First British victim of Ethiopian Airlines flight named as UN worker, 36, whose father warned her not to catch doomed flight as jet´s erratic last seconds are revealed after it crashed killing 157
Daily Mail (UK),
by
Zoie O´brien
&
Tim Stickings
Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx,
3/10/2019 6:01:37 PM
A 36-year-old animal welfare campaigner has been named as one of the seven Britons who died in the Ethiopian Airlines crash which killed 149 passengers and eight crew on Sunday morning. The Boeing 737 Max 8 jet crashed within minutes of its take-off from Addis Ababa, losing and gaining speed dramatically in its final seconds after setting off for Nairobi. British victim Joanna Toole, from Exmouth, Devon, was among at least 12 passengers who were travelling to a UN environment meeting in the Kenyan capital.(Snip) Within the first few minutes after take-off the plane´s vertical speed, the rate of climb
Reply 1 - Posted by:
davew 3/10/2019 6:34:54 PM (No. 502)
Its just a guess but if the plane was not loaded properly or the cargo was not secured and shifted aft on rotation it could cause a severe nose high ascent followed by a stall and a severe descent shortly after takeoff. This would seem very unlikely with a commercial aircraft like a 737 but has happened with smaller GA aircraft. Also, if the outside air pressure port was covered with dirt or other substance it might cause the pressure readings to be unreliable and disrupt an automatic flight control system although the crew would likely be hand flying the takeoff so this explanation is even less probable. Another real mystery at this point from the description.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
HPmatt 3/10/2019 7:12:01 PM (No. 493)
How many billions of US tax dollars are being squandered by the U.N....UN animal welfare worker for last 14 years..
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
PageTurner 3/10/2019 7:16:56 PM (No. 500)
Very sad. I wouldn´t ride that airline.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
LoneVoice 3/10/2019 7:40:43 PM (No. 490)
It sure sounds like a serious goof up at Boeing has cause at least 2 of their 737 max 8s to crash. These were brand new aircraft.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
bad-hair 3/10/2019 7:46:06 PM (No. 491)
This is 2nd crash on takeoff for this NEW airplane. I seem to recall similar circumstances in both.
I would hesitate to get on one until FAA investigates and provides solid evidence of cause.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Pepper Tree 3/10/2019 7:51:38 PM (No. 495)
Ethiopian Airlines, huh? There’s yer problem right there.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Maggie2u 3/10/2019 7:58:53 PM (No. 504)
Poster #6, according to a story at Fox news a few hours ago, this is the first accident in 9 years for this airline. Guess we´ll all have to wait to see what did happen
I have a real problem with pictures being taken and then published of people grieving for their family members who have just been killed. It is not right.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
earlybird 3/10/2019 8:04:31 PM (No. 499)
Some knees jerk too readily.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
earlybird 3/10/2019 8:07:19 PM (No. 496)
#8 was about those who comment base on name of airline company.
I flew all over China in CAAC planes (retired Aeroflot aircraft) that even the Lonely Planet people thought were for the suicidal. The only problem was the cancellation of flights for expected “weather” days ahead, which usually meant too few reservations to warrant a flight.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
earlybird 3/10/2019 8:10:29 PM (No. 501)
The headline is not truthful.
FTA:
´Somehow that work took her into the international sphere and for the last 15 years she has been working for international animal welfare organisations.
´That involves a lot of travelling around the world - although personally I never wanted her to be on a single one of those planes.
I´m an environmental campaigner myself, so partly it was because of the damage to the environment but also because it´s a dangerous occupation to be flying. Up until now she had been lucky.
He didn’t want her flying. Period. Full stop.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
columba 3/10/2019 8:35:19 PM (No. 494)
Reality check: we all die and we don´t pick the time. This life is temporary.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
ControlFreak 3/10/2019 9:10:00 PM (No. 492)
#7, these families, especially the American ones, don´t have a clue as to what´s in store for them. Media phone calls at all hours of the night, media trucks parked in front of their houses for days, journalists banging on their front door. Been there, done that, wish I could have punched every one of them. I still want to.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
ControlFreak 3/10/2019 9:14:07 PM (No. 503)
I forgot to add to my comment in #12--After all of that, the real fun begins--trying to get your loved one´s remains back to the US from a foreign country.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
DVC 3/11/2019 2:47:45 AM (No. 498)
#1, the airspeed indicator had been reported to be malfunctioning on several previous flights. Likely improperly or not repaired.
Chase a false airspeed and keep pulling up until you get the correct airspeed.....with bad data, and you are done. Look out the window in time, should get it, but normal climb has limited/no visibility of the horizon, so probably couldn´t tell he was too steep.
Many airlines require pilots to use the autopilot essentially all the time. If the autopilot had false airspeed indication, it could have been trying to slow down to climb speed, by raising the nose, chasing a false airspeed number.
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Was it necessary to show all of those body bags and up close photos of shoes someone might recognize?
RIP Condolences to the families.
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