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Five things that will happen if House
Dems move to impeach Trump

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Posted By: Pluperfect, 6/1/2019 3:57:23 AM

President Trump and his defenders can successfully attack former Special Counsel Robert Mueller or congressional Democrats on impeachment – but not both. The independent voters who will decide the 2020 election don’t have time for multiple sets of arguments. Moreover, independent voters have limited interest in all things political. So the president and his advocates should keep it simple and focus on Congress, not Mueller, who resigned Wednesday. Mueller didn’t say anything when he spoke to journalists Wednesday that hadn’t already appeared in his report. That was the point of his news conference.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 6/1/2019 5:41:52 AM (No. 88198)
Karl, save your advice for Mitt.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab 6/1/2019 6:10:59 AM (No. 88214)
I'm glad to see Rove maintaining his tradition about being wrong about everything, that he has said or written over the last 10 years or so.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Rinktum 6/1/2019 6:19:22 AM (No. 88222)
Thank you, #1. Karl Rove is a guy who you’d like to buy for what he’s worth and sell for what he thinks he’s worth.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: spacer 6/1/2019 6:19:46 AM (No. 88223)
Six things Karl, maybe four, but not five. Thanks for the advice though.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: F15 Gork 6/1/2019 6:25:22 AM (No. 88228)
Karl, the door is over there......
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Reply 6 - Posted by: philsner 6/1/2019 6:36:13 AM (No. 88238)
When has Rove been right about anything? Take your whiteboard and go away.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: mizzmac 6/1/2019 6:40:34 AM (No. 88241)
I'm not a Karl Rove apologist, but I don't believe any of his assertions here are wrong. Maybe read it first?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 6/1/2019 6:47:24 AM (No. 88244)
One other significant thing, the dems mark themselves as a party out of control. Their "leadership" is saying "we are not moving forward with impeachment yet". That keeps the hope alive but doesn't charge down a dead end path that has limited popular support. Yet, the firebrands in the party are going to charge ahead. That means the dems as a whole are a "hot mess" and not a good bet for dealing with important issues. They had a window to get something done with infrastructure. They blew it. The message to the voters is that a mixed government is NOT going to get anything done, mostly because dems are unfocused. So either an all dem government who had that under BO and accomplished very little. Or an all Republican government, under which Trump has turned the Country around. "Unintentionally (because he’s a law enforcement professional and not political), Mueller’s actions again disappointed" This is a distortion. From the beginning, Mueller's actions have been political because THERE WAS NO CRIME and Mueller knew it. Mueller could have quickly said, "There was no collusion" and closed up shop. Mueller's INTENT was to get Trump, therefore he had to build a pseudo case of "obstruction". He felt if they baited Trump enough, he would slip into enough obstruction to get him impeached. But Trump outlasted Mueller and put Barr into place as AG. Barr quickly put an end to Mueller's baiting games. The "disappointment" is that Mueller's political games failed because Barr forced the correct Law Enforcement outcome.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: franq 6/1/2019 7:04:14 AM (No. 88255)
It's amazing that Karl Rove, err, make that "The Architect" still gets any airplay. As noted above - when has he ever been right about anything?
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 6/1/2019 7:21:12 AM (No. 88263)
Karl, your five points are hardly clever and are quite obvious. Do us all a favor and bury yourself in a push to stop Mittens from running for reelection in Utah.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: red1066 6/1/2019 7:38:49 AM (No. 88269)
Who are these independent voters? I suspect that for the most part they're people who don't pay much attention to anything that doesn't entertain them. This means they might not even know an election is taking place much less anything political.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: bpl40 6/1/2019 7:51:09 AM (No. 88278)
Pursuing impeachment when there is no underlying crime might have worked against a McCain, Romney or Jeb. But the 'Rats are dealing with something entirely different here. If a man is innocent and is being framed by authorities, his reaction would be fear if he is Russian, resignation if he is Chinese. An American would be furious and outraged. This is the quality Trump will fully exploit. And impeachment will simply play into his hands and will force the Democrat opponents to take the side of the persecutors. Landslide!
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Hugh Akston 6/1/2019 8:38:34 AM (No. 88314)
The wild card is that there may be just enough Rep senators to vote with the Dems if they pass impeachment out of the House even though there is no 'there' there. We know who the usual suspects are.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: America Rising 2020 6/1/2019 8:45:29 AM (No. 88323)
Karl have another doughnut...the GTF away
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Reply 15 - Posted by: winnie1 6/1/2019 9:44:56 AM (No. 88392)
1 revolution 2 revolution 3 revolution 4 revolution 5 revolution
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Reply 16 - Posted by: beca 6/1/2019 10:31:40 AM (No. 88440)
Karl I used to follow you and believe you. Not anymore... I've moved on...
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Chuzzles 6/1/2019 10:54:03 AM (No. 88462)
Where does he think all the disaffected republican voters went after the stonewalling of the Uniparty in congress? Not only is he a bloated boob, he is a politically out of touch with voters idiot.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: DVC 6/1/2019 11:36:54 AM (No. 88513)
I stopped pay the slightest attention to Rove long ago. Despicable man, and rarely right on things.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: voxpopuli 6/1/2019 11:54:46 AM (No. 88537)
his first three sentences are lies.. don't have to read further.. AMERICAN voters will be voting for Trump overwhelmingly.. maybe some left wing NYC activists care about sentences 2 and 3..
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Reply 20 - Posted by: iamshazzam 6/1/2019 11:55:54 AM (No. 88539)
Karl Rove - George Will - total deep state cronies! They sing their song to demoncRats only. We real conservatives know to turn a deaf ear to both of them.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: TXLakeRat 6/1/2019 2:17:05 PM (No. 88621)
There was a day when Ldotters were pretty good about policing posters who had not read the article. Apparently no more. There is nothing to indicate that any of the 1st 6 posters read before posting. If they had, I doubt they would have posted what they did, if anything at all. As to the content, the only one I'd quibble with is #4; any House resolution to impeach will never reach the Senate, IMO. The President will challenge the resolution all the way to the Supreme court as being unconstitutional and win unanimously. There is no underlying " Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors" as required by the Constitution.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: LonestarM3 6/1/2019 5:41:36 PM (No. 88745)
The hard truth we need to face is that the comment Ben Franklin is said to have made when asked, "What kind of government have you given us" is still true today.... "A Republic if you can keep it." Given the situation today (which would have appalled old Ben) if the American public is so utterly dumbed down by a century of progressive tripe that they will actually elect ANY of the current crop of what passes for Democrats --- we deserve to lose the country.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Lawsy0 6/1/2019 6:11:02 PM (No. 88758)
I totally agree with Rove about Nadler, Schiff and Waters! Rove could also be overhearing prayers of Pelosi, Biden and Sanders saying ''There but for God go I.''
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