Francis cares about most". What about abortion, declining membership, articles of faith, etc.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Starboard_side 10/21/2020 12:04:34 PM (No. 579626)
#7, the Pope is talking about Civil Unions, not marriage. However, this was what started in states like California, but later ended up opening up marriage for everyone, so not sure the Pope can have it the way he is possibly framing it, at this time.
And, if they really wanted to open the doors to disaffected Catholics, they'd present a new option on divorced Catholics.
After all, once divorced, they aren't welcomed into the church the same way, which means they stop taking their children too. I've advocated for some sort of penance to be allowed to welcome divorced Catholics back into the Church.
The rationale, if a murderer, who is contrite and has welcomed Jesus as his Lord and Savior, is allowed to confess his sins, and be forgiven, why can't they find a way to forgive divorced Catholics. I know, it's a Sacrament, but there should be a way to save them to remain active members of the Church without looking like, or feeling like, a pariah.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
altoona 10/21/2020 12:04:38 PM (No. 579627)
I agree with Pope Francis on this. I am a practicing Catholic who wishes Benedict were still pope, but I see no point in opposing civil unions that have nothing to do with the church but make life easier for our brothers and sisters.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
SkeezerMcGee 10/21/2020 12:06:19 PM (No. 579630)
I DO NOT want this Pope to suffer ANY harm, but it's interesting several "bad" Popes were mysteriously eliminated. One lasted only three days.
List of Popes who died violently:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_popes_who_died_violently#Murdered_popes
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
DVC 10/21/2020 12:07:22 PM (No. 579633)
Friends, relatives who are gay.....you can't pick your relatives, but you can pick your friends.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
columba 10/21/2020 12:10:38 PM (No. 579637)
The Pope is NOT considered infallible unless he speaks "from the Chair of Peter" and with assent of the bishops. His statements as an individual do not meet those requirements.
Each one of us can find this info online by searching for Catechism of the Catholic Church.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
clayusmcret 10/21/2020 12:37:35 PM (No. 579661)
The enemy within.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
mc squared 10/21/2020 12:42:19 PM (No. 579663)
Will the Pope now reverse Pope Pope Gregory VII's (1139AD) edict that prevents a priest from marrying a woman and having a family.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
udanja99 10/21/2020 12:55:02 PM (No. 579674)
#15, divorced Catholics are not banned in any way from the Church or its sacraments. It is divorced Catholics who remarry that are denied communion because, according to Church law, they are committing adultery.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
plaids 10/21/2020 12:57:59 PM (No. 579676)
He says they're children of God! Okay so for those certain "practicing devout Catholics, JB and NP aborted babies are children of God."
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Flyball Dogs 10/21/2020 12:58:27 PM (No. 579677)
Full disclosure: I’m not Catholic.
However, I’m assuming the Pope worships the same God I do and follows the same Bible (plus some).
My only question to him: You got Bible for your views?
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 10/21/2020 1:09:00 PM (No. 579687)
Oh well, there's still God.
Know what happens to a church parishioner who becomes dissatisfied with their church or religion? They leave.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
JunkYardDog 10/21/2020 1:27:06 PM (No. 579703)
A civil union between two individuals is not the same as 'marriage'. I don;t care if your partner is your pet iguana but you cannot marry another person of the same sex.
This Pope is a disgrace. The Church itself is falling into ruin under his leadership. Hey, here's a suggestion: stop prohibiting priests from marrying! The Pope is OK with men marrying men and women marrying women, why not let priests marry too? Sure would cut down on the percentage of pedophiles wearing the collar. What say you, Francis?
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Yuban 10/21/2020 1:33:32 PM (No. 579713)
I reckon your Pope is a cafeteria Catholic, just like Biden, Pelosi et al. I have never EVER known a Catholic that adhered to the Catholic faith. I know there must be some but I have never met one. I know we are all sinners and fall short of the glory of God but c'mon man, homosexuality and pro-abortion? That is really ok for a Catholic?
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
NeverForget 10/21/2020 1:42:34 PM (No. 579728)
I feel for those who have homosexual tendencies for whatever reasons. That's a very tough one. I also feel for those who have other destructive and self-destructive tendencies (aka pretty much everybody in one way or another and to lesser and greater degrees). One difference is that generally people do not ask the world to encourage the destructive behavior. Much less celebrate it.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
OhioNick 10/21/2020 2:33:25 PM (No. 579761)
We are all sinners. We are all tempted to commit sinful acts. But when you show pride in a mortal sin and reject the Bible's teaching on homosexuality, you're putting your eternal soul on the line.
Is enjoying a bit of pleasure of the flesh really worth separating yourself from God for all eternity? After all, hell is hot and eternity is an awfully long time.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Blue-Z-Anna 10/21/2020 3:06:02 PM (No. 579782)
Eggs Benedict is still locked in the broom closet at Castle Gandolfi.
Commies, criminals and kleptocrats all use the same brutal methods.
Vote for Creepy Joe or your cities will burn.
Ya....that's the ticket.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
lisa belanger 10/21/2020 3:08:08 PM (No. 579783)
as a devouted catholic i never liked
that communist we have in charge he is disgusting
i do not pay attention to what he said and says my elationship
with christ has nothing to do with the marxist he will have to answer
to his god
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
OhioNick 10/21/2020 3:29:52 PM (No. 579799)
Sorry for the second post.
God is far more strict when judging members of the clergy. Although I don't pretend to be speak for God, it certainly looks like this pope is in big trouble.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
Sully 10/21/2020 4:26:04 PM (No. 579836)
Il Papa, such as he is, can speak as a Pope about sacramental marriage. He has no input on pagan marriages of any kind.
The faithful in the pews have calibrated their receivers for this guy. He is to be waited out, not waited on.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
Faithfully 10/21/2020 4:52:58 PM (No. 579852)
Are hetero couples who live together outside of marriage still "living in sin?"
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
P51DMustang 10/21/2020 5:14:51 PM (No. 579883)
I do not believe a word that AP prints. Lets see what he really said before we jump the gun here.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
swarfer 10/21/2020 5:38:02 PM (No. 579920)
The Pope is entitled to his personal, non-doctrinal opinion like everybody else no matter how social destructive. Unfortunately this will interpreted as a green light for gay relationships rather than control of one’s passions.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
paral04 10/21/2020 5:52:44 PM (No. 579933)
Amazing how politicians/leaders can change the definitions of words. Marriage is defined as a legal union between a man and a woman. If two homosexuals' want to form a domestic partnership all they need to do is draw up an agreement delegating power of attorney to the other if anything happens to them. It ain't marriage any more than 1 +1 is 3.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
Geoman 10/21/2020 6:38:26 PM (No. 579978)
With no pushback from the Normals and with aid and comfort from the media, leftists are increasingly revealing what they've always been.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
kiwikit 10/21/2020 7:28:40 PM (No. 580015)
Bring Back Benedict XVI!
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
stjohnswood 10/21/2020 7:30:49 PM (No. 580016)
The Catholic Church has it's own Deep State and it's only gotten deeper under Bergoglio. He's been busy the past 7 years stacking the College of Cardinals with ''men'' just like him. So waiting for him to finally drop dead, or be forced out ala BXVI, for things to right themselves, well fat chance there. How many good priests are being actively muzzled by their like-minded Bergoglio-supporting Bishops/Archbishops? How many good priests are there, period?
As Brian Holdsworth put it the other day: ''The time for standing on the sidelines and waiting for someone or something to renew the Church has expired. The Church Needs Reinforcements." It's a thought. Maybe I'll finally convert.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
ControlFreak 10/21/2020 7:37:13 PM (No. 580022)
#15 never once did I say he wasn’t. I was simply sharing my feelings about gays and marriage.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
JackBurton 10/21/2020 7:37:19 PM (No. 580023)
I'm Catholic and I'm sorry but...
This kind of stuff qualifies as the 'great whore of Babylon.'
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
LaVallette 10/22/2020 2:56:10 AM (No. 580269)
Put your hand up all those who say that the Catholic Church forbids Catholics from going through a civil divorce. Thought so!!!!! Well the Church has a process for accepting that certain marriages fail for many reasons and couples separate and live apart, and also that other "marriages". whether contracted within the church itself or not, are null and void in the first place. The Church advises couples caught in these situations, (even if in the eyes of the church the first marriage was valid and therefore neither party to the marriage is allowed to contract a second marriage), that all parties concerned MUST also secure a civil divorce to ensure a just outcome in terms of the rights of each party to a share in the wealth accumulated during the marriage, to secure proper support for the weak, the disabled and the needy party and most importantly to ensure adequate arrangements are made for the welfare of any children that may have issued from the broken down marriage or annulment. The Church also insists that even in the case of de facto marriages, which it totally disapproves of, if they break down, the same rights that accrue to legally married partners should be extended to the parties in a de facto marriage and any children involved in particular. It is basically and issue of fundamental Natural Justice and not simply of Church dogma. What Pope Francis has said about same sex relationships is a similar and totally consistent with that regarding de facto marriage.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church acknowledges the existence of people with same sex attraction and that they have a right to live their lives without any discrimination, and despite its own strong moral prohibitions to gay sexual practices and cohabitation arrangements, as with other extra marital sexual arrangements, it also knows and acknowledges that they will and do enter into cohabitation arrangements. So what the Pope is saving about such arrangements is that, despite the church's own moral objection to the practice, under the terms of Natural Justice and its own Notion of Justice and the prevention of exploitation and ill treatment of partners to such cohabitation arrangements, the State has a duty to introduce some form of legally recognized and enforceable "civil union" contract arrangements to protect the rights and obligations of all parties involved, even though the Church does not and will not approve in its rituals such living arrangements and it does not have too. This is a perfect example of giving to Caesar the rights that rightly belong to Caesar, and to God what belongs to God. Nothing new under the sun: everything in compliance with Church perennial teachings on Justice and protections of the civil rights of those who need it most.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
LoneVoice 10/22/2020 7:29:26 AM (No. 580369)
In answer to the formerly rhetorical question,
Is the Pope Catholic?
In this case absolutely not!
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
msjena 10/22/2020 9:02:01 AM (No. 580477)
Where in the Bible are same-sex unions approved?
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The Marxist false pope emerges from yet another closet, doing his best to chase parishioners away from the church. Odd business model, but I guess he's got his worldly bases covered.