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Posted By: zoidberg, 10/29/2020 10:25:55 AM

As Americans head to the polls more divided than ever on social and economic issues, there’s one thing they’re actually coming together on: cannabis. Much has been made of whether a victory for Democratic nominee Joe Biden, or a potential liberal sweep in the Senate, could bolster marijuana companies. But initiatives on the ballot in a handful of conservative states show Republicans are increasingly on board with legalization as well — perhaps paving the way for an end to federal prohibition, no matter who controls Washington.


There is nothing in the Constitution that permits the federal government to outlaw cannabis. As the President has said, this is left to the states to decide.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: TLCary 10/29/2020 10:33:53 AM (No. 588448)
OP is right, but we have enough problems before adding chemically enhanced poor judgement to the mix. States should address. And remember folks, "Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Stoned".
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Reply 2 - Posted by: jalo1951 10/29/2020 10:45:51 AM (No. 588470)
I don't smoke, or drink alcohol or use illicit drugs. Alcoholism literally gallops through my dad's side of the family. (I don't like the taste of alcohol so not drinking wasn't a problem for me.) And lung cancer directly caused by smoking took three members of my family. (Smoking is nasty.) If anyone says anything about smoking or is caught smoking or admits they smoke some people go crazy and let you know why you should kick the habit. Basically you are scum. But these same people are champions of smoking pot. Can I not assume that sucking pot smoke into your lungs is not a problem but sucking tobacco smoke into your lungs is? Never could buy into that belief. But seriously we do not need anything thing else out there to make the smart stupid and the stupid stupider. Nothing dumber than a liquored up pot smoking democrat. But it is a state's issue.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: greggojo 10/29/2020 10:51:54 AM (No. 588483)
I will always oppose marijuana, having watched two school friends ruin their lives from using it. Do I know people who ruined their lives with alcohol? Yes. But in my experience, it was mj that had more permanent aftereffects and seemed to lead users to more serious drugs. btw, because marijuana is a Leftist cause célèbre, all honest research (e.g the increased number of drug related traffic accidents in areas where it has been legalized, the long term effects of using marijuana) have been shut down, shouted down, underfunded, never funded and ignored/repressed.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: DVC 10/29/2020 11:03:24 AM (No. 588509)
It saddens me to see this dangerous drug being accepted more and more after watching a number of young people flush their lives with it. And the concentration of THC in current dope is something like 10 to 20 times what it was in the 60s, making it that much more dangerous.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: curious1 10/29/2020 11:05:09 AM (No. 588512)
Too many people are unaware of the research showing the abnormalities in brain function and structure among chronic users that THC promotes. Or the documented DNA changes in sperm among users. And then there are the more obvious acute cognitive problems among even casual. intermittent users. Along with the smoke going into the lungs, just like tobacco, as was mentioned be a previous poster. That doesn't mean I support the bogus 'war on drugs' used by the deep state to expand government power in areas not granted it in the constitution, though.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 10/29/2020 11:12:53 AM (No. 588524)
State governments are greedy for the tax revenue, just like they were for gambling revenue 30 years ago. The early adopting states will make a lot of money from it, but as it gets legalized everywhere, the revenues will be spread over more states and it will be less of a windfall. Meanwhile, the costs of legalization pile up - more people driving impaired causing more accidents, more crime, more mental illness. It is a sad cycle that greedy politicians won't see.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DVC 10/29/2020 11:15:18 AM (No. 588528)
I had the same experience as #3, watched two college friends go from good students to flunked out failures, and a third (in the dorm room across the hall) follow them a year later down the mary jane rathole. In about 2008, I ran into the third guy at an air show in Lakeland, Florida. He was selling sunglasses in a sunglass vending booth, a trailer which was taken from event to event to sell them. He had been studying Engineering with me before he started on the grass, and dropped out. His father was a USN officer, too, so we had something in common in our early college careers. I hadn't seen him since 1970. I said, "Chuck, is that you?" after hearing his distinctive voice, then looking closely at his face. After a few seconds, I said my name and the Dorm section which we shared, and he smiled a bit thinly and said, "Yeah, that was a long time ago." I didn't push it, I think he was embarrassed at what he was doing. I said, "Well, good to see you." We shook hands and I left. I was sad for him. Life is all about choices. Don't choose drugs. Dope destroys lives. More dope, easier dope, legal dope, will destroy more lives.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: SkeezerMcGee 10/29/2020 11:22:21 AM (No. 588543)
Bottom line: It is not in any country's interest to support marijuana. it damages the brain.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 10/29/2020 11:22:23 AM (No. 588544)
No! No! No! Let's keep the 50-year-old "War On Drugs" going! It isn't old enough yet to collect Social Security! We need keep the drug cartels going strong. We need more No Knock warrants. We need more "massive drug hauls." We need to put more voluntary drug users in jail. We need more political corruption. We need more Prohibitionists posting nonsense on internet forums. How can we ever live again - - without a "War On Drugs"?
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Reply 10 - Posted by: coyote 10/29/2020 11:27:28 AM (No. 588552)
Cannabis is okay, if you don't mind schizophrenia.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: columba 10/29/2020 11:45:41 AM (No. 588579)
Dope is for dopes.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog 10/29/2020 11:53:33 AM (No. 588589)
#s 5 & 6 are correct. In the UK the brain warping takes the form of knife crime and Islamic terror (where the concentration of Muslims is sky high). In the US it seems that, without exception, the 'innocent black men shot by police' are heavy users of cannabis. In the case of a George Floyd, the addition of fetanyl made an already stoned person even more irrational.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Connor 10/29/2020 1:44:30 PM (No. 588744)
I will pass.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: JHHolliday 10/29/2020 2:01:22 PM (No. 588768)
Agree with #2. My younger brother smoked weed all his life. He is in his sixties now but has COPD and carries oxygen all the time. The tobacco Nazis go ballistic when they see someone smoking tobacco but sitting around stoned in a haze of pot is OK with them. Another brother, a professional actor, had a couple of friends on the West Coast that were daily users of pot. He said they were always going to start writing the next great screenplay or movie treatment. He went back to the coast some twenty years later and looked them up. He asked what they were doing these days and, you guessed it, they had never written a thing but they did tell him that they were going to start 'any day now'. In addition to the physical problems, that stuff saps all your drive and ambition.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: RedWhite&Blue2 10/29/2020 2:27:34 PM (No. 588795)
I’m not a knee-jerk reactionary so To each their own Who am I to judge?
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Rumblehog 10/29/2020 2:54:27 PM (No. 588818)
Marijuana is absolutely a "gateway drug," and it's been enhanced to be waaaay more potent than it ever was in the wild. The effects are evident and often found in Emergency Rooms of hospitals when the police bring in someone screaming, physically out of control and requiring multiple officers and restraints, and of course vomiting profusely. This is in effect 'THC Poisoning.' OP likes his pot, as evidenced by the constant pot propaganda posted, but pot is no friend to the human mind or body. If it weren't for the increased tax revenues, cities and states would not approve it. Even with "legalization" the pot black market thrives. Nothing was solved by legalizing it. Pot destroys the users' livelihood, life, and relationships with loved ones.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: JunkYardDog 10/29/2020 3:03:49 PM (No. 588824)
Hemp was a textile product used throughout the US long before the stigma of drugs was associated with it. Sailing ships used ropes made of hemp because they were very durable, very strong, could stretch without breaking, and lasted a long time. Clothing made from hemp fiber was almost indestructible. And you could make as much paper from a field of hemp that took 6 months to grow as a grove of trees that takes 10 years to mature. Smoking hemp to enjoy its intoxicating properties was a habit brought here by Indians from South America and blacks from the Caribbean. When we noticed that our kids were starting to enjoy it, laws prohibiting its use started popping up. The Marihuana Tax Act of 1937 did not criminalize the use of weed, but made it illegal for commercial growers to sell without first paying an excise tax. When the Philippine Islands fell in 1942 to the Japanese, the US Dept. of Agriculture and the US Army urged farmers to grow hemp to replace the supply now cut off by war. This law was eventually repealed in 1969. The laws passed to keep marijuana illegal were, in truth, a result of racism. The effects of using marijuana were not so much in question as who was using it, i.e. blacks and hispanics bringing the habit with them when they emigrated here. Having said all this, I do not advocate the use of weed one way or the other but I do respect everyone's right to choose for themselves. If alcohol is legal, then weed should be too.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: TexaTucky 10/29/2020 3:32:40 PM (No. 588850)
If it's a legitimate "choice" to invite the cancer-enhancing and fetus-terminating effects of stewing one's insides with synthetic hormones throughout one's reproductive years, it's equally legitimate to recognize another's choice to stew one's brain.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna 10/29/2020 3:40:23 PM (No. 588860)
Being opposed to prohibition does not make you an alcoholic or a druggie. It's a LIBERTY thing. But pass me the beer bong anyway. ....and on the road to legalization we will leave no turn un-stoned.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Yuban 10/29/2020 4:31:30 PM (No. 588905)
There are less and less Christian Conservatives on Lucianne. Sad to see. Having the freedom to be stupid is, well, uh, stupid. What the heck. In the new America anything goes and yup, we all see where it has gone. Ya all have a blessed day.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Catherine 10/29/2020 4:40:13 PM (No. 588907)
I'm an old lady and never even wanted to smoke pot. I know both my boys did it as teens but stopped at adulthood. However, one of my boys has had chronic migraines since the age of 11. He'd been tested by a hospital and was diagnosed with having three different types of migraine. Fast forward 30 years and 29 of those years were spent suffering when they happened because drs and hospitals think they can look at someone and determine if he's just trying to get drugs. After a serious injury at work, he had the added pain of messed up surgery and significant pain from that. Pot is legal here, medically, and I finally told him if he wants to get the card, get it. He did. It has been a life saver for him. I do support his right to use it because the medical community has failed him. What I'd like to see banned, but we've already been there done that, is alcohol. It's just as deadly to the human body, causes thousands of car accidents, and mean drunks abuse their family. So I won't get on my soap box and condemn people looking for relief from pain by smoking pot. I'll leave that to others.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: formerNYer 10/29/2020 5:14:52 PM (No. 588939)
We don't need to put people in jail for small amounts, if you want to tell a Vet with PSTD that he can't have cannabis that can relive their symptoms, you go ahead but I think it foolish. Tax it a regulate it like alcohol. End of story
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Reply 23 - Posted by: doctorfixit 10/29/2020 6:46:53 PM (No. 589018)
Potheads don't vote. They can 't find the ballot or the mailbox. Potheads don't riot or loot. Too paranoid. They mostly zone out & hang out. Meth heads are the ones to watch out for. Meth heads are extremely erratic, violent, and think they are invulnerable. My guess is that huge numbers of #BLMs and #Antifas are crack or meth heads.
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