The two party system in crisis
PJ Media,
by
Richard Fernandez
Original Article
Posted By: Hazymac,
2/6/2020 10:48:59 PM
The immediate question facing the Democratic Party is what to do now the Russian collusion investigation and the impeachment of Donald Trump both failed. Should they enter into another high stakes confrontation or should they lower the stakes? Each defeat, however subjectively glorious, exacts a price. A sufficiently long losing streak can bankrupt any party no matter how much political capital they start have.
The Democrat centrist wing is already broke according to a New York Times op-ed by Elizabeth Breunig. "The center cannot hold.
Bernie Sanders’s strong showing in Iowa is a turning point in the battle between the party’s establishment and left wing."
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Trigger2 2/7/2020 1:18:25 AM (No. 310405)
Don't kid yourselves. Piglousi and the rest of them are absolutely enthralled that a commie will be their nominee. After all, doesn't a politburo always enrich themselves at the expense of their citizens and come out unscathed?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
DVC 2/7/2020 2:08:42 AM (No. 310425)
Wretchard underestimates Trump's capabilities. In the later part of this piece he says: "Perhaps the answer is that in this unpredictable, complex world Trump's opportunism and comfort with chaos are more of an advantage than a handicap. "
This is foolishly simplistic, and entirely misses the obvious - that Trump is actually a brilliant guy, understands business and trade, and freedom, and markets far, far better than anyone else in the upper parts of ANY party.
He wins because he isn't the idiots that the rest of them are, and because he loves America, and loves free markets, and doesn't want America and Americans to be screwed by bad trade deals and globalists like Soros trying to enslave us.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Rinktum 2/7/2020 4:41:02 AM (No. 310452)
I say, let the democrats implode which seems to be the course they are on. The Republican Party is already split with the majority being Trump supporters and the rest being pearl clutching, self-serving, sanctimonious, war mongering, open border zealots. What has happened is the democrats have become socialists. The Trump supporters are the traditional make America great again patriots, and the minority left in the Republican Party are actually more in line with JFK democrats with a snooty attitude. Trump has done an admirable job of exposing the democrats as socialists. His election forced them into the light because they could not stand that he was pro-American something they believed they had buried not ever to be resurrected again. Their socialist utopia was there’s for the taking but for the election of Donald J. Trump and that set them off into a place where attempting a coup d’etat seemed like a great idea. They are crashing and burning right before our eyes. Nancy the Ripper pretty much sealed their fate with that one little stunt. It’s not over by a long shot because they will not stop. They must be defeated, crushed, and humiliated.
November 3, 2020 is the day that the patriots can wrest the government out of the hands of the destroyers. We cannot fail or they will come roaring back with revenge as their motivation. All those disgusted and disillusioned democrats who move our way and embrace the Trump Doctrine are welcome. Let’s win in November and destroy the democrat party. It has morphed into something unrecognizable and needs to be swept into the dust bin of history. After that great and wonderful feat, we can figure out the rest later.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
The Remnants 2/7/2020 8:09:18 AM (No. 310585)
FTA:
"...Trump's...comfort with chaos..."
Had to read that more than once, but I think the President is comfortable being within chaos. He seems to know how to create order out of the chaos. Big picture - end result - whatever. He certainly accomplishes a lot. Obviously, he has good people around him, but he works through one chaotic situation and tackles another. Brags a big but who cares? He is getting it done, and the swamp people in whatever party do not like that because he is showing them up way too much. Glad he is beholden to no one. it helps being as wealthy as he is. A lot of politicians self-destruct because their motives for being in politics are so self-serving. Maybe the Democrat party should reexamine their motives for doing what they do sometime. They are the ones who like and often create the chaos, because it gives them an opportunity to be manipulative ("never waste a crisis" right?), but more and more people are showing they prefer order because it leads to peace and is the way you get things done. And Trump knows it.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
jeffkinnh 2/7/2020 9:40:41 AM (No. 310739)
Not only is Trump more comfortable with chaos but he has used his business acumen to pull the government into a significant change cycle in which chaos is the norm. The dems and most Republicans are totally incapable of functioning in such an environment. Trump changed the playing field and he has significant home court advantage. Yes, it makes the public nervous as well but Trump got great results SO quickly that the public has accepted he knows what he is doing. Further, as Trump has upended Washington norms, it has become clear that those norms have not served the American People very well. The public is also aware of this and is becoming more comfortable with Trump's brand of chaos instead of the Washington malaise.
Instead of worrying about the two party system, I would be more concerned with a bloated, ineffective, uniparty government that cannot meet the challenges of the modern world. We NEED reconfigured or replaced parties to meet those challenges.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
JackBurton 2/7/2020 10:24:07 AM (No. 310793)
The focus is on the Donks. OK. I get that. They're imploding. Even the MSM/DNC press can't cover that up. But what about the Republicans?
We lost to Obama because W, while better by far than Gore or Kerry, was a middle of the road Democrat (and an unusual one in that he had competence). In 2008 we got sold out by the leadership with the willing connivance of the press by nominating an obviously unsuitable, non representative McCain. With the emergence of the Tea Party, a lot of us said Enough and the Republican Party was the split party
Trump has remade that party from within. It was the only one that had the pro-American resources and the work ethic. He's shown the Donks for the Socialist, globalist, anti-family and working man party that they are.
One other thing: The Donks made everything political. And everything dirty. The whole country from K-12, to music, to NFL, to policing, to the....weather was included in their pig pen and the elite, the country club republicans, ceded that because you "Don't wrestle with the pig. You get dirty and the pig enjoys it." Well, they used to. After trying everything else, we got us the biggest pig, the smartest pig, the strongest pig. They don't like it anymore and they don't cease to point out the piggish behavior... ON OUR SIDE... while doing crud like tearing up an SOTU speech, having relatives take graft, abusing the FISA process etc.
I'm pro-America. We're the best in the world. The most productive. The most inventive. The most welcoming (and the least racist, d----it). If we can only maintain and promote that with .... a pig. That's where I make my stand.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
sigdoc 2/7/2020 10:42:13 AM (No. 310818)
Jack, I almost lost a keyboard to coffee when I read, "After trying everything else, we got us the biggest pig, the smartest pig, the strongest pig."
Not so fun anymore, is it, Ds?
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The "two party system" has no Constitutional basis. Over time it has occasionally realigned, such as the emergence of the Republicans in 1860 largely from the Whig party. The Democrats had their last realignment in 1930/32 in the dawn of the Great Depression. Since then, things have rocked on with minor shading differences, at least until the late 1960's when the white "traditional" South left the Democrats over Civil Rights and eventually made common cause with Republicans. At the same time came a defection of much of the working class in reaction to the Vietnam War protests.
What perpetuates the two party system is the public financing framework and balot access. Starting a successor party is essentially a futile gesture. These two parties are now pretty much locked into the American political landscape. The only way to change them is to take one over. The Radicals are in the process of doing that in the Democrat party. The question is whether the "moderate libs" who vote Dem habitually will ever vote Republican. And if they do, what will happen to the "conservative" Republican party...
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