Senate passes veto-proof bill
that will strip Confederate
names from military bases
by
Ebony Bowden
Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon,
7/23/2020 8:23:12 PM
Washington—The Senate on Thursday passed a $740 billion defense spending bill that includes a provision to remove the name of Confederate leaders from military bases—setting up a showdown with President Trump who is opposed to the move. The GOP-controlled chamber overwhelming passed the legislation with a vote of 81 to 14—well over the number required to override the presidential veto which Trump threatened to wield last month in a bid to stop the bill. The National Defense Authorization Act includes a plan to change the names of army bases named after Confederate soldiers, such as Fort Bragg in North Carolina
Reply 1 - Posted by:
BarryNo 7/23/2020 8:26:39 PM (No. 488551)
We do have alternatives. If we disapprove, start a new party, vet the people running and walk away from these generational politicians. If necessary, fight them.
Understand, though; they will not let us leave. Freedom, anywhere endangers their power. if we reject them, we must fight or die.
30 people like this.
Reply 2 - Posted by:
justavoter 7/23/2020 8:32:39 PM (No. 488554)
Wimps.
36 people like this.
Reply 3 - Posted by:
Michaelus 7/23/2020 8:33:34 PM (No. 488556)
The entire country is in real chaos, a major US Navy ship self destructed at the dock in San Diego, we are still screwing around in Afghanistan and this is what Congress acts upon - all because of a small mob of violent thugs.
62 people like this.
Reply 4 - Posted by:
Ming 7/23/2020 8:33:37 PM (No. 488557)
Wow! Veto proof! What's next on your hard-hitting agenda to rid the world of injustice, my Senator? The naming of a new post office?
Totally worthless clowns, the lot of them.
65 people like this.
They are afraid of being called racists doncha know. We never win with cuckholded politicians.
41 people like this.
Reply 6 - Posted by:
poliposter 7/23/2020 8:33:59 PM (No. 488559)
Virtue signaling. Walked portions of the battlefields at Gettysburg alone this past weekend. I am grateful for the statues and markers that tell us the tale of heroism among such young people.
49 people like this.
Reply 7 - Posted by:
learner 7/23/2020 8:39:58 PM (No. 488561)
In the article it mentions 'as the nation engages in an emotional conversation about race'. Far as I can see there is no conversation! There is a lecture by the media, academia and hollywood that brooks no dissent. Shut up they explain! As far as I am concerned 'racism' as a charge has lost any credibility it might have once held.
57 people like this.
Reply 8 - Posted by:
whyyeseyec 7/23/2020 8:50:43 PM (No. 488567)
The GD republicans cave again. While everyone's busy changing the name of everything, the GOP should change their mascot from the elephant to the coward.
48 people like this.
Reply 9 - Posted by:
mc squared 7/23/2020 8:51:58 PM (No. 488568)
A small concession to satisfy the BLM crowd and stop the rioting, doncha' think?
18 people like this.
Reply 10 - Posted by:
DVC 7/23/2020 8:55:48 PM (No. 488569)
Republican Senators are yellow bellied running dog cowards.
46 people like this.
Reply 11 - Posted by:
Shmowry1 7/23/2020 8:56:38 PM (No. 488571)
I have no love for confederates. None. But I also have no love for the racist mob that is now intimidating everyone into doing what they want. Screw them.
29 people like this.
Reply 12 - Posted by:
SkeezerMcGee 7/23/2020 8:58:26 PM (No. 488572)
The relevant provision will require the Pentagon to establish a commission to rename within the next three years all military assets named after people who fought against the Union 155 years ago.
Wow!!! This is not quite "with all deliberate speed." In the world of D.C. politics a lot can happen "within three years." Stay tuned. The intended result is far from a certainty.
15 people like this.
Reply 13 - Posted by:
bighambone 7/23/2020 8:59:55 PM (No. 488574)
There won’t be a showdown with President Trump over a veto proof bill, as the President can now just ignore the bill and allow it to become law through passage of time.
13 people like this.
Reply 14 - Posted by:
planetgeo 7/23/2020 9:02:31 PM (No. 488575)
Fools. This is just the start. They're will be no end to the cultural changes they're going to demand.
35 people like this.
Reply 15 - Posted by:
Venturer 7/23/2020 9:02:52 PM (No. 488576)
It's enough to make you puke to watch this band of cowards.
Republicans taking a stand against the President----and that is what this is.
Jellyfish Mitt Romney clones any Republican who voted for this should be removed.
I see the Senate will be handed to the Democrats this year, Maybe we can get back the House if the Republicans there show some courage. Doubtful.
30 people like this.
Reply 16 - Posted by:
tyshab 7/23/2020 9:06:20 PM (No. 488577)
Not another dollar for any of them! I am almost ready to vote straight dem and give everyone a rude awakening when they see where appeasement leads. Reagan was right. We are morally, spiritually and culturally bankrupt.
27 people like this.
Reply 17 - Posted by:
JL80863 7/23/2020 9:08:05 PM (No. 488579)
I'm fed up with this meaningless virtue signaling. The names won't go away for dozens of years. Every time the new name is used, the old one will have to be mentioned. People probably know where Fort Hood is but will not know where the newly named Fort Wimp is located. The taxpayers will pick up the huge bill for new signs, new stationary and a hundred sundry other things that contribute nothing to the defense of our republic. What folly!
28 people like this.
Reply 18 - Posted by:
slipstik 7/23/2020 9:08:25 PM (No. 488581)
I'm glad my time on this earth is drawing to a close...soon now. I have loved my country with every beat of my heart. It has done the most wonderful things and it has done awful things (which it mostly no longer does), and I cherish every moment of that history.
After the Civil War, it was of paramount importance to be INCLUSIVE, to reunite the fractures the conflict created. We were successful EXCEPT for those who peer through the jeweler's loupe of "racism"
We are poised on the precipice of trashing the most pivotal achievement of our society, the preservation of the Union, and secondarily, the abolition of slavery
How do we explain how we freed the slaves if we destroy the evidence of the Civil War?
The true irony is that 95% of our black population is still slaving away on the Democrat plantation.
And the GOP is helping.
41 people like this.
Reply 19 - Posted by:
radrelic 7/23/2020 9:17:42 PM (No. 488586)
Quislings.
19 people like this.
Reply 20 - Posted by:
slawinlaw 7/23/2020 9:24:02 PM (No. 488593)
I will vote for Trump alone. No votes down ticket. Screw them.
19 people like this.
Reply 21 - Posted by:
IdahoJoe 7/23/2020 9:29:36 PM (No. 488596)
Since all the confederates were democrats, I guess that means all the new names must be Republicans.
16 people like this.
Reply 22 - Posted by:
Fosterdad 7/23/2020 9:35:21 PM (No. 488599)
If they're going to rename bases, I hope they name one after Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain. He certainly deserves to be honored that way.
10 people like this.
Reply 23 - Posted by:
LadyHen 7/23/2020 9:47:24 PM (No. 488605)
Most of the Confederates for whom forts and camps are named after were at one time US military personnel and many were veterans of the Mexican-American War and the Seminole Wars. Many were West Point graduates. These were not uneducated men who did not know their rights. I would challenge anyone to show me where exactly in the US Constitution of the time it stated state could not secede from the Union. Traitors they were not. Had they stayed in the Union and worked to undermine and destroy it from the inside, then they would have been traitors.
23 people like this.
Reply 24 - Posted by:
athina 7/23/2020 9:50:06 PM (No. 488607)
I want names of these romneyites
22 people like this.
Reply 25 - Posted by:
Plex 7/23/2020 9:50:57 PM (No. 488608)
I am sorry about the Senate RINOs BUT BEWARE, if the Donkeys get the Senate a lot of very bad things will happen. Vote down the ticket regardless of how you feel about RINOs. Remember elections are about choices. One very bad choice and one bad choice. The selection is clear, go for the just bad choice, not the very bad choice. Besides. They didn't say you couldn't chose another confederate to change the name to :)
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
hershey 7/23/2020 9:51:47 PM (No. 488609)
There's Conservatives, then there's RINO's, and then there are damned RINO's...Nov is time to clean RINO's out of the legislature....
10 people like this.
Reply 27 - Posted by:
volksford 7/23/2020 9:57:12 PM (No. 488613)
There was a civil war ?...never happened , no war ,no monuments,no fort names , no slavery ! I will become a slavery denier , if the loonies can deny the Holocaust. , Cancel culture works for me !
8 people like this.
Reply 28 - Posted by:
JL80863 7/23/2020 10:19:11 PM (No. 488624)
Great comment #22. Millennials' wiould complain that his name has "too many letters in it".
6 people like this.
Reply 29 - Posted by:
Mofongo 7/23/2020 10:24:18 PM (No. 488630)
Sounds to me as though they’re trying to suppress the base. The question is why.
13 people like this.
Reply 30 - Posted by:
anniebc 7/23/2020 10:31:46 PM (No. 488636)
This is a major cost to taxpayers. Jackasses! I despise these people.
11 people like this.
Reply 31 - Posted by:
slipstik 7/23/2020 10:54:32 PM (No. 488655)
I have to say just one more thing.
My uncle Don was an 18 year old private in the 82nd, who shipped over to Europe in late '44. He got through the Battle of the Bulge in one piece and slept with his rifle in Grant Park for MONTHS after he separated.
Now, this poor excuse for a fake Indian (native American if you must) princess, commonly called "Fauxahantas", has introduced an amendment to disconnect my uncle, and scores of thousands of his compatriots and heroes from their common history, Fort Bragg.
We've let this go on too long.
Let's bring this to a stop.
Enough is enough.
21 people like this.
Reply 32 - Posted by:
doublesharp 7/23/2020 11:03:53 PM (No. 488662)
#26, The primary in the spring is the time to clear out the rinos
6 people like this.
I propose Fort Trump as one replacement name, but unfortunately we’ll get Fort Floyd George.
5 people like this.
Reply 34 - Posted by:
4Justice 7/23/2020 11:08:34 PM (No. 488666)
I want names....then work to get them thrown out of office.
4 people like this.
Reply 35 - Posted by:
ARob101 7/23/2020 11:09:34 PM (No. 488667)
These pansies still have no clue why we elected Donald J Trump as our President.
All I have to say about the renaming of military bases is GREAT! Now I will have no place of birth.
3 people like this.
Reply 36 - Posted by:
stablemoney 7/23/2020 11:15:09 PM (No. 488671)
Senator Cruz and Cornyn voted for the bill. I wonder why anyone votes for a Republican. They stand for nothing.
7 people like this.
Reply 37 - Posted by:
Mauigirl 7/23/2020 11:53:21 PM (No. 488691)
Voting against:
Booker (D-NJ)
Braun (R-IN)
Brown (D-OH)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Harris (D-CA)
Kennedy (R-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Lee (R-UT)
Markey (D-MA)
Merkley (D-OR)
Paul (R-KY)
Sanders (I-VT)
Warren (D-MA)
Wyden (D-OR)
6 people like this.
Reply 38 - Posted by:
RuckusTom 7/24/2020 12:20:34 AM (No. 488698)
This is an attempt to erase our history. "Get there firstest with the mostest". Nathan Bedford Forrest.
4 people like this.
Reply 39 - Posted by:
snowoutlaw 7/24/2020 12:20:52 AM (No. 488699)
Veto proof at this time doesn't mean squat. The House hasn't approved it so what comes back could and likely be totally different.
3 people like this.
Reply 40 - Posted by:
Heraclitus 7/24/2020 12:23:32 AM (No. 488701)
Here's an idea for President Trump to use when he signs the bill.
He can say something like this:
Not very many people know who these military bases were named after. But now that everyone knows, it shouldn't surprise anyone that the Democrats don't want reminders of Confederate generals, all Democrats, for the whole world to understand. So remove those, and the statues and portraits from the halls of Congress, but hard as you try, Democrats, you can not erase history. The truth will always come out. The truth about your segregationist past, your Jim Crow, your KKK.
"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
There are enough things to fight hard for; changing names isn't one. But making sure the people know the racist roots of the Dem Party is important. I think they think that if they are in get in bed with the blm and other radicals, no one will ever know how rotten to the core they are, with rare exceptions.
4 people like this.
Inch by inch it's a cinch. Next time they will want the bases torn down.
Saddens my heart that the country is going to H-ll.
3 people like this.
Reply 42 - Posted by:
RedWhite&Blue2 7/24/2020 2:35:00 AM (No. 488749)
Ditch Mitch!
4 people like this.
Reply 43 - Posted by:
Trigger2 7/24/2020 2:52:37 AM (No. 488757)
Spineless is right. What are they going to rename them? Camp BLM? Camp Kenyan? Camp Jihadi? Camp Antifa? Camp Piglousi? Camp Chuckie? Enquiring minds want to know.
4 people like this.
Reply 44 - Posted by:
hoosierblue 7/24/2020 7:31:58 AM (No. 488855)
Trump should veto it anyway and see it the Rinos want to go against his base.
1 person likes this.
Reply 45 - Posted by:
JackBurton 7/24/2020 8:43:32 AM (No. 488956)
You think if you feed the alligators that they won't eat you.
Fools. You're dessert.
2 people like this.
Reply 46 - Posted by:
GO3 7/24/2020 9:28:21 AM (No. 489020)
I see this as never really happening. In addition to the house voting on it, Trump could veto it anyway. It would take months to send it back up. Even if it ran through all the wickets, then the lefties at DA would form work groups, commissions, etc. to hash out the new names. Then congress would get involved again because his or her preferred name isn't on the list. Remember BRAC? That's how this thing would go down even if passed. This is the only way this makes sense for the pubs to vote on this. It would be like handing a ball of string to the dem cats while everyone else does meaningful work.
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