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Trump’s Proposal Endorses Putin’s
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Posted By: DVC, 5/13/2025 1:04:18 PM

In his latest proposal to end the war in Ukraine, former President Donald Trump reportedly offered Vladimir Putin a dangerous concession: de jure recognition of Russia’s annexation of Crimea. The proposal appears to accept the idea that Crimea was once part of Russia and that returning it to Russia would restore historical justice. This logic is not just politically reckless, it is historically and legally indefensible. It echoes the imperial narrative Putin himself has long advanced: that modern Russia is the rightful heir to the entire Russian Empire[snip] Crimea was never part of Russia, and the Russian Federation is not a successor to the entire Russian Empire.

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Crimea was never 'historically Russian' and neither was Ukraine. Putin is a violent sociopath with megalomaniacal ambitions, and his "history" is fake. He's easily as dangerous as the last German dictator of the 1930s with similar fantasies of "liebensraum" and history Germany.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Alecto2 5/13/2025 2:19:21 PM (No. 1949285)
More NATO/EU clap trap/psyops posing as expert research. We all heard the verbal vomit about Russia is collapsing, using microchips from washing machines, army's collapsing/destroyed, Putin is ill/dying etc. etc. Versus, if we don't stop him now, he'll sweep across Europe and reestablish a Soviet gulag whatever. What a load of BS. Crimea voted 97% in favor of joining the Russian Federation with 83% turnout. The same would have happened in the Donbas had the west not lied about the Minsk agreements. I'm surprised Putin would even believe more western promises.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: czechlist 5/13/2025 2:29:43 PM (No. 1949290)
People should stop listening to all of the propaganda from all sides and read the history of that region and the resulting demographics.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: jntsrgn 5/13/2025 3:00:35 PM (No. 1949297)
Crimea is gone. Get over it. Putin is going to get his Black Sea access. Best get over that too.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Quigley 5/13/2025 3:04:51 PM (No. 1949298)
Well, too bad obumbum and bidet screwed the pooch. How nice it would be to have serious, competent leaders in all periods of time. So Putin is a megalomaniacal leader and Trump is "literally Hitler." If putin is so bad, why have the europeans gone to sleep and abdicated leadership? Do all the immigrants in europe dislike putin, or is it just the "racist white europeans" who dislike him? And how much did the bidet family loot from Ukraine and why wasn't it disclosed; and what was the Ukrainian involvement in the Trump impeachments? My point and my opinion is, that I see no merit in the Ukrainians or the Europeans and they've really annoyed me with all their holier than thou BS. So: if we make a mistake in settling this war and it becomes very clear to you that it's a mistake, then the europeans and the central eastern europeans can fix it. Goodbye. We've got things to do elsewhere.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Ruhn 5/13/2025 3:04:57 PM (No. 1949299)
Unsound premise in the article to start with: "Well, X was historically there first so the presence of Y there now is illegitimate." The arc of history regarding emerging civilizations, countries, nations, and empires relative to existing ones rejects that premise time after time. The weaker group will always lose. The real question is not why Putin is encroaching on Ukraine. The real question is why has NATO encroached further east within Russia's traditional sphere of influence where it was never meant to go. The Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 (along with the Warsaw Pact). NATO's reason for being ceased to exist but NATO continued on as a self-licking ice cream cone ever since. Most of the former Warsaw Pact countries are now in the Alliance. It's no wonder that Russia considers NATO membership of Ukraine a red line. Putin is no angel in this affair. However, neither is Zelensky, NATO, Washington power brokers, and the EU with their meddling in Ukraine that have contributed to a never-ending war that may lead to nuclear confrontation.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Starboard_side 5/13/2025 3:08:41 PM (No. 1949300)
Can't seem to recall the same angst when they took it during Obama years. Crimea is not going to be returned to the Ukraine any time soon, if ever, or until the people there decide they don't want to be annexed. Period. Remember, a whole bunch of countries weren't actually part of Russia before but became part of the Soviet Union after WW2, and that changed over time.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: earlybird 5/13/2025 3:19:55 PM (No. 1949305)
When did he become former President Donald Trump ?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: earlybird 5/13/2025 4:01:52 PM (No. 1949315)
https://www.hoover.org/profiles/yuri-yarim-agaev
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Midnight Rambler 5/13/2025 4:14:50 PM (No. 1949317)
#3 Agree
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Reply 10 - Posted by: stablemoney 5/13/2025 5:18:19 PM (No. 1949341)
Russia has lost 700, 000 soldiers, has 20% interest rates, has a population of 125 million, and an economy that produces nothing but war material. Ukraine has a population of 45 million, has lost a similar number of soldiers, and the country in the eastern portion has been reduced to rubble. There are no winners. The U.S. has spent $360 Billion to achieve nothing, and would need to spend another $360 Billion, which would only get them to the same place they are in now. I don't think anybody has a strong hand to play.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: earlybird 5/13/2025 6:12:37 PM (No. 1949358)
Zelenskyy has gotten rich. So has the Biden Crime Family.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: aasilver 5/13/2025 6:27:13 PM (No. 1949360)
From Wikipedia: Ukraine gained independence in 1991 as the Soviet Union dissolved and declared itself neutral.[10] A new constitution was adopted in 1996 as the country transitioned to a free market liberal democracy amid endemic corruption and a legacy of state control.[11] The Orange Revolution of 2004–2005 ushered electoral and constitutional reforms. Resurgent political crises prompted a series of mass demonstrations in 2014 known as the Euromaidan, leading to a revolution, at the end of which Russia unilaterally occupied and annexed Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula, and pro-Russian unrest culminated in a war in Donbas with Russian-backed separatists and Russia. Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022 Ukraine was never an independent country until 1991. Crimea and Donbas was always part of the Russian Empire since the 17th century. Look it up.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 5/13/2025 6:56:05 PM (No. 1949367)
Yuri, so you must have written your piece before November 5, 2024 then? It seems you forgot who sits at the Resolute Desk these days, pal.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Californian 5/13/2025 8:33:02 PM (No. 1949396)
Russia, Ukraine, who cares? This is like twins fighting over a toy. It looks the same no matter which one has it. Big corrupt ugly country taking land from small equally corrupt and ugly country. Not my problem. No strategic value there.
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