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Cubs Investigating Fan´s ´Offensive´ Hand Gesture

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Posted By: AltaD, 5/8/2019 2:09:22 PM

The Chicago Cubs say they are investigating a fan using what appeared to be an offensive hand gesture associated with racism behind a black television reporter who was on the air. The reporter was Doug Glanville, a former major league outfielder who played three seasons for the Cubs.(Snip) In a radio interview Wednesday morning on 670 the Score, the Cubs´ flagship radio station, Kenney said that it is "more likely than not" that the fan was using the gesture in an offensive way, and that the team will be "taking action as a result."


I saw a fuzzy screen capture of the "offensive" gesture on Twitter, it´s the "okay" gesture. My guess is the majority of viewers didn´t notice it and the few who did wouldn´t know it´s "racist".

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Reply 1 - Posted by: droopydog 5/8/2019 2:14:08 PM (No. 81946)
A baseball fan making an offensive gesture? My goodness, perhaps a special prosecutor should be appointed.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Iconoclast 5/8/2019 2:17:55 PM (No. 81945)
In the image I saw, the fingers are pointed down - the "OK" gesture the fingers point up.

No idea what this means, if anything.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: M2 5/8/2019 2:18:49 PM (No. 81939)
Are hand gestures protected under the First Amendment?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: msjena 5/8/2019 2:23:42 PM (No. 81953)
#3, yes, but the Cubs can still ban him.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Newtsche 5/8/2019 2:24:01 PM (No. 81940)
Isn´t focusing on the hand gesture splitting hairs when displaying white skin is offensive in and of itself?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: AltaD 5/8/2019 2:27:02 PM (No. 81947)
#2 Yes, that´s the photo I saw but I didn´t realize up vs. down has different meanings.

Until this story I didn´t know that gesture had any meaning other than okay. I wonder how many people who saw it live knew it supposedly has some alternate meaning.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Highlander 5/8/2019 2:37:44 PM (No. 81928)
Just play ball!
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Reply 8 - Posted by: LtE126 5/8/2019 2:48:24 PM (No. 81942)
Don’t you have teenagers? Do you guys not know what the “ball gazer” game is?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Mushroom 5/8/2019 2:49:39 PM (No. 81957)
It´s not like there is anything to see in Baseball, the eternally offended might as well look for anything to keep riled up.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: hershey 5/8/2019 2:59:05 PM (No. 81941)
Gee, from the headline I thought he was flipping him the bird...
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Reply 11 - Posted by: earlybird 5/8/2019 3:19:35 PM (No. 81955)
The OK sign is used by so many, has been used for so long. Suddenly it has been coopted as another racial dog whistle, another scab to pick.

Put this commenter in a little black-walled soundproof booth so that anyone who might be behind him will skip it.. Or skip him?

/s/Tired of PCness
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Reply 12 - Posted by: earlybird 5/8/2019 3:21:41 PM (No. 81958)
Glanville supports the inquiry. He should have said “skip it”...
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Reply 13 - Posted by: JunkYardDog 5/8/2019 3:24:29 PM (No. 81952)
Growing up in NY back in the 70´s, my friends and I would play CAUGHT YOUR EYE. You´d make the OK sign with your hand with the fingers pointed down and if you got your friend to look, you´d say CAUGHT YOUR EYE! It was a stupid gane that didn´t mean anything, it was just for laughs. This guy in the Cubs jersey flashing the sign behind the reporter was taking advantage of a situation where he caught everyone´s eye who was watching. It´s not a racist sign-but to call it racist, to already try to stir up trouble, this guy Crane Kenney is a DOLT. And I say well-played to the guy in the stands-you caught everyone´s eye!
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Reply 14 - Posted by: jj1319 5/8/2019 3:28:00 PM (No. 81949)
Where I come from, that gesture meant "Thursday."

Fifty bucks to the first person who gets the origin.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: earlybird 5/8/2019 3:31:08 PM (No. 81956)
BTW, the “ultimate authority” linked in the article is the discredited Southern Poverty Law Center.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: earlybird 5/8/2019 3:33:02 PM (No. 81935)
(hit submit too soon)
The screen shot I saw elsewhere showed a hand that was clearly photoshopped. Not the “fuzzy” image mentioned up the thread.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: tisHimself 5/8/2019 3:38:10 PM (No. 81944)
Have him sit at Comiskey for a home stand as part of his cultural re-education.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 5/8/2019 3:50:09 PM (No. 81943)
I have my own hand gesture for anyone who thinks he/she sees something offensive here.

That word "racism" has been used too many times to cudgel conservatives.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: skacmar 5/8/2019 3:54:46 PM (No. 81927)
The professionally aggrieved need to understand that sometimes a hand is just a hand. Maybe the person was not making any hand gesture at all, he was just holding his hand that way. Of course, the professionally aggrieved will say that subconsciously the person was being racist.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Clinger 5/8/2019 3:59:58 PM (No. 81931)
I only learned of that association due to the Kavanaugh hearing. And I still don´t accept that as a common interpretation of the old Kinderhook.

Before we set the fire to the bundle of dry branches piled up around his feet let´s be just a little curious.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: saguni 5/8/2019 4:03:21 PM (No. 81951)
If you hold your left hand in front of your face, then make the "OK" sign, when you look at...with a lot of imagination...your three fingers make a "W" and the circle of your thumb and forefinger, going down your wrist makes a "P"!

There you have it...White Power!!

I know, I didn´t believe it at first, either.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: jfodoch 5/8/2019 4:09:41 PM (No. 81926)
We used to make the inverted OK sign & hold it below our waist. If someone saw it, we would holler "gotcha!", then punch him on the shoulder. Pure evil, I tell you!
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Tennman 5/8/2019 4:20:45 PM (No. 81929)
As opposed to the person right behind him scratching his privates????

Malcolm in the Middle had an episode on this. Was a version of slug-bug.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: cor-vet 5/8/2019 4:23:21 PM (No. 81934)
The 1st thing an organization that excludes someone, especially for some aggrieved slight, says is, "We´re an inclusive organization, and we won´t stand for this!"
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Reply 25 - Posted by: beancounter 5/8/2019 4:38:48 PM (No. 81948)
Remind me to wear my Pepe the Frog costume next time I go to Wrigley Field.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Delilah 5/8/2019 5:00:50 PM (No. 81937)
I guess it will be best to stay away from ball games for fear of offending some poor soul. There goes another sport.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Corndoggies 5/8/2019 5:00:55 PM (No. 81933)
It doesn’t matter if the fingers are pointed up or down. Neither one means, or ever has meant, white power. There’s pics of AOC and Colin pumpernickel making the same hand gesture.

I saw this elsewhere first and figured it was from the onion. Utter lunacy.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: fayebeck 5/8/2019 6:04:19 PM (No. 81925)
First and third base coaches make obscene gestures all the time. It´s called signals. And then when the played gets the signal he scratches his ass.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Strike3 5/8/2019 6:33:55 PM (No. 81936)
It means OK in America, it´s the same as flipping the bird in Puerto Rico. They will have to determine the race of the fan to decide whether it´s meant to be offensive.

Now they are sensitive to sign language? Next thing to be banned will be white cars and white-tipped canes for the blind.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: bobn.t 5/8/2019 6:53:31 PM (No. 81954)
To blacks and the media, everything is racist. Being white is racist.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: MainelySane 5/8/2019 8:10:39 PM (No. 81938)
Please, someone make a chart of the offensive hand signals.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Newtsche 5/8/2019 11:17:21 PM (No. 81950)
In high school, if you made that gesture below your waist and someone looked at it, you got to punch them in the shoulder. If they "ringed" it -- stuck their finger in the ring -- they got to punch your shoulder ten times. If you captured that finger, you got to deliver the ten punches. Everyone understood the rules.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: DVC 5/8/2019 11:22:24 PM (No. 81930)
I can give them an unambiguous hand gesture, to tell them what I think of them.

It´s easy to learn, only uses one finger.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: akudaq 5/9/2019 2:29:07 AM (No. 81932)
Marlee Maitlin used it in "Children Of A Lesser God" movie to sign a**hole. Perhaps the fan was sharing his feelings about the team, the score, whatever.
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