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Claremont nativity scene depicts Jesus, Mary
and Joseph as refugees separated in cages

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Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk, 12/8/2019 7:57:04 PM

A Methodist church in Claremont unveiled a nativity scene Saturday night depicting Jesus, Mary and Joseph as refugees in cages, likening one of the most well-known images of the Christmas season to photos that have become synonymous with criticism of the Trump administration’s border separation policies. The display, which has stoked debate on the Facebook page of the church’s lead pastor, shows classic nativity figurines of Joseph and Mary in cages on either side of a cage containing the manger of Jesus. “We see this as, in some ways, the Holy Family standing in for the nameless families,” said the Rev. Karen Clark Ristine, the lead pastor at Claremont United Methodist Church.


This is both blasphemous and offensive to this Catholic.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: JediJerry 12/8/2019 8:01:40 PM (No. 256648)
Totally disgusting, blasphemous and hateful. Do they think this is funny or making a statement? Satan put them up to it. Enjoy hell because that’s where youare going.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: MissNan 12/8/2019 8:06:28 PM (No. 256651)
I used to go to this church as a child. Dear God how far it has fallen.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: curious1 12/8/2019 8:13:28 PM (No. 256655)
Maybe someone local could slip up on them and attach a placard to each one titled: Obola's cages 2008-2016.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 12/8/2019 8:20:58 PM (No. 256657)
So help me, people like the reverend have their heads where the sun don’t shine. What in Heaven’s name are they thinking? Is this being “woke”? This has to stop...the adults have to have he courage to start speaking up instead of cowering in silence!
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Italiano 12/8/2019 8:34:49 PM (No. 256660)
Considering the garbage that those leftist "churches" believe and preach, be thankful that it wasn't Cory Booker, Ilhan Omar and Greta Thunberg.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Northcross 12/8/2019 8:41:21 PM (No. 256661)
This is one of those "Methodist" churches that have declared themselves superior to the Divine Wisdom of the ages, as evidenced by the unbiblical practice of women in leadership.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Tennman 12/8/2019 8:47:13 PM (No. 256663)
Except those are Obama's cages. But then good leftists don't let petty things like "facts" bother their agenda.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: JackBurton 12/8/2019 8:52:17 PM (No. 256667)
Joseph was going back to his home town. He was, as was the entire area around Israel, a subject of Rome following orders. There would be no cages. But, maybe you'd have to READ the Bible to know that.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Calico Al 12/8/2019 9:17:39 PM (No. 256674)
They are doing this to get in the minds of the Christians. They are probably sitting around and waiting to see how many hits they get on Facebook and laughing because no one can physically face them.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Turninggrey 12/8/2019 9:24:23 PM (No. 256676)
Agree with #8. Joseph and Mary were not jumping borders for free stuff.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: hershey 12/8/2019 9:32:55 PM (No. 256679)
What do you expect from Commifornia, respect for religion...that state is a cesspool and it extends into the state house...
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Reply 12 - Posted by: DVC 12/8/2019 9:51:27 PM (No. 256689)
California is such a pit of vipers.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Omen55 12/8/2019 9:53:27 PM (No. 256691)
By order of the Emperor of Rome you will go to these cities to register for the census. Ave Caesar!
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Reply 14 - Posted by: dovestar 12/8/2019 10:04:37 PM (No. 256699)
1) The Holy Family were not homeless or refugees, they were in Joseph's hometown for the census and couldn't find a hotel room. 2) Never listen to a female Reverend. 3) I've started to realize how funny it is that non Catholics suddenly like statues during Christmastime. 4) If you've never done so, attend a Latin Mass this Advent season.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: marlon 12/8/2019 10:07:18 PM (No. 256700)
So here's the question...Is the country turning away from religion, or is religion turning away from the country
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Aud 12/8/2019 10:23:32 PM (No. 256704)
What is Rev. Karen’s position on abortion?
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Trigger2 12/8/2019 10:29:53 PM (No. 256712)
Must be they foresee that settlement gold mine money pot running out of taxpayer money.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Rumblehog 12/8/2019 10:32:17 PM (No. 256714)
Jesus was a Jew because in Jewish law the mother determines race. There was no "birthright citizenship" involved. By the way sick Methodists, Jesus was born in MUCH more humble conditions than any illegal invader gets in our detention centers. Jesus was born outside, in a feeding trough, and had to be wrapped in funerary wrappings... no roof, no blanket, no mattress, no heater.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Avikingman 12/8/2019 10:33:18 PM (No. 256715)
How shallow. Do they really think cages could hold them?
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Reply 20 - Posted by: SALady 12/8/2019 10:43:26 PM (No. 256719)
As soon as I saw the headline, I knew it was a lie-beral woman minister behind this blasphemy!!!!! There is a reason that St. Paul said in no uncertain terms that women should never be in positions of authority in the church!!!
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Reply 21 - Posted by: FamilyGuy 12/8/2019 11:01:17 PM (No. 256722)
A conservative in the area should contact the church and be outraged at this attack against former president Obama's policies.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: BarryNo 12/8/2019 11:32:40 PM (No. 256733)
When Herod decided to kill all male infants in Bethlahem, the Holy Family fled to Egypt. In a sense, they were refugees. However, they did not claim Egypt owed them a 'living wage' or health care. Joseph, as the man of the house paid their way with his skills and hard labor. They had no rights or citizenship due to any of Jesus' siblings being born while they were there; they were offered no special status. This attempt to equate modern refugees with the family of Jesus is quite pitiful.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Smart11344 12/9/2019 12:28:39 AM (No. 256738)
The Methodist's have always been left of center. Episcopalians take second place. It is tragic that Christianity is self destruction right before Christmas. God help us.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 12/9/2019 2:13:13 AM (No. 256751)
G-d save US all. If only the Methodist and US government cared as much about taxpaying American citizens; especially the forgotten elderly.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: HammerDax56 12/9/2019 5:49:50 AM (No. 256775)
Just one more reason I left the Methodist church. It’s sad that their members unknowingly continue to support the UMC and are oblivious to their radical agenda. Their Board of Church and Society is mingled with the World Council of Churches. Pure unmitigated Marxism. My late parents would be heartbroken.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: MNluxiegal 12/9/2019 6:40:10 AM (No. 256792)
Ignorant people - or - deliberately spreading a false impression of the Nativity of Jesus Christ. Joseph and Mary were not refugees when they were in Bethlehem. They were refugees for some time when they were in Egypt - but not in Bethlehem. Was this stupid pastor offended by Obama's administration which set up the policy of separating the children from the adult during the evaluation of relationships at the border?
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Reply 27 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 12/9/2019 6:58:49 AM (No. 256802)
Prancing pagans.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Southron 12/9/2019 7:41:50 AM (No. 256831)
It's okay. Our Lord knows all about it. He knew about all of this horror before it even began. Be at peace and look for the star that beckons the Child.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Cavallodifiero 12/9/2019 8:10:18 AM (No. 256846)
the cages should be guarded by a statue of Obama who, is the one who started putting refugees in cages, while trump she be an Angel that is there with the key to the cages to let them out.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: Rather Read 12/9/2019 8:24:42 AM (No. 256870)
It's that time again, when the birth of Jesus is used to score political points. Jesus was born in Bethlehem. Why? Not because Mary and Joseph were refugees, they were travelers who couldn't find an inn with a vacant room. After Jesus was born, they paid their taxes and went back home. Later when they were forced to flee to Egypt, that doesn't mean they were refugees either. Both Egypt and Israel were part of the Roman Empire. It would be like me moving from Tennessee to Alabama.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: udanja99 12/9/2019 8:27:23 AM (No. 256876)
To further what #10 said, the reason that Mary and Joseph were traveling was to be counted in the census in order to PAY TAXES!
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Reply 32 - Posted by: NorthernDog 12/9/2019 9:58:16 AM (No. 256966)
To me it looks like a depiction of the California taxpayer. You have to go way out of your way to pay the taxes, and the government views you as a caged slave.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX 12/10/2019 4:53:56 PM (No. 258220)
Evangelical religions have the right idea in not elevating women to pastoral roles. Every Leftist boneheaded decision made by various liberal denominations seems spearheaded by (frequently lesbian) women clergy.
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