Trump was not informed about Ukraine attack
which destroyed huge fleet of Russian
planes, reports claims
Independent (UK),
by
Isabel Keane
Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought,
6/1/2025 9:03:28 PM
Donald Trump was not given a heads-up about Ukraine’s unprecedented drone strikes that took out a huge fleet of Russian planes on Sunday, according to reports.
Ukraine’s “large-scale” drone attack launched deep into Russian territory wiped out 40 military bombers and targeted five bases, Ukrainian security sources told CBS News.
The attack took over a year and a half to plan and was personally supervised by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, the sources added.
Ukrainian officials did not give the Trump administration advance notice of the attack, both Ukrainian and U.S. officials told Axios.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Dreadnought 6/1/2025 9:04:04 PM (No. 1958482)
What worked in the FSU would work here and at and around America's strategic bases anywhere in the world. There is no current effective defense against this line of attack. Go-teams, M4s and guard dogs are not effective with this.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
DVC 6/1/2025 9:05:30 PM (No. 1958484)
And so?
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Scribelus 6/1/2025 9:06:39 PM (No. 1958485)
As for not informing the Trump ‚administration‘, loose lips sink ships.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Msquared112 6/1/2025 9:12:36 PM (No. 1958491)
I can just hear Trump talking to Z: “I’ve told you what I think. Now it’s your turn to sh i t e of get off the pot. Don’t tell me about it. Just do it.”
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
3XALADY 6/1/2025 9:19:29 PM (No. 1958493)
I hope PDJT just walks away from the little green man and lets him and his EU friends take care of anything that happens. We should not be involved.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
earlybird 6/1/2025 9:39:39 PM (No. 1958500)
I believe that. Z thinks he's a real player...
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
seamusm 6/1/2025 9:42:05 PM (No. 1958501)
Thank God Trump didn't have advance knowledge, because Trump had known ahead of time, Putin could well have held the US complicit.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
DVC 6/1/2025 10:06:42 PM (No. 1958508)
Re :6, it's clear that he has proven that he is, regardless of the Russian propaganda.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Alecto2 6/1/2025 10:23:58 PM (No. 1958519)
#8 He's just a puppet dancing at the end of Nato's strings. Such a great leader that 8 million Ukrainians flee the country and he's burnt his way through what, three armies or is it four? Press gang is now the name of the game. The ridiculous claims of all the destroyed aircraft will be shown to be more puffery to "strengthen" Ukraine's lamentable negotiating position for Istanbul.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
DVC 6/1/2025 11:26:15 PM (No. 1958533)
Hogwash is now considered facts, apparently.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
JimBob 6/2/2025 12:02:41 AM (No. 1958541)
The 'rub' of Z telling President Trump beforehand is that he would also be telling a BUNCH of American bureaucrats and flunkies. If any one of them had a General Mark Milley -"I told my ChiCom counterpart that I would warn him if Trump ordered an attack"-attitude, or if the Russians got wind via a penetration of American 'secure' communications and data systems, the Russians would have been informed, the operation squashed, Putin would accuse Trump -rightly- of double-dealing, and the people who drove the trucks thousands of miles into Russia would have been arrested and shot as spies.
Z was right in this case to keep this 'close to the vest'.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
LadyHen 6/2/2025 12:21:03 AM (No. 1958550)
That some here want to get us involved in this makes me wonder if they are bought and paid for.. maybe by China who has the most to gain from the destruction of America. American blood, why would any real American want that spilled for Ukraine?
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Strike3 6/2/2025 7:05:02 AM (No. 1958591)
It took some excellent photography by satellites or drones to locate those planes. Does Ukraine have that sophisticated capability now? We have seen pictures of drone factories building some very basic short range drones than they use to take out tanks.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
philsner 6/2/2025 7:29:38 AM (No. 1958600)
Therefore Kamala is our defacto president, and Joe Biden is as healthy as a teenager..
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Alecto2 6/2/2025 7:33:19 AM (No. 1958603)
Maybe #12 and/or, not all of the Fuehrer's Nazis fled to South America. Many of them were taken in by the Allies and their descendants are desperately trying to fulfill their ancestors' dreams of destroying the Russians.
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America is vulnerable to this kind of attack, but its bombers fleet is not. Generally speaking, they are in hardened bunkers and not sitting out.
They are also geographically dispersed, including places like Guam and the Indian Ocean. Hard to drive a truck there.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Venturer 6/2/2025 8:05:21 AM (No. 1958628)
Zelensky and his military seem to have planned a very successful attack on the Russian bear.
Have they planned for the counter-attack that is coming?
Have they planned for the Russian response.
More than likely it is the Ukraine civilian that will pay the bill for this.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Muguy 6/2/2025 9:07:07 AM (No. 1958660)
Zelensky wants WAR. Putin wants a warm water port. When will his money run out and Putin gets his warm water port anyway?
Obviously, the lives of his Ukrainian countryment men little to nothing while he pridefully lives in celebrity.
How good is any deal for rare earth minerals if his country falls?
What promises are we entangling our nation into protecting his fame and fortune to sustain a money laundering operation?
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
RuckusTom 6/2/2025 9:40:56 AM (No. 1958676)
We'll know soon enough if this starts WWIII. Don't be surprised to turn on the news in the near future and find out that Ukraine has been turned into a glass parking lot. If that happens, what then?
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Kate318 6/2/2025 9:43:03 AM (No. 1958679)
Lindsey F*****g Graham.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
bighambone 6/2/2025 9:49:08 AM (No. 1958685)
What benefit would it give the USA or Trump to admit that Trump had prior knowledge or warning of such an attack inside Russia?
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Zigrid 6/2/2025 9:58:11 AM (No. 1958689)
Very interesting play by Ukraine ...rather provocative...with the help of Europe Z has continued the war for another year...and of course when Europe runs out of courage...they'll fall back on the Americans....which they have always done....I'm not a wartime strategist ...so I haven't a clue as to why Z took this approach...it reminds me of an ole Tom and Jerry cartoon....one character was always getting hit in the head and the other laughing....
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
planetgeo 6/2/2025 10:15:19 AM (No. 1958701)
IF true, this is a very dangerous escalation, and likely calculated coldly to provoke an even bigger response from Putin in order to draw the U.S into this in a big way. Despite how brutal and savage this may look when Putin launches his response, we must continue to limit our involvement.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Toodles3956 6/2/2025 10:18:48 AM (No. 1958703)
I can't figure out how Ukraine can pull this off. If they can do that why don't they take out wherever Putin hangs his hat?
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
JimBob 6/2/2025 10:52:31 AM (No. 1958721)
#16, the Russian Belaya airbase is easy to find as it is 'pinned' on Google Maps, and the standard Google Maps imagery- the free version, not the subscription version- clearly shows 16 airplanes parked wingtip-to-wingtip, with 11 more parked on individual pads, 3 more scattered about, and gives a precise lat-long for each one. I understand that this data is a year or two old, but -some of you L-Dotters can inform me- I understand that a 'paid' Google Maps subscription has images that are much more recent. So there's locating the airplanes. Perhaps the Ukrainians used Starlink to communicate with the drones. If this was the method they used, they could have parked the trucks with the drones near the airbase, all the personnel could get back to Ukraine, then the drones could have been activated. Commercially available imagery and communication, nothing supplied by the US/EU/NATO military.
I understand that right now half -or more- of our fleet of 20 very expensive B2 bombers are in Diego Garcia. The Google Maps imagery shows four shelters -the shape appears that they are designed to house B2 flying wing type aircraft- that appear to be heavy-duty fabric, not 'hardened bunkers'. Again this imagery is a year or two old. A hostile player could put similar drones on a small ship and bring it within a couple miles of the airbase.
The regular B2 base at Whiteman AFB has 14 shelters of similar shape that appear designed to house the B2 flying wing aircraft. These shelters appear to have flat roofs with air conditioning units on the roofs. How 'hard' they are is unknown.
At Barksdale AFB, 25 B52'a are clearly visible parked on the concrete. There are a few big hangars, but not nearly enough for all the planes.
At Minot AFB, 15 B52's are clearly visible parked wingtip-to-wingtip on the concrete.
I found all this in just a minute or two on Google Maps.
So much for the airplanes housed in hardened bunkers.
Not wanting to be contrary, but the airplanes are simply not in hardened bunkers.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
nerdowell 6/2/2025 11:13:12 AM (No. 1958735)
Not Ukraine, the EU sent the drones.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
NotaBene 6/2/2025 11:42:06 AM (No. 1958764)
I am relieved that the CIA AMD MI6were not involved.
S/off
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Graham and Leventhal knew about it, I'm betting!
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