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Posted By: MissMolly, 6/23/2019 5:07:08 AM

YouTube, Facebook, and Amazon have recently come under withering criticism from journalists and lawmakers for their role in amplifying unfounded and occasionally dangerous conspiracy theories, including the false but persistent belief that vaccines cause autism. The uproar caused Facebook to pledge to make it harder to find vaccine conspiracies on its platform, and Amazon has removed misleading documentaries from its video streaming service. But as false beliefs continue to fuel an unprecedented outbreak of measles, it's not just social media platforms that bear responsibility for keeping the conspiracy alive. HuffPost, the left-leaning internet news site owned by Verizon, currently positions itself squarely against vaccine conspiracy theories.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: millstream 6/23/2019 8:40:49 AM (No. 104655)
vaccines are not the miracle many hope for They artificially manipulate the immune system sometimes producing lethal results, sometimes chronic autoimmune illnesses, sometimes temporary immunity. Due to the potentially harmful results many people do not want to be for ed to take those risks. If you accept the risks then go ahead but dont make others to comply with your decisiin
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Reply 2 - Posted by: jacksin5 6/23/2019 9:10:07 AM (No. 104686)
Every school in the country is a petri dish for contagious disease. Eliminate vaccines, and watch the children die. Are there side effects for a minority of those inoculated? Probably, but reintroducing Polio, Diptheria, Whooping Cough,Measles, etc. into our nation's children in epidemic proportions is not the answer.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: hammondb3 6/23/2019 9:14:40 AM (No. 104688)
Vaccines have a lot in common with Labor Unions. They were born out of a significant need but when it was discovered that there was big money in it... the unions and the pharmaceutical industries started looking for more and more ways to cash in. And with politicians outstretched hands everywhere, much of that money went into a feedback loop. Follow the money. And, btw, SOMETHING is throwing our immune systems into collective overdrive as autoimmune disorders are becoming more and more prevalent - and with it, the cash cow for Big Pharma just keeps getting bigger and bigger as some of the most expensive and most popular drugs are the biologics - for autoimmune diseases.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: DVC 6/23/2019 9:32:59 AM (No. 104701)
Gotta blame someone for every unusual thing that happens. And the left loves to have a conspiracy theory where the 'big bad industry' is out to get you. I feel sorry for the ones like at least one poster here who have such twisted, counterfactual views of this topic, and are SO convinced that they have stumbled onto this huge conspiracy. Sad.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: DVC 6/23/2019 9:38:03 AM (No. 104704)
"autoimmune disorders becoming more and more prevalent".....yeah, now that there is a name for it instead of.."He was always a sickly child and died before he was 30", which was very common - well, when they didn't die in their first year, or before they were 5. People are really unhinged on this stuff. It is sad to see how easily people are propagandized and confused, and how desperately they cling to their fantasies. Simple hard truths. Vaccines are safe and effective for 99.9999% of the people. And a small percentage of people will just die from something weird, and frequently, even our relatively advanced medical science cannot understand it. Insisting on blaming random, unrelated health problems on vaccines is no different than throwing virgins into the volcanoes to stop eruptions.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: hammondb3 6/23/2019 10:07:28 AM (No. 104733)
#5, So, you are saying that the government DOES have the right to force a parent to vaccinate their child despite the parent's objections? And, you are telling me that BIG PHARMA has somehow been immunized against the corrupting influence of BIG MONEY? No vaccine technology builds up sufficient resistance to the influence of dollars. As I said, follow the money. I did not say that vaccines are evil. I just said that the MONEY involved pretty much guarantees that the vaccination industry no longer as public health as their #1 concern.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: hammondb3 6/23/2019 10:19:33 AM (No. 104741)
BTW, Lupus cases have increased about 50% over the last 20 years for women... From 108 cases per 100K to 168 per 100K. Pretty sure that 20 years ago those other 60 cases were not just called 'sickly'.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: cjjeepercreeper 6/23/2019 10:55:42 AM (No. 104774)
Timely article for me. Just yesterday evening before dinner my wife was talking with our daughter in law about this. She is one of the believers of the immunizations are bad tripe, a good friend of hers has a 4 year old that has had no vaccinations at all, they are believers in the immunizations cause autism because of heavy metal poisoning. They are going to be starting to have kids soon, my wife is already talking about at least working on our son about the subject. Not immunizing kids is dangerous tomfoolery. Diseases that went extinct are back full force.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: DVC 6/23/2019 11:22:12 AM (No. 104801)
#7, " pretty sure..." Well there you go, proof positive of a massive conspiracy. Hogwash.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: hammondb3 6/23/2019 11:36:29 AM (No. 104807)
8, Diseases back full force? Really? There have been 1044 cases of measles as of the middle of June this year. The CDC estimates that in the 1960's, three to four MILLION people got measles annually and by the time one was 15, almost everyone had contracted the measles in their lifetime. Measles will be back in 'full force' when we get see 3 to 4 million cases annually. That would mean seeing about 1.7 million cases by mid June, not a tad over 1000. It is also estimate that measles in the 1960's was responsible for about 400-500 deaths per year. Last year, medical errors accounted for 9.5% of all deaths in the U.S. That is 251,454 last year. Just to put this all into perspective. I knew no person who died from measles when I was a kid. However, I almost died from a tetanus vaccine when I was 22. I went into anaphylactic shock and had to pull my car over to the side of the road as I was nearly passing out in a frigid cold sweat in the middle of August. I recovered about about 15 minutes but a nurse friend told me later I could have very easily died. One other thing for the sake of argumentation... and perhaps this is part of the reason we are seeing so many more autoimmune issues today... Prior to mass vaccinations, survival of the fittest was in full force. Those with strong immune systems that were working properly would survive the disease and pass the trait of a strong natural defense to offspring. Now that we are treating those with weak immune systems, or poorly 'tuned' ones, we are having more people with less than optimal immune systems survive diseases, but acquired traits (immunization) are not genetically propagated. Se we have a gene pool in which survival of the fittest is no longer working as it was 100 years ago.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: LadyHen 6/23/2019 12:43:54 PM (No. 104859)
We had "survival of the fittest" for a long time. The flu killed millions. After we developed proper sanitation, every year Polio crippled and/or killed thousands. If that is what you think is virtuous, lets close down all the hospitals and scary BIG PHARMA too and let nature take its course. The arrogant assumption is of course you and yours will be safe because you are virtuous and strong and on the side of the angels. Good luck with that. My great grandmothers put many babies in the church yard ground. They would have probably given their lives to have what we have now, a nation where most babies born see their 7th birthday. I'll stick with vaccines and modern medicine.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 6/23/2019 1:20:11 PM (No. 104876)
A friend of mine played a YouTube clip that had a medical doctor commenting on the 2019 measles outbreak. The doctor poked a lot of holes in what is being said. Of all the measles cases being reported in 2019, over 200 of them had already been immunized for measles and it did not work. There is a move to get people re-vaccinated for measles if you had your shot before a certain year. How many people have died from measles? In 2019, zero. Same with 2018. There was one fatality in 2017. There have been a total of 11 fatalities since 2000. More people have choked to death on toothpicks than died from measles. How many people have been hospitalized after having the vaccinations? Ten of thousands. Some long term. There have also been over 460 fatalities. The doctor says he got these numbers from the CDC website. What to make of all of this? I don't know since I have not bothered to verify any of this this. I suspect its true however. If the vaccinations are this problematic, where are the lawsuits? There is a lot of information out there both pro and con. If I had a newborn, would I have them vaccinated? Yes. I would also be praying a lot. I would also try to get the vaccinations spaced out more. Is it true a newborn's immune system is still developing? If so, that is definitely grounds to hold off. A child has to be vaccinated to be admitted to school, btw.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: hammondb3 6/23/2019 1:44:38 PM (No. 104893)
My first son was born in 1994. He was 3.5 months premature (born just a couple of days after 25 weeks in utero). He weighed 1 pound, 14 ounces at birth, was on a ventilator for a solid 2 months then moved over into what they called 'intermediate care'. When he was 3 months old he weighed about 3.5 pounds. His mom and I were a bit older than most first-time parents and were already not 100% trusting of all doctors due to some needless tests that they put my son through just to get data. These tests subjected him to unnecessary stress. So, at three months we arrive at the hospital for our first of two daily visits and learn that he was given his first round of vaccines. Despite his weight being about 1/4th the weight of an average three month old baby... they administered the standard dose and made no adjustment for weight. A few days later I saw him having some bilateral seizures where his arms would twitch about twice per second. I mentioned this to the nurse and she ignored me and told me all was well. As I recall, he was also sweaty and had a fever. This passed after a few days. I kept this memory but did not really think much about it until about 2 years later... When he was diagnosed with autism. No way to prove this, obviously. And the stress of being premature alone might be the cause... or maybe this was in the cards regardless. But I do remember that his first set of vaccinations did not go well and I was shocked that no adjustment was made for body weight when administered. Feel free to now call me someone living in the dark ages.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: DVC 6/23/2019 2:39:30 PM (No. 104926)
My condolences for your son's health problems, sincerely. But you have also stated that you were older than usual and the child was very premature, and other issues. Those are serious health issues. I think it is a bit defensive to shift the blame over to the vaccinations. Would it have been better to do them differently on a premature infant? I don't know the answer, maybe so, maybe the nurse or doc made an error in that case. But premature infants do have a lot of developmental problems. It does not seem to be a straight line from the vaccinations to the problems. And I do not see an indicator that the broad brush of vaccinations to keep most people safer from pandemics is not a totally valid medical approach. This seems to be the antivaxxer idea, that all vaccinations are bad, and should be avoided. Best wishes that things can and will work out as well as they might in the future for your son.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: StormCnter 6/23/2019 3:32:06 PM (No. 104953)
Do people die of measles? Rarely. Do people have vision impairment from measles? Many do. We used to have wa was called three-day-measles. Pregnant women knew that getting it within the first trimester seriously impacted the brain development of the fetus. Would any parent seriously risk a child being exposed to polio? There are preventatives. What about smallpox? There is an immunization. Whooping cough? We got so comfortable about whooping cough being eradicated that medical schools no longer taught students how to identify it. My twin nephews almost died from whooping cough. Now, the inoculation is back and that's a very good thing. Parents have to be careful, but parents also have to be smart. Get your kids vaccinated. You may save their lives.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Catherine 6/23/2019 6:56:51 PM (No. 105063)
So I guess if I said I saw the significant change in my niece at age one, after having the MMR, I'm just a stupid person who is too ignorant to know what she saw, right? A bright, lively baby right on part with her age suddenly goes into seizures and after countless medical efforts to help her, ended up autistic. There are thousands of children this has happened to but I guess all of the adults who have witnessed it aren't as smart as those who insist it never happens. And then there are children like mine who had measles shots and still got them, twice. I think polio, whooping cough, tetanus, the older shots, are okay. It's the 60+ new ones that are over the top.
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