Germany's once-mighty car industry is
in crisis. What will it take to fix it?
BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation),
by
Theo Leggett
Original Article
Posted By: snakeoil,
2/11/2025 10:31:47 PM
For decades, car-making has been the jewel in Germany's industrial crown, a powerful symbol of the country's famous post-war economic miracle. Its "Big Three" brands, Volkswagen, Mercedes-Benz, and BMW, have long been praised for their performance, innovation and precision engineering. But today, the German motor industry is struggling. How can it get back on the road to recovery? When you arrive by train in Wolfsburg, Lower Saxony, the first thing you see is the Volkswagen factory. Its huge facade, emblazoned with a giant VW logo and flanked by four tall chimneys, dominates one bank of the canal that runs through the city.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
DVC 2/11/2025 11:00:51 PM (No. 1894429)
Green energy insanity is destroying all of German industry.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
sw penn 2/11/2025 11:05:20 PM (No. 1894430)
No big secret here...
What killed it?
Loss of cheap energy.
What will fix it?
Restore cheap energy...
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
stablemoney 2/11/2025 11:09:53 PM (No. 1894431)
Make ICE cars instead of EV's that nobody is buying. Restart electric generation. No country is going to go anywhere without energy.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Vaquero45 2/11/2025 11:40:23 PM (No. 1894442)
Boo-frekin’-hoo. They kept electing socialist nutcases who shut down their nuclear power plants and coal-fired generators, and they all went “green” while relying on America to keep the Russians off of their arses. They did this to themselves.
And while I’m talking about it.... I had a VW “bug” back in the 60’s. It was the worst car I ever owned. I wouldn’t buy another VW if they had a 2-for-1 sale.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
snakeoil 2/12/2025 12:32:29 AM (No. 1894458)
#4, Everyone has had a worst car they ever owned. Mine was a 79 Ford Mustang. Every time I filled up with gas I had to put a quart of oil in. Finally it got to the point that it burned 2 quarts of oil on every tank of gas. Took it to a Ford dealer who worked on it for a week. It went back to burning only one quart of oil for every tank of gas. Learned my lesson and now drive a Subaru.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
JimBob 2/12/2025 1:27:37 AM (No. 1894472)
Back in the early '60's, VW gained popularity by being the least expensive car available to get you where you wanted to go. By the early '70's, Nissan and Toyota took that part of the market, and VW moved to this "Made in the Black Forest by Elves" BS, claiming superior quality, but the numbers of their cars on the road sure went down.
The other German brands, BMW/Mercedes etc. sold "Status".....
"LOOK AT ME!
I can Afford to pay a Ridiculous Price for this Car!.... and the Ridiculous Prices to FIX it!"
"LOOK AT ME!"
I worked on a good number of these cars, and what I saw 'under the hood' didn't match their advertising.
Meantime, their prices went up..... and up.... and up.... and up.
Kind of like women wearing diamonds.... some are willing to pay, as long as it's in style.
Today, it looks to me like the Koreans have captured the low-cost end of the market, and their cars seem to go a long way for a minimum cost.
.... and the Chinese apparently are catching up, or have caught up, but at a much lower cost (slave labor and government subsidies can sure drive down the showroom price!)
The Germans, with their high 'green' energy costs and high union labor costs, are in a pickle.
I do not know how they're going to get out of it.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
jeffkinnh 2/12/2025 6:48:29 AM (No. 1894534)
Last year I bought a new Audi. I love the car. If I wanted to, this year, I could not buy the latest version. Why? Because Audi is committed to EVs and they don't make that ICE model any longer. I won't do business with them again.
The whole article reeks of "We are doing exactly the right things but it's harder than we expected. There is not the slightest whiff of "EVs were a mistake!".
The reality is, EVs don't meet customer needs and probably never will. A simple example. To tank up an ICE vehicle, it takes 5 minutes. To top off an EV charge, over an hour. And the "full" ICE usually has a greater range than a "full EV". If you are on a long day trip it means you might have to top off twice, 2 ADDITIONAL HOURS! Who thinks this is a good thing?
As everyone now should know, EVs come with a raft of additional problems,many unsolvable.
So, with this unattractive package, WHY would we choose to buy an EV? The "existential threat of global warming. We have to save the planet.
But, whoa up. If you haven't been paying attention lately, the evidence for warming being a huge threat or even a threat at all has been falling apart. It has been whispered that even if we do the severe things prescribed for us, IT WON'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
So EVs are NOT saving anything. They are feel good pablum for the gullible. Car makers are supposed to be realistic scientists. THEY should know this is bunk. Germany is in more trouble because they are more subject to government controls to pursue EVs. They are not a consumer driven market. It's killing the industry and the country.
EVs might be a good consumer choice in some situations, but NOT an imperative.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 2/12/2025 7:16:05 AM (No. 1894549)
The solution is to get the government out of the car design business.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
coldoc 2/12/2025 7:20:11 AM (No. 1894551)
You dont have to have 3 can buses and 50 electronic "modules" in every car. A mouse eats one wire (they love the wire insulation) and your 100k mercedes is off to the dealer for a new $10k wiring harness
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
philsner 2/12/2025 7:40:48 AM (No. 1894562)
Leave it to the liberal media to wonder what it takes to sell cars. Call Captain Obvious. He has the simple answer: Manufacture products that people want to buy. Duh.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
skacmar 2/12/2025 7:46:59 AM (No. 1894570)
German cars used to be known for superior engineering and dependability. Today they are known for being expensive and having a lot of electronic glitches. One electronic problem can turn your expensive BMW, Mercedes, or VW into a useless chunk of steel on the side of the road waiting to be towed to the dealer for an expensive repair.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Scrubber 2/12/2025 7:48:17 AM (No. 1894571)
I am NOT a Luddite, but you couldn’t give me a European car. I have a 2018 Toyota with 145,000 miles, with not one single repair. No Euro car can say that.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Mcscow sailor 2/12/2025 8:39:55 AM (No. 1894623)
Contrast the 9 workers at just one station in the photo of the srticle to this inside a Tesla plant, showing zero workers. If Tesla style auto assembly is the future, the labor-rich assembly plants of Germany are history. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=photo%20inside%20tesla%20plant&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/tesla-fremont-factory08.jpg&t=ipad
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
downnout 2/12/2025 8:45:23 AM (No. 1894630)
About six months after we bought a German SUV we took it to the dealer for scheduled maintenance and discovered squirrels had helped themselves to the sound-muffling insulation that lined the underside of the hood. The dealer wanted $900 to replace it. We said no thank you. The vehicle is now 13 years old with 42,000 miles on it.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
hurricanegirl 2/12/2025 9:30:11 AM (No. 1894669)
Put windmills and solar panels on them--that'll make 'em sell! Maybe, just maybe, Euroweanies, it's not the cars that are the problem but your idiotic, extremely expensive green agenda!
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
mythman 2/12/2025 9:45:35 AM (No. 1894682)
The elephant in the room is unmentioned by the BBC: People don't want EV's, the production of which is mandated by the EU. Furthermore, quality in all these manufacturers' vehicles has fallen
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
JHHolliday 2/12/2025 9:49:05 AM (No. 1894687)
EVs certainly have their place. I have one. It's called a golf cart and has an excellent range of almost 36 holes. It also has lead acid batteries that won't burn a hole to China while the fire department tries to put it out. All electric technology has decades to go before they will be as practical as ICE cars. The EV industry is in dire peril until that happens. It reminds me of the old joke about the CEO of the dog food company asking his sales force why their new attractively priced, and nutritious dog food wasn't selling. The answer from one of their long-time employees was "Because the &%^# dogs don't like it"! This applies to current new car buyers also.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Hazymac 2/12/2025 10:37:58 AM (No. 1894725)
Any countries that jumped on the Green bandwagon are ruing the day they did that. Several years ago Spain had to scale way back; Germany is now learning the hard way. "Green" is not only a ruinously expensive error--in totality, it doesn't even help the environment. Quite the opposite. Its purpose is to shuffle large amounts of lucre to the politically favored. It all needs to end before it kills us economically. For nothing. Gore and Kerry ought to be transported in their private jets to Barrow, Alaska, dressed in Speedos, and left on an ice floe in the Arctic Ocean. Then come the polar bears.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
jdano 2/12/2025 10:47:51 AM (No. 1894735)
Less tech. Back to basics. Most reliable car I ever had was a 1969 Bug.
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