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Forget Obamacare subsidies — it’s
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Posted By: Mercedes44, 10/12/2025 6:17:59 AM

Democrats shut down the government partly to force Republicans to extend COVID-era boosts in Obamacare subsidies that Dems once called “temporary” but now say are needed to keep the program viable. This reveals what a true disaster Obamacare has been, as its critics warned even as Dems were ramming it into law with not a single Republican vote in 2010. Blindly tossing fresh trillions down that hole is nuts: Time to fix it — or scrap it altogether. The 10-year cost of Dems’ current demand totals almost a half-trillion dollars, to benefit primarily insurers and wealthier Americans. Under the expiration that Democrats wrote into law, 1.6 million Americans (just 0.5% of the population)

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Reply 1 - Posted by: mifla 10/12/2025 6:42:42 AM (No. 2015651)
We were told that Obamacare was going to solve all the healthcare issues, so why do we have to keep throwing millions of dollars at it to keep it going?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 10/12/2025 6:48:13 AM (No. 2015654)
"if Democrats truly want to make health care better rather than simply resist anything Republican" But they don't. It is pointless to find compromise with dems because they sabotage everything by adding crazy "requirements" to it. Luckily, most efforts now are going into shrinking and removing things from government. And, here's a thought, if all Americans had a job, most would have health insurance through their employer. Maybe a simple plan would be to organize a basic medical plan available nationwide that would be available to small employers to offer to their workers and their families. Add some tax incentives for those employers to encourage them to support it. Work with insurers to make such plans available, and again, add some tax incentives to the insurers to reward them for cooperation in making the plans available. And, doesn't Medicaid cover a large swath of others who might not be able to work?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: chance_232 10/12/2025 7:33:33 AM (No. 2015670)
"Republicans barely failed to repeal much of it in 2017". Thank you John McPain. /S/ ObamaCare was never about providing Healthcare. It was another grift to make more voters dependent on government and more likely to vote Democrat to keep their benefits.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: anniebc 10/12/2025 8:24:55 AM (No. 2015703)
obamacare was/is about tyrannical big government in all our business, breaking the American people, and destroying the USA.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: padiva 10/12/2025 8:29:21 AM (No. 2015707)
Here's a few thoughts: Leave obamacare alone (to die a slow death) Meanwhile, create a better plan. People can chose: o'care (expensive, high deductables) OR a better plan (affordable) So, if O'care was trumpeted as better than wonderful, it will now be a stain on someone's legacy (other than an ugly concrete building).
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Strike3 10/12/2025 8:46:49 AM (No. 2015714)
Obamacare can not be fixed due to its core design, which is to force working people to pay for the healthcare of deadbeats and welfare parasites. Just pick a near-future date and KILL it. Move insurance back to the private markets and things will eventually balance out. Medical care and Insurance have become extremely bloated in cost BECAUSE of communist Obamacare, as we knew it would. This monster was forced upon us by the Supreme Court and we will never forget that. Just as it was with massive illegal immigration, Obamacare's primary focus was to create democrat votes. I am not completely heartless but the condition of having those not paying one cent for receiving premium healthcare while productive working people can only afford a bare minimum is criminal.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: jimincalif 10/12/2025 8:50:07 AM (No. 2015715)
Like everything else the left supports, they hide the truth by muddling their language. They keep harping about how the COST of health insurance will increase without the subsidies. But this is false. The cost is the cost. All the subsidies do is hide this actual cost from the buyer and shift much of it to taxpayers. As even the WaPo has now admitted, the cost of O’care is unsustainable, subsidies don’t change this, in fact they allow it to perpetuate, until the public debt bomb explodes, of course.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: czechlist 10/12/2025 10:17:33 AM (No. 2015741)
#6 and let us not forget that pos john mcstain. He could have ended the 0's catastrophe but he dramatically waited until his was the deciding vote and then voted in favor of its survival. Why? To spite DJT. I cannot forgive Trump for allowiing mcstain's grandiose state funeral. Does the USNA keep a guard at mcstain's grave to prevent frequent urination?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: clayusmcret 10/12/2025 10:46:49 AM (No. 2015750)
Democrats desperately need the additional money pumped into obamacare. They knew, when they forced it through, beyond a shadow of a doubt that obamacare was destined to fail without extensive manipulation. They counted on the republicans being trapped between letting it fail and taking the blame for letting it fail, or pumping in ever increasing amounts of money to keep it afloat. Like Britain's healthcare costing 45% of the nation's budget, obamacare will eventually outgrow any capability to sustain it and the government, as dems planned, will be forced to go to government run/owned universal healthcare. This was all by design. That illegal aliens became the face of their argument was just luck on their part. Problem is, the rest of America says no way.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: whyyeseyec 10/12/2025 11:20:43 AM (No. 2015768)
Back in Obama's 2nd term, the GOP had full control of Congress during his last two years. The House and Senate passed a bill repealing Obamacare altogether, knowing full well Obama would veto, which he did. The GOP used that as a talking point to keep control of Congress after the 2016 election. Fast fwd to Trump's 1st term, the GOP once again, had all the power. The House passed a bill to repeal, it went to the Senate, whereby the vote was so close, it came down to one vote - that being Trump hater John McCain. What are the odds the deciding vote would be McCain - it was if it was planned out ahead of time. As you would expect, McCain voted no, and as a result, we are forever stuck with this Obamination. The GOP never wanted, and never will repeal the Unaffordable Care Act.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: DVC 10/12/2025 11:38:40 AM (No. 2015774)
END Obamacare. Clarice quoted a perfect source on the cruel joke that far too many people have found their "health care insurance plan" to be. "Stories abound of individuals with "coverage" who couldn't afford the thousands of dollars in out-of-pocket costs required to actually see a doctor. The high-deductible plans were a cruel joke, providing only the illusion of security." I saw this when it looked like we would be forced into an Obamacare plan. We avoided that, just barely, but these plans had $5,000 to $7,500 deductibles before the plan would pay for anything at all beyond three or four doc visits per year. Too many people are living so close to the financial edge that given the choice between coming up with $5,000 to $7,500 in cash or getting no health care at all.....they got NO HEALTH CARE AT ALL". They were forced to go the the Emergency Rooms and wait hours like all the rest of the charity cases....and drain the coffers of the hospitals.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Starboard_side 10/12/2025 12:09:51 PM (No. 2015779)
#3, you forgot the real reason, the massive number of government workers who would likely vote Democrat too. They need to set up a triage system so when people show up at the emergency room for care (they can't be legally denied) those with common ailments are sent to a separate urgent care type facility which will be lower cost than the emergency room (most expensive).
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Reply 13 - Posted by: chagrined 10/12/2025 12:56:05 PM (No. 2015795)
No mend. . .END!
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Reply 14 - Posted by: crashnburn 10/12/2025 1:08:11 PM (No. 2015799)
I did keep my plan when ObamaScare came about, but my insurance changed. Premiums went up, deductibles went up, and instead of one of us maxing out our deductible, before insurance kicked in, both our deductibles had to be maxed out before insurance would kick in. ObamaScare is beyond mending. It must be completely repealed and let the open market compete again. I'm now on MediScare, so I don't have a dog in the fight, except to get the government out of controlling 1/6th of the economy (health care). And no government sponsored health care plan for small businesses. Too much like a camel's nose under a tent.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: danu 10/12/2025 9:27:52 PM (No. 2015870)
as we say in the trades, whilst chit chatting about the obummeroids' long lists of theft, graft, jackazzry: au revoir gophair. i cannot comprehend why pdt would want to keep that corpse on life support. start over, better.
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