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There Are Some Mistakes Science
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Posted By: Hazymac, 4/27/2020 9:15:57 AM

The COVID-19 pandemic has forced popular consciousness to face mortality after decades of anticipating life extension and even the Singularity as a birthright. Yet it did not appreciably diminish the popular belief that technology would save the day and allow us to renew the march to progress before too long. But to await salvation would be to expect more from technology than is reasonable. First, there are suspicions the pandemic itself may be the product of technology, of rogue experiments or bad lab containment. Technology does not 'save' anything of itself; it works in both directions. It can construct an electric toaster

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Reply 1 - Posted by: LadyHen 4/27/2020 10:11:49 AM (No. 393087)
Good read. In the post-Christian West the Virtues get short shrift in favor of our unquenchable passions. And when one rejects God and gives into passion, one must fill that hole in your soul with something, even science, but yet all the substitutes are always a blanket too small to truly comfort. As John Donne said "Death comes equally to us all, and makes us all equal when he comes." Science! can delay him but only God defeated him. A healthy sense of our own helplessness in the face of eternity might do everyone a world of good.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 4/27/2020 10:19:52 AM (No. 393097)
While I agree with Fernandez that science is rudderless and that humanity must make choices as to where to steer the ship, I find the rest of the article rather pointless. Is intelligence the dead end of evolution? I suppose it may look like it if you are a nihilist. However, I think it is hubris that science thinks it has THE answer. 100 years ago astronomy was not certain that other galaxies existed and some thought our sun was the center of our galaxy. We now KNOW much more. Do we know the FINAL truth? Will science look back on us 100 years from now and think how limited we were? In the article it is speculated that we can't find other intelligent life because, if it existed, it destroyed itself. Maybe, it's so much smarter than us that it hides itself so we cannot find it. Maybe it exists in such ways that we are looking for roads as proof of civilization when all they do is fly to their destinations. Or teleport. Or interact telepathically. Maybe there is a NEXT step in evolution that has put them beyond our ability to see. We look based on OUR limitations in physicality and understanding as an amoeba trying to understand a human. For the amoeba, it would be a futile effort. Meanwhile, with an explosive growth in knowledge in the last century or so, some harm has been done. But often that harm is unintentional and done from ignorance. Processes are changed and repairs are made. But much good has been desired and accomplished. Global interactions are possible. Classes in the US interact with classes in foreign countries in real time. Scientists collaborate. Goods are moved to where they are needed. Travel is ubiquitous. Commerce is broad, efficient, and cost effective providing things undreamed of to all levels of societies. This has happened from human intent to do good.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Bluefindad 4/27/2020 12:10:53 PM (No. 393235)
Wretchard dances around the point, but perhaps with too many words. Our affliction, perhaps to the point of death, is that we are becoming a scattered storm of silopsists. We no longer acknowledge or respect the existence of objective reality and the search for the truth is a fading pursuit because truth does not exist. Even the "scientists" no longer believe in empiricism. They are inclined to believe models created by humans but unsupported by objective observation. Birx should be ashamed to admit that data gathering blatantly involves "presumed" COVID-19 deaths - but no, the data are OK as long as they support her suppositions!
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Reply 4 - Posted by: DVC 4/27/2020 1:47:27 PM (No. 393361)
One of Fernandez's better ramblings. Yes, there are things that our technology cannot "fix". Slip off of high place and gravity will still act on you relentlessly and that sudden stop is unavoidable. And China is a perfect example of evil science. And like fools, our "leaders" have been helping them along for decades, as they plan to kill us all. And we buy our drugs from them, and teach them to build airliners - which are not technologically any different from bombers. And BillyJeff sent over experts to fix up their guidance systems on their "peaceful space launch vehicles" which are literally identical to their ICBMs which carry their nuclear warheads....which are designed after ours, because some geniuses let Chinese scientists work at our national labs on our nuclear weapons programs. Unsurprisingly to any sane person, these Chinese scientists were spies and stole the designs. Apparently it is very important to be stupid to be in charge of large scientific organizations.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: GO3 4/27/2020 2:57:20 PM (No. 393451)
The Churchill quote is interesting. About six years ago I was having a discussion with a co-worker who in the day, was part of a group developing nuclear targeting protocols. The discussion centered around the US WWII strategic question of "Japan first or Germany first?" There were many reasons for going with Germany first, but the key reason is in Churchill's quote. Technologically, Germany would eventually reach out and touch the US and other countries if not stopped as soon as possible. Germany first was the right decision.
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