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The CDC Lost Control Of The
Coronavirus Pandemic. Then
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Posted By: Pluperfect, 6/26/2020 4:20:29 AM

On January 17, the world’s most trusted public health agency, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, announced it was screening travelers from Wuhan, China, because of a new infectious respiratory illness striking that city. It was the CDC’s first public briefing on the outbreak, coming as China reported 45 cases of the illness and two deaths linked to a seafood and meat market in Wuhan. Chinese health officials had not yet confirmed that the new illness was transmitted from person to person. But there was reason to believe that it might be: four days earlier, officials in Thailand confirmed their first case,

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DCGIRL 6/26/2020 5:17:56 AM (No. 457469)
Everyone is upper management in CDC needs to be replaced. They work at the pleasure of the president and personally, CDC is doing a crappy job. They want fudged numbers, they give out stupid guidelines, etc. President Trump needs to clean house now. We need competent people working in this organization.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: franq 6/26/2020 5:22:07 AM (No. 457471)
These large government alphabet agencies produce nothing. Enormous drain on the economy and working people's budgets. Abolish them all.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: George R. 6/26/2020 6:08:04 AM (No. 457490)
It seems there is something in the government water fountains that contain a substance which causes stupidity in its users.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Freedom1 6/26/2020 6:48:42 AM (No. 457505)
Why is BuzzFeed now a credible source?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 6/26/2020 6:51:05 AM (No. 457508)
"the world’s most trusted public health agency, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention" That is absolutely a false statement now! I told my doctor that I would not be taking any vaccines promoted by the CDC, because I have no respect for their expertise. That includes the annual flu vaccine, the pneumonia vaccine that they try to push on anyone over 65, and it will definitely include the vaccine for covid that Bill Gates will be pushing.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 6/26/2020 7:17:31 AM (No. 457519)
It's a big mistake to put a woman in charge of any scientific endeavor. Women do not have the mental reflexes and improvisational insight which men do. It's not a matter of being "smart" - - or getting "good grades" - - or "having experience." In times of chaos or crisis - - women simply do not function as clearly as men do. Women and men are NOT the same - - they're different - - and men handle complex problems and situations much better.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: planetgeo 6/26/2020 7:17:48 AM (No. 457520)
The CDC has been a complete failure at its core mission: controlling disease. They have been inept at quickly identifying the source and nature of this epidemic. They do not and have not created clear, consistent protocols for dealing with it on both a personal and governmental level, and in fact have flipped back and forth on mask/no mask, etc. And perhaps most alarmingly, they have not developed or enforced clear and effective data standards for the reporting of case demographics, hospitalizations, and deaths "with/from" that should be used by ALL governmental and health agencies. That last part (no data/reporting standards) has resulted in complete propagandizing by media and politically motivated state leaders to increase panic and impose totalitarian controls. Even now, the "spike" stories are repeated endlessly to an ignorant public that doesn't understand that if the infections are climbing again in some places but the deaths are going down pretty much everywhere, they're not being told the whole story. If anything needs to be "defunded" it's the CDC. Somebody go paint THAT on the street in front of their headquarters.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: ARKfamily 6/26/2020 7:23:18 AM (No. 457526)
From the article: "It was wrong, perhaps, because Trump administration officials had cut CDC staffers in Beijing who might have reported the truth directly from China." We hand over our hard-earned, taxpayer dollars to the government with the hopes that we have agencies and programs working efficiently. When a person examines almost every program or agency, government is not working efficiently or productively. And we are finding out sometimes like the Obamas and Bidens, government is working corruptly. Our government programs and policies are failing. The airline industry needs an overhaul big time and I thought that lesson was learned with 9/11. I guess not. We should have policies in place for a person who returns to the United States from another country. Putting CDC staffers in Beijing is just a band-aid. I am tired of band-aids being used for everything. I am skeptical of this author. . .some things make sense and others don't.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: hershey 6/26/2020 7:24:12 AM (No. 457527)
'most trusted public health agency'??? I think not..their problems go way back....they need to be shut down and the swamp drained before opening again...
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Aud 6/26/2020 7:50:05 AM (No. 457555)
All in all, the article reads like a hit job on Trump.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 6/26/2020 7:52:25 AM (No. 457556)
#6 Come on man! I'll take Sidney Powell over Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer or Mitt Romney any day of the week, and spot you 20 points.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Zbogwan2 6/26/2020 8:01:32 AM (No. 457564)
All this time has passed and there is "No Go to Treatment" for this Covid-19 Virus? President Trump was right about the "HCL, Azithromycin, and Zinc" Cocktail Treatment for Covid-19 and even took same to prove his point. But nobody wanted to hear it and consequently people died. If eventually this treatment proves a Game Changer and is viable, many Nay Sayers are going to be liable for letting all those die!?
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Reply 13 - Posted by: rsgonner 6/26/2020 8:35:05 AM (No. 457593)
As a physician for 40 years, it is clear to me that the CDC, NIH and AMA have become driven by ideology first and medicine and ethics not even second, but not at all. Fauci has admitted he lied to the public. They have continually mischaracterized the data on hydroxychloroquine. Why? Because Trump touted it? Probably. Because remdesivir stands to make a ton of money for Pharma? No doubt. To push the Gates vaccine? Absolutely. Organized medicine has become an integral part of the Deep Fake Future. Don't listen to them.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Clinger 6/26/2020 8:38:26 AM (No. 457596)
Let me see if I can help #8. One of the things I have learned that trigger my distrust is when anyone attempts to slam the door shut on a line of thought with this type of statement: FTA "Everyone agrees, though, that the US response has been a disaster across the federal government, with the CDC the most visible face of failure." When you present the "everybody or everyone" agrees or knows staging for your argument, it is an immediate red flag that tells me: Everything I am about to say is dependent on this one presumption that you must accept without question because if you do you'll find that it is flimsy at best. There's no quicker way to lose me than the use of that childish tactic. Nancy Messonnier is Rod Roesnstein's sister, you know The Rod Rosenstein who supported the Russia probe, the same who suggested secretly recording our president, the same Rod Rosenstein who brought up the 25th amandment, yea that guy. Am I the only one who smells rat with my morning napalm? The hatred of Donald Trump is so great I don't doubt for one minute that the self anointed paragons of virtue wouldn't invite the needless death of their fellow citizens for their vision of the greater good. After all isn't that the choice or excuse we make every time we go to war? People in power do these things.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Trapper 6/26/2020 8:38:31 AM (No. 457597)
FTA: “Among public health experts, ….” [not so expert, it turns out] “CDC’s failures to dump its botched test, expand its testing criteria, and rethink a virus that spreads without symptoms, has baffled experts.” [see the comment above] “’One of the things I find so puzzling is you see mistake after mistake after mistake, one right [after] another,’ said Harvard global health professor Ashish Jha” [referring to CDC. See both comments above] Sounds like Nancy Messonnier (Rod Rosenstein’s sister; not a good year for the Rosenstein family) is going to take the fall for all of it. Check the quotes above, and Messonnier’s Wiki page. She has a chest full of participation ribbons for her health service work. The description of one of them pretty much says all you need to know. She got a ribbon “for service on the Awards Board and support to the U.S. Public Health Service awards process.” A ribbon for serving on the board of ribbons. Priceless. That's our expert. Doesn’t sound like she will be getting a Wuhan virus ribbon.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Rumblehog 6/26/2020 8:47:04 AM (No. 457607)
We need a "Separation of Medicine & State," with a strict means of accountability. Once the 3-letter health agencies become politicized they can't be trusted again. Screw up once and you're GONE, much like military brass.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: czechlist 6/26/2020 8:54:56 AM (No. 457616)
Almost all innovation comes from the private sector. Government agencies are the results of good intentions without concern for unintended consequences and are doomed to become eternal political bureaucracies. The Manhatten Project was likely the only one to actually reach its goal and disband.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: lana720 6/26/2020 8:55:46 AM (No. 457617)
BUZZard FEED is about right. For this publishing entity.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Kate318 6/26/2020 9:12:20 AM (No. 457644)
A long, rambling article that uses cherry-picked data to support the narrative that “Orange Man Bad.” The comments afterward are predictable, full of the typically childish response that goes something like this: Critical Thinker: I don’t believe some of these numbers.” Leftist: “Ok, if you think it’s all a hoax, why don’t you go party with a bunch of millennials, and hug them and kiss them and share finger food with them. Then, when you get COVID, I presume you won’t want any medical care.” I will give the devil his due, however. This type of propaganda has worked remarkably well. It never ceases to amaze me the number of people who believe it. I live in a state with low COVID numbers, and that never locked down (although, we had “guidelines”) and there are people here who have not been out of their house since the beginning of March.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: FormerDem 6/26/2020 9:14:06 AM (No. 457645)
#20 I have to say, your intervention is so addled you are making a strong case for your point. I doubt I can convince you of anything, given what you have written, but it does seem to me that reason is reason, and works everywhere the same way, and that it is one of God's gifts to every one of us. I do have a Ph.D. in the sciences myself and accordingly am acquainted with many ambitious women and have found in my estimate that indeed, it is not sex or gender that interferes with some people's abilities. More a question of where their interests lie and how they choose to cope with finding themselves unable to win on reason, to push through a favored point of view. Pelosi is an emotional hysteric who creates dramas to crowd people into favored points of view without discussion; then again, Biden is just a bold hypocrite. It's not sex nor gender. It's heaving drooling greed.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Quigley 6/26/2020 9:15:47 AM (No. 457647)
That’s my question #4. That said, while the article is probably misleading and or deeply flawed, one has to wonder about the CDC. Was it politicized during this “plague episode”? Was everything that happened up to some point necessary, but perhaps politicized beyond that point?
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Red Ghost 6/26/2020 9:18:14 AM (No. 457653)
Ladies and gentlemen, you have just read the Democrat playbook on how they will come after Trump and blame him for the Chinese flu and the economic destruction it has wrought. Just why is this on Lucianne? I can read this crap on an alphabet news site. BuzzFeed. Really? I should have known it was a set up against Trump.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: fayebeck 6/26/2020 9:49:42 AM (No. 457713)
The news media has their back.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: frankiems 6/26/2020 9:54:19 AM (No. 457720)
#6 - What is wrong with you?
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Reply 25 - Posted by: adguy47 6/26/2020 10:02:10 AM (No. 457728)
#6, I'd take to the streets to pull down a statue of you.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: JackBurton 6/26/2020 10:25:05 AM (No. 457757)
Made it thru most of this. The understated way that the CDC fouled things up is there but not highlighted. No 'eureka' moments in the text. Also, it's misleading, when tests have ramped up to 500k/day, to tout the number of infections. Positive tests are down to about 2-3% of all tests administered. There was a point early on when 80% of the tests were positive. But tests were only administered to people who had obvious symptoms. Other quibbles... the idea that masks were essential. As people have pointed out, if they can't stop a fart, how effective, etc. And whether asymptomatic people are deadly, contagious carriers. Not really addressed beyond saying that the CDC feared that. Further, any medical studies about '6 feet apart'? Or is one more of the missing words 'anecdotal'. Speaking of which... the article NEVER mentions hydroxychloroquine even though the effectiveness of that regimen was established with the Sars infection. Come to think of it. This is a fecal heavy article.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: fayebeck 6/26/2020 10:26:19 AM (No. 457760)
#6 Finally a woman with some logic. I have been "validated" for "hating" ALL women. Don't let the defenders of the "never say anything that questions a woman's ability to do everything a man can do" get you down." My "logical" wife of 60 years always ends every "debate" with me by letting me know "that I can't have a baby." Hang in there babe. I'm with you. "
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Arby 6/26/2020 10:44:12 AM (No. 457799)
CDC: Can't Discern (substantive) Contribution.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Lawsy0 6/26/2020 10:48:05 AM (No. 457808)
The death blow was struck by Dr. Scarf when she said she could not trust anything the CDC published. I'd agree, since everything I receive in a book from Medicare or SSA is that same old governmental gobbledygook (itsy-bitsy print on too many cheap newsprint pages.)
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Reply 30 - Posted by: ussjimmycarter 6/26/2020 11:43:03 AM (No. 457921)
As increased testing provides huge numbers of new cases...the death toll doesn't seem to be spiking. BUT, look at Drudge and it appears the sky is falling and all we can do is shut down the economy again. If that happens, plan for a Depression! Start prepping NOW! It's coming and our government is helpless against it. It will elect Joe Biden (and Obama's minions) and then we are lost as a nation!
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Reply 31 - Posted by: DVC 6/26/2020 12:28:05 PM (No. 458006)
Let's just cut their funding by 90% and see how that works. Can't be any worse than what we have.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: az2thsolution 6/26/2020 12:59:43 PM (No. 458056)
I am heartened by the number of other commenters that had the same “what the...?” reaction to #6’s breathtakingly ignorant comment. I’m a woman with multiple degrees in the sciences and an actively practicing doctor, along with my husband. In times of crisis for our business, it is I who generally takes the helm to successfully navigate us to a resolution and normalcy again. My husband frequently acknowledges that my ability to slow down and think clearly has helped us in the long run. Though he has many excellent qualities, his tendencies toward knee jerk emotion-driven responses wouldn’t improve those crisis situations. I associate with a lot of other professional women and I can assure #6 I am not an outlier. She needs to get out more.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: caljeepgirl 6/26/2020 3:52:24 PM (No. 458227)
#6, thanks for your courageous generalization! :-) I heartily concur, while recognizing that there are some rare exceptions.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: caljeepgirl 6/26/2020 3:59:51 PM (No. 458238)
P.S. - Cal grad with nearly half a century in the computer technology field where crisis management was a nearly daily occurrence.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Strike3 6/26/2020 6:31:31 PM (No. 458404)
It couldn't be because they lied to inflate their usefulness, got caught using obviously skewed numbers and were embarrassed about it. Nah.
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Orlando, Fla.—First, the country music trio, The Dixie Chicks, dropped the 'Dixie' from their name. Could Winn-Dixie be next? According to TMZ, the southern supermarket chain is considering changing its name. The term Dixie reportedly refers to Southern U.S. states, especially those that belonged to the Confederacy. A Winn-Dixie spokesperson reportedly told TMZ: "At Southeastern Grocers, we are committed to cultivating an inclusive culture and community that promotes belonging, inclusion, and diversity. As such, we stand against racism and support the Black Lives Matter movement across our country." "While our Winn-Dixie banner has proudly served our communities for nearly 100 years,
Fox News Contributor Jessica Tarlov
Says Black Lives Matter’s Marxist Roots,
‘Doesn’t Concern Me’
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Posted by earlybird 6/27/2020 11:24:51 AM Post Reply
In a discussion on a potential federal police reform bill in the Senate on Thursday, FOX News contributor Lisa Boothe, fired at fellow contributor, Jessica Tarlov, for supporting the Black Lives Matter movement, despite it’s Marxist ideology. Tarlov argued, “[Black Lives Matter is] advocating for a platform that is based on the importance of treating black people in this country equally… All lives matter cannot occur until black lives matter equally.” Boothe interjected saying, “But do the Marxist tactics not concern you?” to which Jessica said, “No, it doesn’t concern me that there are roots in Marxism.”
Monument destroyers back off after Trump
posts FBI wanted poster of vandals’ photos,
signs strong Executive Order
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Posted by Imright 6/27/2020 10:45:42 AM Post Reply
A day after Fox News host Tucker Carlson warned that President Donald Trump faces potential defeat in the upcoming 2020 presidential race unless he starts fighting back, the president donned his boxing gloves and began throwing some punches.The first punch came around 1:00 pm, when the president posted an FBI wanted poster that depicted the photos of 15 hooligans who’re wanted for vandalizing the statue of former President Andrew Jackson that lies in D.C.’s Lafayette Park.Look:(Tweet) The president captioned the FBI wanted poster by noting that the thugs, hooligans and other degenerates pictured all face up to 10 years in prison.Trump was just getting warmed up …
Appeals court rejects Trump's
border wall funding
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Posted by Ribicon 6/26/2020 1:58:37 PM Post Reply
A federal appeals court ruled Friday that President Trump did not have the legal power to siphon money from the Pentagon to build his border wall, erecting another legal hurdle in the path of his most flamboyant campaign promise. The 2-1 ruling by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals comes just two days after Mr. Trump visited the wall in Arizona, signing his name to a plaque marking 200 miles of construction during his term. In the new decision Judge Sidney R. Thomas, a Clinton appointee, said the wall is not a military project, so Mr. Trump couldn’t transfer $2.5 billion
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