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Of Course the Country Isn’t Full — and Trump Knows It

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Posted By: zoidberg, 4/9/2019 1:05:12 PM

In remarks over the weekend, President Trump expressed his opposition to immigration as a matter of practical impossibility. "What can we do?" he said. We can´t handle any more. Our country´s full. You can´t come in, I´m sorry." Later, seeming a touch less apologetic, he followed up on the sentiment with yet another of his oddly capitalized tweets. "Our Country is FULL!" Of course it isn´t. There are at least 145 countries more physically dense than the U.S. There is no sense in which America has reached its capacity to hold, support, or employ people. If anything, the opposite is

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Reply 1 - Posted by: trackman999 4/9/2019 1:09:04 PM (No. 28540)
What does the author want , standing room only?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: JackBurton 4/9/2019 1:09:06 PM (No. 28545)
Well, there´s a housing shortage in California.

Our schools are busting their budgets.

Welfare programs are maxxed out.\

Gee, in some ways for certain groups of people, it IS full.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Luandir 4/9/2019 1:09:59 PM (No. 28520)
No, not "full" in the sense that there is physically no room to put further arrivals. But there is a finite limit to the capacity of any society to support unproductive members. I fear we are getting close to that point.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: voxpopuli 4/9/2019 1:23:54 PM (No. 28544)
we´re full of FREELOADERS..
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Obviousity 4/9/2019 1:29:21 PM (No. 28525)
Peter Suderman, maybe if we could get the Federal Government to release its hold on western states lands we might be able to fit in a few more.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: BigTimeTrumper 4/9/2019 1:32:11 PM (No. 28527)
I´m Tired of being a "slave" to the do nothing welfare collecting generations of entitled...Moms dads and their spawn living with Grandpa and Grandma and none of them work or inner city public housing units full of single parents, their kids and their sperm donor...Could we just send em one for one for the border hoppers coming for WORK?
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Bur Oak 4/9/2019 1:33:15 PM (No. 28538)
We should setup a camp for them on the National Mall in Washington DC. There´s plenty of open space, grass, and water from the fountains. Additionally, they could eat in the Congressional dining room.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Tallgrass Palms 4/9/2019 1:41:41 PM (No. 28539)
Of course this article is ridiculous and the author probably doesn´t know it.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Donna M 4/9/2019 1:42:58 PM (No. 28521)
I´m tired of libertarians at Reason spewing their No Borders and Pot For All unreason.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: bad-hair 4/9/2019 1:45:44 PM (No. 28552)
We´re full. California maybe not. Let ´em set up camps on the Embarcadero. Build that wall on California´s Eastern border.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: bighambone 4/9/2019 1:46:15 PM (No. 28554)
It’s not that the country is full it is the immigration detention facilities are full of illegal alien economic migrants who are trying to game the system by making bogus asylum claims.

What Trump was talking about is the out of control borderline and the huge numbers of illegal aliens who are being encouraged and invited by leftist and liberal Democrat crafted politically based killer loopholes that the Democrats have placed in the asylum laws, to essentially neuter all effective immigration law enforcement efforts along the borderline for highly political purposes, in that the Democrats believe that the vast majority of poor, uneducated, and socialist minded illegal aliens, after being legalized and given US voting rights would become natural future Democrat socialist voters by the millions in the years ahead.

The fact that the Republicans passed legislation and Trump signed into law measures that would double the number of non-immigrant temporary worker visas that can be handed out this year to aliens entering the USA legally, shows that the Democrats are full of boloney when they claim that Trump hates immigrants. In reality Trump was born to an immigrant mother and during his lifetime has married two immigrant women. In reality Trump’s position on immigration is that all immigrants should be required to enter the USA in accordance with the immigration laws, and that mass uncontrolled illegal immigration should be stopped. That is just common sense.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: JustCause 4/9/2019 1:48:05 PM (No. 28523)
Peter, Peter, Peter... It must suck to be so dense...

There are none so blind as those who will not see.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: DVC 4/9/2019 1:54:23 PM (No. 28522)
More illiterate Mexicans, Guatemalans and Honduran drug gang killers than we need. Far more.

Block them from entry and start cleaning out this infection across the states.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: MindMadeUp 4/9/2019 2:09:23 PM (No. 28555)
Well, Peter, I´m sure your house isn´t really full, either. I´ll bet it has lots of rooms and only a few people living in it. Let´s settle a few Mexican illegals in all of those unused rooms.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Strike3 4/9/2019 2:10:58 PM (No. 28548)
So what´s your point, Petey? You want to fill us up with third world trash like the Euros have done to themselves? I worked a long time so I could build a house in the woods where I can´t see my neighbors. I prefer to keep it that way. If you have some room for a dozen or so Mexicans in your basement, by all means, send them an invitation.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Clinger 4/9/2019 2:13:40 PM (No. 28547)
Ok you jack waggon you asked for it so here it comes:

Our capacity to integrate more people most particularly those who break our laws and thus create an additional demand on resources is overwhelmed, overfull. Not the entire country, duh.

Now for the need for labor. We tax our responsible working people to the point where they have smaller families because in their silly outdated mindset, you don´t have more children than you can support. Then we take those taxes and hand money over to people who have no such value or constraint and give them an additional cash incentive to have more children. Who do you think is having the babies, the working makers or the non-working takers?

And we are mystified that we have a shortage of makers?

And what do you suppose happens to the much dreaded "income gap" when we flood the unskilled labor supply with people who come from countries that artificially suppress the value of labor? We expose our people to the economic effects of third world suppression.

Government is the problem, close the border reform welfare and let the free market mop up your mess.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: TXknitter 4/9/2019 2:20:33 PM (No. 28537)
South Texas is full of illegals and low income newcomers on all manner of welfare. Cochise county Arizona realtors will tell you the well-heeled retirees are now looking elsewhere for that expensive forever home. The influx of illegal Mexicans is just too much in those two areas — Fact.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: bad-hair 4/9/2019 2:24:10 PM (No. 28542)
I really need it to fill up to where I don´t speak the language. Ask them to explain in plain English why they seek asylum. What´s the Spanish word for asylum? Or Somalian for that matter. There comes a point where you just say NO.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Timber Queen 4/9/2019 2:34:51 PM (No. 28524)
Another excellent example of Selena Zito´s observation that the socialist enemies of Trump don´t take him seriously, but take him literally. We Trumpers don´t take him literally, but we take him very seriously.

The disconnect to reality continues unabated in the putrid air of The Swamp.

MAGA - Whether they want it or not.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: zoidberg 4/9/2019 2:39:02 PM (No. 28517)
Raise your hands if you actually read the article before commenting. No one? Okay, let me summarize. Of course we don´t want to let in people who will be a drain on society. We need to let in skilled labor. That is why Trump is increasing the number of H-2B visas.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Oldenoughtoknowbetter 4/9/2019 2:40:53 PM (No. 28535)
The Left is all for the New Green Deal yet wants to allow millions of people to come in and overwhelm the social welfare programs.

How do they propose growing enough food, shelter, transportation, clothing, heat, schools, medical care for everyone? Such hypocrites.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab 4/9/2019 2:41:08 PM (No. 28529)
Like the old Soviet joke about "There is no Pravda in Tass, and there is no Tass in Pravda", have you ever noticed that so many of these journals are named the opposite of what they churn out?

There is no reasoning in "Reason". "Scientific American" is neither truly scientific nor American. etc.

Much the same with Democrat legislation...:
They name it the opposite of what it actually does.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: DVC 4/9/2019 2:47:29 PM (No. 28551)
Libertarians are pretty much always ridiculous pains in the butt.

This is one of those times.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: red1066 4/9/2019 2:47:54 PM (No. 28534)
I agree. The country isn´t full. I would have used the term FED UP. We´re fed up with all the illegals with no skills, schooling, or immunizations coming into the country and immediately getting welfare, medical care, and free education which they never paid into. We have enough of that stuff going on with our own citizens without having to pay for non citizens and their kids.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: J F Ackerman 4/9/2019 2:53:29 PM (No. 28533)
Tool of the Chamber of Crony Capitalists blowing smoke.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 4/9/2019 3:14:17 PM (No. 28528)
We certainly do not need more people coming here that refuse to accept the American way of life. Seriously, to all the immigrants coming here, if you do not believe in America´s pursuit of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, DO NOT COME HERE!
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Reply 27 - Posted by: LadyChurchillUSA 4/9/2019 3:22:08 PM (No. 28532)
It is a matter of absorption, when the country, cities and towns become overrun all at once with children to educate and feed and with people who are not contributing the society as a whole suffers. We have nothing against immigration we allow people to come in every yr in an orderly fashion hoping they will contribute to the nation. The President was clearly making a point to take him literally is what the democrats like to do to try to twist the narrative. Those of us with a brain in our heads know exactly what he means.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: robertthomason 4/9/2019 3:42:20 PM (No. 28519)
I don´t know this author. Other than being an open borders guy, is he just thick as a brick?
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Mike22 4/9/2019 4:30:03 PM (No. 28531)
I read the article.

The author deliberately conflates legal and illegal immigration, a favorite tactic of the lying left and US Chamber of Commerce drones.

The H2B is for seasonal temporary workers, not "skilled" workers. That is a different visa. If he understands the difference then he his deliberately misleading his readers.

Both visas have been used to replace United States citizens with compliant foreigners since if the visa holders displease their employers they lose their jobs and are sent back to whatever feces filled depression they came from.

The law requires that this labor is only for true labor shortages. Companies have gamed the system. One example: at a time when the starting wage for a entry-level system administrator in silicon valley was heading above $100,000 per year and companies were snatching up anyone who knew the difference between a one and a zero, a fortune 50 company ran job ads in the San Jose Mercury News for a job with qualifications suited to a senior systems administrator at the magnificent wage of $40,000 per year. Then when no one replied the reputable, trusted Fortune 50 company reported a "shortage" and the urgent need for many, many more H1B visas. And were rewarded.

The author is clearly an acolyte of the US Chamber of Commerce.

I once subscribed to Reason. I would not use it for bird cage liner today.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: NYbob 4/9/2019 4:37:02 PM (No. 28536)
I read the article and Peter is a snot. He sure as heck doesn´t work construction. He has a nice, comfy life writing snarky articles about a man who is demonstrably better than him. Many of those ´essential´ workers he talks about are parasites. Working for under the table wages that take starter jobs from Americans. Farmers and others ´can´t afford to pay higher wages?´ Raise your prices or go out of business because the argument that you HAVE to hire illegals sounds an awful lot like slavery light to me.

Just another status quo, 1% whine. The country is under attack by the dregs of South of the border tyrant states, and Peter knows it.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Mushroom 4/9/2019 4:37:54 PM (No. 28550)
I could be wrong, but didn´t Congress establish the permitted immigration numbers? There is no reason to bypass the legal system if there are slots available. You say there isn´t? Well seems to me Congress says it´s full as well.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Chuzzles 4/9/2019 5:23:28 PM (No. 28549)
Not only is the Country full, too full of illegals, our patience with the Leftists/globalists is pretty much running on empty.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: snowoutlaw 4/9/2019 6:07:12 PM (No. 28518)
The prisons are over flowing.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: Foont 4/9/2019 6:58:38 PM (No. 28543)
Libertarian clown show on full display.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Lawsy0 4/9/2019 7:46:43 PM (No. 28556)
We don´t have enough Americans yet, but we have more than enough illegal invaders from all over the globe, not just South America. Only one more muslim will tip that cohort balance. If Islam is so great, stay where it started. Mecca is the place that isn´t half full. (But we all know it is about all the sons of Esau who want to kill all the sons and supporters of Jacob. God is not mocked.)
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Reply 36 - Posted by: stablemoney 4/9/2019 7:48:14 PM (No. 28546)
If Trump says the country is full, the country is full, and that is the end of it.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: tom7 4/9/2019 8:19:47 PM (No. 28530)
Ahh. Good to know - there´s room at the Suderman home. Couple dozen, anyway.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: chiller 4/9/2019 8:24:19 PM (No. 28553)
They´re trying to take him literally when he´s speaking seriously.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: saraguay 4/9/2019 11:42:04 PM (No. 28526)
Please, please send about 15,000 “migrants” to Santa Barbara.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: SALady 4/10/2019 2:10:06 AM (No. 28541)
Well, Peter, lets move about a dozen in to your house, and set up a nice shelter to serve a few hundred more in your neighborhood. I´m guessing your neighbors are mostly limousine lie-berals like you, and will heartily support his plan!!!

In fact we can probably put another 20-30 or so in tents in your yard, with a dozen or so port-a-potties for their use.

Lets just keep piling them in. You said there is plenty of room, and it needs to start with you since you have made this a very public proclamation!!!!
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